exmachina64
Banned
That's on the condition that he does, obviously. If he gets killed, we'll obviously find out what his role was and be able to speculate what he did from there.
Ask better questions.
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Rejected Pixar Movie [Mafia] | Won't Someone Think of the Children?
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That's on the condition that he does, obviously. If he gets killed, we'll obviously find out what his role was and be able to speculate what he did from there.
Ask better questions.
exmachina64
Banned
What do you actually know in a game of Mafia outside of when someone dies?
Most of your posts are fluff.
exmachina64
Banned
I'm guessing the latter.
nice and solid list Exmachina.
Lets clear the air, since you pretty much showed that you are invested in the game
UNVOTE
I'm being dense about dangling information? Sure, you can reveal stuff later. Hopefully no one is dumb enough to turbo before then like these trigger-happy Ouro voters. I'm just expecting that we have people like Pop and Gorlak who won't have anything to bring up and will just be sitting here with our thumbs up our ass for the next 24 hours.
ex - nothing wrong with fluff posts if there's content to go along with it. this is a game after all.
Tell me then. What is the difference here:
- Kawl claims doctor. Kawl does not reveal who he protected. Kawl dies.
- Kawl claims doctor. Kawl reveals his targets. Kawl dies.
(Kawl I'm not using this post to push you any more so much as explaining to ex his "logic.")
exmachina64
Banned
Assuming Kawl is revealed to be the doctor:
In scenario A, we don't know who Kawl protected.
In scenario B, we can reasonably assume Kawl did protect those people. We can speculate as to why he protected those people, we can speculate why they were targeted, etc.
Scenario A: Kawl was doctor, great.
Scenario B: Ah, maybe Kawl prevented Ouro's death on Night 2.
ok, good, you understand the difference
exmachina64
Banned
I'm glad I could exceed your low expectations.
Ouro you consistently wanted PR to come forward and reveal themselves today. You pushed for it insistently. Your reasoning was the post exmachina quoted. You NEEDED all the PRs to reveal your scum melon theory. Something that was surely in the heads of others as well.
Why exactly did you need to know who is a power role and what they did? There definitely was no need to know any of this before posting your theory. You disguised a simple theory as something ground breaking, if not game winning, yet all you did was to get Kawl to claim. And no one bats an eye about it...
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Next up you shuffle your suspect list because I find you suspicious? OMGUS all the way Ouro?
Let's focus on your read of me
Early D1 Sorian asks you if you rather would vote me or Pop.
Somewhat at the end of D1
D3 after melon pushed and pushed to get an opinion from him about me:
A few hours later:
Suddenly I'm the top scum while your list "hasn't really changed". Well, that's odd. Surely Ouro has a good reason - let's take a look at it:
While the first part of the second quote is true, I also did it at the start of this game, the second part is wrong. I laid down my reasoning against you and surely did not joke about it - you however didn't tune out, you paint me as scum the moment I voice suspicion against you.
Why do you think I'm scum? Anything would have to lie within my last 15 posts or so because you clearly stated something else just a few hours earlier.
Why exactly did you need to know who is a power role and what they did? There definitely was no need to know any of this before posting your theory. You disguised a simple theory as something ground breaking, if not game winning, yet all you did was to get Kawl to claim. And no one bats an eye about it...
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Next up you shuffle your suspect list because I find you suspicious? OMGUS all the way Ouro?
Let's focus on your read of me
Early D1 Sorian asks you if you rather would vote me or Pop.
Somewhat at the end of D1
Start of D2:
D3 after melon pushed and pushed to get an opinion from him about me:
A few hours later:
Suddenly I'm the top scum while your list "hasn't really changed". Well, that's odd. Surely Ouro has a good reason - let's take a look at it:
While the first part of the second quote is true, I also did it at the start of this game, the second part is wrong. I laid down my reasoning against you and surely did not joke about it - you however didn't tune out, you paint me as scum the moment I voice suspicion against you.
Why do you think I'm scum? Anything would have to lie within my last 15 posts or so because you clearly stated something else just a few hours earlier.
