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Reports on Russian connections to Trump [Summaries in OP] #GoldenShowers

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That seems really risky for 10 billion dollars. That won't even pay for the wall.

The payout would be a lot more than $10 billion. If Trump gets his way and Tillerson gets in office and lifts Russian sanctions, Exxon will now be able to drill over 63 million acres in the Russian arctic. That's a $500 billion asset that would mean big money for everyone involved (Particularly Exxon and its Russian partners - such as Rosneft/Putin).
 

ZOONAMI

Junior Member
This reads more like people in Trump's circle taking advantage of his election win than anything else. Paul Manafort, his former campaign manager, resigned shortly after his financial history with Russian-Ukrainian officials came to light. It wouldn't surprise me if he wasn't the only one.

For instance, why would Trump want to use the Qatari's to funnel $10billion into an infrastructure project when he has the US Treasury now? Or is it someone on his team that will profit of this instead?

It's likely the infrastructure contracts will be for companies with trump ties.
 

Doc Holliday

SPOILER: Columbus finds America
Funny thing is there is more evidence for this crazy mess than whitewater, and that unltimetly got Bill Clinton.

If Obama or Hillary would havethe exact same circumstances, they would both be in jail for high treason.....true or not would have nothing to do with it.
 

Nafai1123

Banned
There's also the fact that Trump owns stocks in MANY different companies. In comparison to someone like Crooked Hillary, who only invests in one Vanguard 500 Index Fund. It's literally impossible to separate his conflicts of interest from his policy decisions as President, which in and of itself should not be allowed.

The Donald owns anywhere from $500,000 to $1 million worth of shares each in Citigroup, JP Morgan Chase , Wells Fargo, Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs

Trump own shares in big pharma companies including Pfizer, Merck, Celgene and GlaxoSmithKline; retailer Walmart, and consumer goods firms Procter & Gamble and Johnson & Johnson. He also hold stakes in a variety of multinational oil companies like Shell, Chevron and Exxon Mobil.

The climate-change skeptic owns shares in Phillips 66 PSX -1.24% - a joint venture partner in the controversial Dakota Access pipeline, where demonstrations are ongoing, and in Kinder Morgan, another pipeline giant facing resistance for its plans to connect the Canadian oil sands to Vancouver, British Columbia. Trump also has a small investment in Canadian energy company TransCanada, the developer of Keystone XL pipeline, which was rejected by President Barack Obama last year but supported by Trump.

The populist billionaire has other Canadian holdings, including $500,000 to $1 million investments in the Bank of Nova Scotia and the Toronto Dominion Bank, and $1 million to $5 million worth of shares in the Royal Bank of Canada. Such investments add to the array of connections Trump already has with foreign entities - including nine figure debts owed to German lender Deutsche Bank and China’s state-controlled Bank of China.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jennife...ks-and-more-foreign-connections/#13e0a37b2434

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/hi...rvative-when-it-comes-to-investing-2015-08-10
 

chadskin

Member
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http://www.wsj.com/articles/excerpt...ournal-interview-with-donald-trump-1484424778

Nobody huh.
 

Ihyll

Junior Member
(partial) summary write up of the money trail for now:
Seems this is at the core of what is going on.

Ex Mi-6 agent Chris Steele's 35 page long opposition research dossier on Trump is dated October 18th and has this bombshell in it:
Russian State Oil Company CEO Sechin (who is part of Putin's inner circle) offered Trump/Page associates 19% stake in Rosneft if personal and state sanctions were lifted.
SOURCE: https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3259984/Trump-Intelligence-Allegations.pdf

On November 7th, Russia signed the deal to sell 19.5% of its stake in Rosneft - which amounts to $11 billion - to Glencore Plc and Qatar sovereign wealth fund.
Commodity trader Glencore Plc and Qatar’s sovereign wealth fund agreed to buy a 10.2-billion euro ($11 billion) stake in Russia’s largest oil producer from the state in a triumph for President Vladimir Putin over sanctions imposed by the West.
SOURCE:https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...und-buy-russia-s-rosneft-stake-for-11-billion

