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I use this feature all the time to play PS5 for a bit in bed, on my laptop with headphones, after my wife falls asleep. It's perfect.
Great summary but maybe also consider adding other (better IMO) controller options for more mobilitySo some people may remember my thread about not being able to get a DualSense controller working on Android. Seconds thoughts of getting a Steam Deck and etc. If I should get a gaming laptop. Well this thread is the culmination of all the past threads.
I have an issue where my PS5 is in the main lounge and sometimes a family member is using the TV. I also like the idea of portable gaming around the house such as the office room when not much work to do, in bed and etc. So I looked at different solutions such as a Steam Deck, gaming laptop and etc.
I decided to give remote play a go and surpsingly its working flawlessly. Id say I'm not a casual in Street Fighter V, and that was the test game for me and it works near perfectly. Im pulling out combos and reacting to attacks perfectly. And this is in the highest bitrate and 1080p. If I was paranoid about input lag I could tone down stream quality more.
So for people who can't get it to work here are the steps I used to ensure there isn't much lag.
- PS5 is connected via ethernet cable to router
- Use the PSPlay app on Android it has way more features and supports DualSense. You can even tone down bitrate as well as resolution.
- Leave your PS5 in rest mode and enable to turn PS5 on with remote device
- Use Direct Connect on PSPlay app (you will need PS5 IP address which is on the settings on PS5). If Direct Connect is laggy use regular Connect, regular Connect maybe better at situations where you are further away from your PS5, but if your PS5 is in a nearby room Direct Connect should be faster.
- Connect your DualSense wired to your streaming device. You may need to use a USB C to USB C cable as most tablets or phones have a USB C input. You can also get a USB C to A connector. Or use other 3rd party android controllers or even Xbox controller.
- Make sure your device you are using has WiFi 6 (this may not be required but in my test I have a WiFi 6 device)
Using the above steps I am now playing my PS5 games portably around the house. And the amount of game time I'm getting since I've had this feature is insane. Before people go and splurge money on a Switch OLED or Steam Deck try this and you can save a ton of money. I know many people want a handheld for not playing outside but around the house, if that's the case remote play is actually worth looking into. By the way Steam Deck does not have WiFi 6 so potentially that can be a worse device if you want it for streaming.
Great summary but maybe also consider adding other (better IMO) controller options for more mobility
I use these controllers:
- glap play with a Z Fold 3 (best mobile experience so far)
- ipega controller with Samsung Galaxy Tab s7+
- Razer Kishi for a regular size phone
The idea that PS5 remote play is a substitute for Switch OLED or Steam Deck is dumb. Furthermore, game streaming has been around for years now, congrats on your momentous discovery.
I think you're actually just trolling about the Switch and Steam Deck and these topics are made in bad faith. People have been aware of Stadia, GeForce Now, Steam Link, and xCloud for years now. You might argue that you're referring to PS5 Remote Play based on the thread title, but the idea that's an alternative to Switch OLED or Steam Deck is still dumb.There are plenty of people who don't realise streaming is playable and donesnt have lag, or there experience with it was with a PS4 or worse connectivity. I have provided a setup in the OP to ensure people can mitigate latency. Also as for portables there are many that o ly play portables at home such as on the couch, in bed, or when TV is being used by someone else
An example of that is me myself, I always thought streaming was laggy as the first time I ever tried it was with PSP and PS3 and never touched it again.
I think you're actually just trolling about the Switch and Steam Deck and these topics are made in bad faith. People have been aware of Stadia, GeForce Now, Steam Link, and xCloud for years now. You might argue that you're referring to PS5 Remote Play based on the thread title, but the idea that's an alternative to Switch OLED or Steam Deck is still dumb.
Don't be so cynical. I didn't know you could remote play through Android devices. I didn't even know you could remote play a PS4 via the Vita until I stumbled on a YouTube video a few months back. Remote play for the most part is an optional and potentially expensive addition to what a console offers. Makes sense if people aren't aware of how many options are out there.I think you're actually just trolling about the Switch and Steam Deck and these topics are made in bad faith. People have been aware of Stadia, GeForce Now, Steam Link, and xCloud for years now. You might argue that you're referring to PS5 Remote Play based on the thread title, but the idea that's an alternative to Switch OLED or Steam Deck is still dumb.