I explained why I was pushing for PRs:
1. It would be nice to potentially confirm a townie by knowing who was protected, or if it was a roleblocker, a possible scum
2. At this point we have possibly 3 PRs. We have 3 days to mislynch (assuming one more scum). We have plenty of time.
As for my reads, wow, it's almost as if as the game progresses and people post, my reads might be affected. Strange concept, I know.
Again, unless Kawl or Melon are playing us, the last scum is here:
Gorlak
Exmachina
Pop
Kyan
I've thought it over about nin, and I'm pretty sure he is town barring a Godfather. If melon is a cop, then she found him to be town (again, unless GF). If melon is lying about being a cop and is in fact scum, town is really the only thing to pick this early on, and I'm operating under the assumption that there is only one scum remaining.
1. It would be nice to potentially confirm a townie by knowing who was protected, or if it was a roleblocker, a possible scum
2. At this point we have possibly 3 PRs. We have 3 days to mislynch (assuming one more scum). We have plenty of time.
As for my reads, wow, it's almost as if as the game progresses and people post, my reads might be affected. Strange concept, I know.
Again, unless Kawl or Melon are playing us, the last scum is here:
Gorlak
Exmachina
Pop
Kyan
I've thought it over about nin, and I'm pretty sure he is town barring a Godfather. If melon is a cop, then she found him to be town (again, unless GF). If melon is lying about being a cop and is in fact scum, town is really the only thing to pick this early on, and I'm operating under the assumption that there is only one scum remaining.
exmachina64
Banned
Technically, Tim could be using a sanity Effect and Melon's alignment reads could be random.
god i hope not.
No, no. You went from "not scum reading" to more likely to be scum than pop and kyan because I ask questions in the last 20 hours. That's what I showed in my last post. And I want you to be more explicit what exactly caused this change. You don't get to wriggle yourself out of this play easily.
I went back and read the thread. That's pretty much it. It was less of a "you moved up" so much that the others "moved down."
so you still don't scum read me, but the others are even less scummy. lol, k, welcome back ouro
The only reason I scum read you right now really is because you're one of the claimed ordinaries and that's where I think scum is right now, and that I think you're mostly asking lots and lots of questions to blend in.
Pop I think has been contributing a decent amount (until the past 24 hours or whenever his last post was), and Kyan...well...who the fuck knows.
You and exmachina are the ones driving the discussion my way so while I think one of you has to be town, the other isn't.
Again, assuming melon isn't playing us for fools
exmachina64
Banned
The only reason I scum read you right now really is because you're one of the claimed ordinaries and that's where I think scum is right now, and that I think you're mostly asking lots and lots of questions to blend in.
Pop I think has been contributing a decent amount (until the past 24 hours or whenever his last post was), and Kyan...well...who the fuck knows.
You and exmachina are the ones driving the discussion my way so while I think one of you has to be town, the other isn't.
Again, assuming melon isn't playing us for fools
And what if town wastes two of its mislynches on us?
I'm hoping by then we have more information from the PRs remaining as well as simply playing the game
Gorlak:
exmachina64:
L_P's very first post:
Later in the day:
First reads list from exmachina:
Pop-o-matic:
Pop posts this which I have no idea what it means.
Kyanrute:
Other notes:
exmachina has done a complete 180 on me from D1.
tl;dr:
Gorlak - Indifferent of LP on D1, aggressive D2
exmachina - called out by LP several times, largely ignores LP until he decides to jump on the vote wagon on D2
Pop - Not sure what to think here. Not much interaction and neither seems to really be addressing the other directly
Kyan - slight defense of LP regarding Stan's kill, but not sure if it's relevant or not
exmachina64:
L_P's very first post:
Later in the day:
First reads list from exmachina:
Pop-o-matic:
Pop posts this which I have no idea what it means.
Kyanrute:
Other notes:
exmachina has done a complete 180 on me from D1.
tl;dr:
Gorlak - Indifferent of LP on D1, aggressive D2
exmachina - called out by LP several times, largely ignores LP until he decides to jump on the vote wagon on D2
Pop - Not sure what to think here. Not much interaction and neither seems to really be addressing the other directly
Kyan - slight defense of LP regarding Stan's kill, but not sure if it's relevant or not
exmachina64
Banned
Not going to bother with trying to go back and properly nest those quotes.