What a coincidence on December 26th: A top executive of Rosneft Oleg Erovinkin, also a former FSB agent, was found dead, with no official cause of death.
SOURCE:http://www.dailysabah.com/europe/20...b-agent-rosneft-official-found-dead-in-moscow

Starting in September, it was reported that Carter Page would be 'advising Trump on energy policy and Russia', and has been probed by the US regarding ties to Russian leaders. Page also has ties with executives at Gazprom through his assistance in advising 'some of its biggest deals in the past decade'. Gazprom is the investment bank that funded the 19.5% purchase of the Rosneft stake by Glencore.
SOURCE: https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/media-russias-gazprombank-fund-rosnefts-145052476.html
"Trump's mystery man in Moscow"
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/the-mystery-of-trumps-man-in-moscow-214283

And then we have this:
The head of Qatar's sovereign wealth fund said it would invest $10 billion in unspecified infrastructure projects inside the United States in response to Donald Trump. Qatar was part of the sale of the 19.5% of Rosnef.
SOURCE: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-qatar-usa-investment-idUSKBN1421AF

Bonus round:
Rudy Guiliani's law firm also has Rosneft as a client.
SOURCE: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...m-may-open-in-china-after-london-office-grows
They also advise Qatar's state run oil company:
SOURCE: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/giuliani-foreign-clientele-possible-conflicts-231413

Carter Page, who has worked for several years in Moscow for Merill Lynch is tied to that Glencore fund.
SOURCE: http://www.interpretermag.com/russia-update-december-13-2016/
also Page seeing opportuniities in Russia:
SOURCE: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-usa-trump-idUSKBN13Y1VD

And in an interview from January 14th with the WSJ, Trump still going on about lifting sanctions as soon as Russia is nice and helps with the fight against terrorists.
SOURCE: http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-sets-a-bar-for-russia-and-china-1484360380

DoublePlusGood bonus round:
Trump's SOS pick Rex Tillerson has excellent ties to Sechin/Rosneft
SOURCES: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...side-rex-tillersons-long-romance-with-russia/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...director-bahamas-based-us-russian-oil-company
http://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2016/12/14/13940866/trump-rex-tillerson-sanctions-russia

That is it ladies & gentlemen, forget the revenge golden showers & prostitutes. All peanuts compared to this.
What will be left of those 11 billion dollars after all partners got their fair share will make Trump look good on infrastructure investments. So it seems Russia is in it for the long run of at least 8 years of Trump.
Seems all pretty simple really.

Holy fucking shit...This is like some Mi6 level investigative work right here.
 

TAJ

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
I'm sorry I'm very late but LOL I've never heard of them either. Did Trump just create them out of thin air??

No. My mom has considered them the only "real" news source for about a year and a half now.
 

TheOMan

Tagged as I see fit
(partial) summary write up of the money trail for now:
Seems this is at the core of what is going on.

Ex Mi-6 agent Chris Steele's 35 page long opposition research dossier on Trump is dated October 18th and has this bombshell in it:
Russian State Oil Company CEO Sechin (who is part of Putin's inner circle) offered Trump/Page associates 19% stake in Rosneft if personal and state sanctions were lifted.
SOURCE: https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3259984/Trump-Intelligence-Allegations.pdf

On November 7th, Russia signed the deal to sell 19.5% of its stake in Rosneft - which amounts to $11 billion - to Glencore Plc and Qatar sovereign wealth fund.
Commodity trader Glencore Plc and Qatar’s sovereign wealth fund agreed to buy a 10.2-billion euro ($11 billion) stake in Russia’s largest oil producer from the state in a triumph for President Vladimir Putin over sanctions imposed by the West.
SOURCE:https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...und-buy-russia-s-rosneft-stake-for-11-billion

What a coincidence on December 26th: A top executive of Rosneft Oleg Erovinkin, also a former FSB agent, was found dead, with no official cause of death.
SOURCE:http://www.dailysabah.com/europe/20...b-agent-rosneft-official-found-dead-in-moscow