Context is that this thread is his "dear diary" continuation of the his "don't buy a Steam Deck" thread.Don't be so cynical. I didn't know you could remote play through Android devices. I didn't even know you could remote play a PS4 via the Vita until I stumbled on a YouTube video a few months back. Remote play for the most part is an optional and potentially expensive addition to what a console offers. Makes sense if people aren't aware of how many options are out there.
So some people may remember my thread about not being able to get a DualSense controller working on Android. Seconds thoughts of getting a Steam Deck and etc. If I should get a gaming laptop. Well this thread is the culmination of all the past threads.
Before people go and splurge money on a Switch OLED or Steam Deck try this and you can save a ton of money.
There isn't PS5-to-Steam crossplay anyway, so bringing up that angle is irrelevant. He knows he'd have to buy the PS5 versions, so telling people not to buy a Switch OLED or Steam Deck, and instead buy a PS5 is dumb. PS5 is not an alternative to Switch or Steam libraries."The probpem is I won't be interested in these games as soon as the eventual sequels come out. Street Fighter VI, Monster Hunter World 2 and etc, we don't know how well they will run on Steam Deck.
Context is that this thread is his "dear diary" continuation of the his "don't buy a Steam Deck" thread.
Maybe you can explain what PS5 remote play has to do with Switch OLED or Steam Deck, and why he's telling people not to buy a Swtich OLED or Steam Deck. How do you "save money" by buying a PS5, decent router, and a phone clip, all while not having access to Switch or Steam libraries?
The context of the previous thread was
There isn't PS5-to-Steam crossplay anyway, so bringing up that angle is irrelevant. He knows he'd have to buy the PS5 versions, so telling people not to buy a Switch OLED or Steam Deck, and instead buy a PS5 is dumb. PS5 is not an alternative to Switch or Steam libraries.
In reality, he's just a troll.
I really want to use this opportunity to remind you all that the Wii U is effectively a portable Wii and that Wii games looks amazing on that 480p tablet screen but alas, I won't.
Yes, remote play is awesome. I'm dying for a Vita so I can do remote play with the PS4. I didn't know you could do it with the PS5 and an Android device, really cool.
I looked all over and this is the only controller that can fit s7+. Dead zones are one thing but it is just not a very comfortable experience for long sessions. I now use a regular xbox/ps5 controller with s7+ (though I rarely remote play on the tablet).I'm looking for a controller for my S7 Plus even if I need to hold it verically. Unfortunately the only one I can find is iPega but I have heard those have issues with the analog sticks having crap deadzones. Is there any other decent controller I can use it's a shame Razer Kishi can't be used with tablets.
I looked all over and this is the only controller that can fit s7+. Dead zones are one thing but it is just not a very comfortable experience for long sessions. I now use a regular xbox/ps5 controller with s7+ (though I rarely remote play on the tablet).
For me the latency was too high.
It ain’t free like you said. On mobile it aint on iphone. Considering these limitations i don’t see why recommending it over Steam Link isnt laughable.Remote play is compatible with any controller as long as you use the unofficial PSPlay app. Although it's doest support 4K stream, it maxes out at 1080p. But for my use case 1080p is sufficient, it would probably look crap on a massive TV connected to a Shield although you can do that after all Shield is android and the app is for Android.
exactly. going out of the way to point out Steam Deck only has a wifi5 for streaming is weird. you can stream Steam Link with wifi6 on compatible devices too, and the main selling point of the Deck is that it has no limitations of streaming.I think you're actually just trolling about the Switch and Steam Deck and these topics are made in bad faith. People have been aware of Stadia, GeForce Now, Steam Link, and xCloud for years now. You might argue that you're referring to PS5 Remote Play based on the thread title, but the idea that's an alternative to Switch OLED or Steam Deck is still dumb.
The idea that PS5 remote play is a substitute for Switch OLED or Steam Deck is dumb. Furthermore, game streaming has been around for years now, congrats on your momentous discovery.
I really want to use this opportunity to remind you all that the Wii U is effectively a portable Wii and that Wii games looks amazing on that 480p tablet screen but alas, I won't.
Yes, remote play is awesome. I'm dying for a Vita so I can do remote play with the PS4. I didn't know you could do it with the PS5 and an Android device, really cool.