LP voted for me because I was an easy target and I voted for Nin because he seemed suspicious to me. We've gone back and forth over this, for the time being, I accept Nin as town yet here you are trying to drum up bullshit.
On D1, I liked that you were an active player because I had just come from a relatively inactive game. Gradually, my opinion of you soured from when I thought you were a simply an active, aggressive town player.
I didn't jump on a vote wagon on D2, I decided to follow the recommendation of someone who most in the game, notably excluding you, think is a town PR. Surprise, Melon was right! You're really trying to work me into your bullshit theory about Melon being scum and killing LP for some reason?
Suddenly, I'm the focus of your scum conspiracy theory and your other suspects have fallen away.
Are you purposefully being dense? That long-ass post I made has nothing to do with that theory. I've largely thrown that to the wayside, but I'll still maintain a little bit of healthy skepticism about melon in the meantime.
The past was literally just the interactions between the four other vanilla townies and LP. I assume if you only read 25% of it then I guess you could say it was focused on you. The other notes were just something I noticed as I was going through it all.
exmachina64
Banned
You're right. I even went back and edited in the word "melonrabbit" thirty times into that post to show that you're correct. Sorry, Tim!
So please explain this. His vote happened 3 posts into the day. Three. Tres.
Ten minutes after the game started.
That's called an RNG vote, or a prod vote, etc.
I'm curious what you did during those ten minutes that placed a target on your back, and why can't I find that post(s)?
exmachina64
Banned
Yes, I'm referring to his RNG/prod vote.
Sorry if my wording was too inaccurate for you, I'm sure you'd be as charitable.
exmachina64
Banned
melonrabbit
Member
Taking some finals will catch up in a couple hours with some thoughts.
exmachina64
Banned
Can Pop, Kyan and Nin get in here? They've been quiet.
kyan and nin are probably asleep
exmachina64
Banned
Ah, I wasn't aware of their time zones.
melonrabbit
Member
I see the current discussion hasn't really moved since last I checked.
In agreement, that I want to hear from Pop before anything else.
In agreement, that I want to hear from Pop before anything else.
Nah, we shouldn't forget the last claimed vanilla, right?
Ourobolus
D1
That's everything... No other direct interaction between these two. Than we have Ouro something maybe from LP
and finally this:
D2 no interaction
melon asks LP what he did
Ouro responds with an "uhh"?
LP chimes in and doesn't react to melon
30 minutes later
The other connection between LP and Ouro is the push against Stan as I already brought up:
Ouro fighting Stan because his vote was safe af. And look at how serious Ouro was about this:
Along the way LP joins the Stan wagon and jumps off at 392 with that weird unvote quote.
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I've seen very blatant scum play lately. Quite unlike as Kawl, I tend to see the above as a red flag.
Ouro fighting Stan because his vote was safe af. And look at how serious Ouro was about this:
Explaining it to Kawl:
Convincing Kyan (yes, that was probably a joke, but Kyan's vote stuck there till the end, something we should note as well)
Explaining it to Pop:
Explaining it to Kawl again:
Along the way LP joins the Stan wagon and jumps off at 392 with that weird unvote quote.
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I've seen very blatant scum play lately. Quite unlike as Kawl, I tend to see the above as a red flag.
Something which catched my attention while rereading:
1. (#91) D1
We are at 3 of 5 emotions at this point. Exmachina never bothered to react to me calling him out:
D1:
Note how it is another emotion every time. I believe I've found our neutral with the task to post these gifs.
1. (#91) D1
2. (#136) D1Don't make me cry, Stanley.
Too late.
3. (#835) D3No, I'm not!
Yes, I'm referring to his RNG/prod vote.
Sorry if my wording was too inaccurate for you, I'm sure you'd be as charitable.
We are at 3 of 5 emotions at this point. Exmachina never bothered to react to me calling him out:
D1:
D2:
Note how it is another emotion every time. I believe I've found our neutral with the task to post these gifs.