It ain’t free like you said. On mobile it aint on iphone. Considering these limitations i don’t see why recommending it over Steam Link isnt laughable.
exactly. going out of the way to point out Steam Deck only has a wifi5 for streaming is weird. you can stream Steam Link with wifi6 on compatible devices too, and the main selling point of the Deck is that it has no limitations of streaming.
You have to be on the same network as your ps5 right? I have a pstv and vita but I only used it at the house.
I think it Steam Deck would be perfect with a 1080p 16:9 screen and wifi6. Let's hope they do that in Steam Deck 2 or with a 3rd party Steam OS based handheld.The Steam Deck is also the perfect device for remote play due to the 16:10 screen.
Highlighting Steam Deck doesn't have WiFi 6 is to let people know all my tests in the OP were using only WiFi 6 devices. Many people potentially buying a Steam Deck for its streaming potential it's important for people to know it doesn't have the latest WiFi 6 standard. I actually assumed it did but then my research made me see that it doesn't. So potentially a cheap android phone with a controller attachment maybe better than a Steam Deck for streaming.
Some of you guys need to stop being overly sensitive like you have stock and shares with Valve. The Steam Deck is a great bit of tech and has many use cases. The fact that it's a system that can be played truly portable outside the house there is no need to stream. The only reason it doesn't interest me is due to my use case, I only play games in the house, so remote play is sufficient. A Steam Deck wouldn't make sense for me due to the price, as well as better life when playing high performance games, I don't want to worry about battery life after 3 hours of gameplay. Also some games I would need to lower frame rate and settings. Where as with streaming I can play at better game settings and wouldn't need go worry about battery life too much as screen on time for streaming is way higher. I also have all the equipment for streaming by accident, already own a PS5, a WiFi 6 device, and PS5 is connected via ethernet, so the cost is 0 for me. I would have definitely considered a Steam Deck if I played games outside, but I work from home and even if I did work outside I usually would drive to work I just can't see a time where I'd play games outside.
But of course there are many scenarios where streaming may not be an option, PS5/Gaming PC isn't connected via ethernet. The room you want to stream is far from the router or PS5. You don't even own a console or PC and the handheld would be your only system. In these cases of course a Steam Deck or Switch is a decent option. There are some people which have some of those things and only need something for cheap to make it work though. Such as having a PS5, but the mobile device isn't WiFi 6 and no phone clip for a controller, I'd suggest for the person's next phone upgrade to get s WiFi 6 device (majority of smartphones have this now) and buy a phone clip for the controller for less than $10.
I think direct connection (without using the router) from console to device using wifi 6 with a not too long distance and not too much walls in the middle should work great with PS5. Not only due to the speed and latency improvements from wifi 5 to wifi 6, but also due to PS5 having that compression hardware.
I think it Steam Deck would be perfect with a 1080p 16:9 screen and wifi6. Let's hope they do that in Steam Deck 2 or with a 3rd party Steam OS based handheld.
Nobody's going to buy a Steam Deck for its streaming potential, when its main selling point is literally much better than streaming: allowing player to store their games directly on the device. "many people" is really just in your head.
Calling you out doesn't mean we are being overly sensitive though. We just see what you are trying to do here. Steam Link has already existed for years. Already existed on mobile phones, raspberry pi, tablet, Nvidia Shield and more. If people wants to stream Steam games around their house, they will already be using Steam Link. Steam Deck (and Nintendo Switch) are for people who wants to go beyond the limitation of streaming. They are both advertised as such. I don't see the need to suddenly pretend that many people's buy Steam Deck as a streaming option while not knowing about Steam Link here.
I'd prefer to have a 1080p screen and wifi 6 on SteamDeck to stream there 1080p games I play on my tv 1:1 instead of having to reduce them to 800p or 720p. This would be considering the case where 1080p+60fps would work properly with PS5 wifi6 remote play (I don't have any wifi6 device so I don't know if it's the case).1080p would be a waste when Steam Deck is a 800p device, 720p for 16:9. Better to reduce latency by decreasing down to 720p as a 1080p stream doesn't benefit much on a Steam Deck which is a lower resolution.
I'd prefer to have a 1080p screen and wifi 6 on SteamDeck to stream there 1080p games I play on my tv 1:1 instead of having to reduce them to 800p or 720p. This would be considering the case where 1080p+60fps would work properly with PS5 wifi6 remote play (I don't have any wifi6 device so I don't know if it's the case).
What I meant is that I have a 1080p tv, so normally I play 1080p 60fps games. And I'd like to have a device like Steam Deck but with wifi6 and a 1080p screen to play in a portable device at the same 1080p/60fps, like in my tv, via remote play at least those games not ported there to play natively and at full performance (or pretty much perceived results, with a smaller display you don't need that much detail).Oh yes if you going to play on the TV 1080p is needed I assumed you meant on the Steam Deck screen itself in which case 720p is sufficient.
I think I’ve found the problem, sirMy wife’s office is also my game room
What I meant is that I have a 1080p tv, so normally I play 1080p 60fps games. And I'd like to have a device like Steam Deck but with wifi6 and a 1080p screen to play in a portable device at the same 1080p/60fps, like in my tv, via remote play at least those games not ported there to play natively and at full performance (or pretty much perceived results, with a smaller display you don't need that much detail).
I know Steam Deck only supports 800p and wifi 5, which is great but I'd prefer to have at least wifi 6, so pretty likely I'll wait for a future SKU (made by Valve or by a 3rd party).
I have had a lot of different experiences with this, there was a time where I tried out all the streaming and remote play options possible, and my conclusion is that it's not there yet.
And honestly, playing on a phone is like fucking with 20 condoms on, it ruins the experience. It's really only for the people who have absolutely no other option. It's nowhere near what you will get on a Switch or the Steamdeck IMO. If you are very young and need a TV and don't got the money, just go online or to some used shop and you can find some 10-year-old TV that's perfectly fine very cheap. It's still gonna trash playing on a phone.
Well, there are many crazy smartphone screens, even 4K or 240Hz with HDR ones. But all I need is a decent 1080p 60fps oled (I have no idea about differences between oled and aoled or other oled types) screen. If it looks as good as the PS Vita screen but at 1080p I'd be more than happy.No doubt a future SKU will happen with things like WiFi 6. But I don't see a portable device releasing with a 1080p screen as it's a waste of resources and battery life to tell the difference on such a small screen. Your best best is a smartphone with a controller attached as those screens are not just for gaming but web browsing so you get 1080p portable screen at a minimum with many AMOLED options.
It's also the kids toy room. She can deal with that mess lolI think I’ve found the problem, sir
Nobody's going to buy a Steam Deck for its streaming potential, when its main selling point is literally much better than streaming: allowing player to store their games directly on the device. "many people" is really just in your head.
Calling you out doesn't mean we are being overly sensitive though. We just see what you are trying to do here. Steam Link has already existed for years. Already existed on mobile phones, raspberry pi, tablet, Nvidia Shield and more. If people wants to stream Steam games around their house, they will already be using Steam Link. Steam Deck (and Nintendo Switch) are for people who wants to go beyond the limitation of streaming. They are both advertised as such. I don't see the need to suddenly pretend that many people's buy Steam Deck as a streaming option while not knowing about Steam Link here.
No doubt no one will buy a Steam Deck for streaming alone of course. But it's the full package, people may like the fact that they can use it to stream in addition to playing Steam games natively. They may play indie games and last gen games natively but the occasional game that doesn't run well on the Deck can be streamed via Steam Link or PS5.
Hey, I tried remote play a while back with Vita and my setup wasn’t great so it wasn’t a great experience, but this thread has reminded and inspired me to check out ps5’s streaming features and play with the setup, just like the OP said.
By the way, why are you talking in the plural about yourself? There’s no we, it’s just you popping in to shit up this thread because you perceive it as an attack. I didn’t see the other threads by OP, maybe they were dumb, but this one makes perfect sense to me. It’s clear as day you’re the one making a scene over your pet issue in someone else’s thread.
Thanks for the thread OP.
Update
So I realise I barely have any lag when connected to my router and my router doesn't have WiFi 6. This leads me to believe WiFi 6 isn't even needed and WiFi 5 is fast enough. So a Steam Deck would make a good remote play device as well and you shouldn't get lag. I'm playing in 1080p and getting decent lag free experience, on a Steam Deck you wouldn't need to stream higher than 720p so should work great. The Steam Deck is also the perfect device for remote play due to the 16:10 screen. Majority of phones in the market have narrow screens, so would be playing with black borders on each side. I think the main thing to have a good experience is to ensure that the PS5 is connected via ethernet as well as being atleast being near the room, so next room or room above or below your PS5.