Starting in September, it was reported that Carter Page would be 'advising Trump on energy policy and Russia', and has been probed by the US regarding ties to Russian leaders. Page also has ties with executives at Gazprom through his assistance in advising 'some of its biggest deals in the past decade'. Gazprom is the investment bank that funded the 19.5% purchase of the Rosneft stake by Glencore.
SOURCE: https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/media-russias-gazprombank-fund-rosnefts-145052476.html
"Trump's mystery man in Moscow"
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/the-mystery-of-trumps-man-in-moscow-214283

And then we have this:
The head of Qatar's sovereign wealth fund said it would invest $10 billion in unspecified infrastructure projects inside the United States in response to Donald Trump. Qatar was part of the sale of the 19.5% of Rosnef.
SOURCE: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-qatar-usa-investment-idUSKBN1421AF

Bonus round:
Rudy Guiliani's law firm also has Rosneft as a client.
SOURCE: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...m-may-open-in-china-after-london-office-grows
They also advise Qatar's state run oil company:
SOURCE: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/giuliani-foreign-clientele-possible-conflicts-231413

Carter Page, who has worked for several years in Moscow for Merill Lynch is tied to that Glencore fund.
SOURCE: http://www.interpretermag.com/russia-update-december-13-2016/
also Page seeing opportuniities in Russia:
SOURCE: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-usa-trump-idUSKBN13Y1VD

And in an interview from January 14th with the WSJ, Trump still going on about lifting sanctions as soon as Russia is nice and helps with the fight against terrorists.
SOURCE: http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-sets-a-bar-for-russia-and-china-1484360380

DoublePlusGood bonus round:
Trump's SOS pick Rex Tillerson has excellent ties to Sechin/Rosneft
SOURCES: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...side-rex-tillersons-long-romance-with-russia/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...director-bahamas-based-us-russian-oil-company
http://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2016/12/14/13940866/trump-rex-tillerson-sanctions-russia

That is it ladies & gentlemen, forget the revenge golden showers & prostitutes. All peanuts compared to this.
What will be left of those 11 billion dollars after all partners got their fair share will make Trump look good on infrastructure investments. So it seems Russia is in it for the long run of at least 8 years of Trump.
Seems all pretty simple really.

If Guybrush can create this in cave...with a box of scraps...

I really hope the NSA/CIA have the goods.
 

riotous

Banned
Did he also just admit to making up fake news too?

This guys needs to get off the coke.
He always talks like an idiot. Constantly leaves words out of sentences. Gives me a migraine every time I read someone claim he's a brilliant speaker
 
Did he also just admit to making up fake news too?

This guys needs to get off the coke.

I think his intent was to express that he's had a lot of fake news made up about him in the last couple of years, but he never thinks before he opens his mouth, so god only knows what's going to come out of it.
 

RDreamer

Member
I'm sorry I'm very late but LOL I've never heard of them either. Did Trump just create them out of thin air??

OAN is where Tomi Lahren came from.

This is the most disturbing thing beyond anything else.

If this guy was killed because he threatened to expose some part of this stuff, then the world is fucked.

I think the implication is that he was killed because he may have exposed some of this stuff through Christopher Steele.
 

riotous

Banned
This is the most disturbing thing beyond anything else.

If this guy was killed because he threatened to expose some part of this stuff, then the world is fucked.

This shit happens all the time in Russia related dealings; the world is 100% fucked. The fact that any American politician wants to support Russia is disturbing with or without the rest of the potential treason.
 
if Neogaf brings down trump, im done.

If NeoGAF takes down Trump, I'm gonna say my shit jokes helped.

And for damn sure I'm putting that 1/178,072th of the Presidential Medal of Freedom on my CV.

Just gonna leave this here without comment. Look at the date. Just found it interesting lol.

Now I'm also dreaming this guy gets pulled in and has the key info to set the dominos rolling.
 

Nokterian

Member
(partial) summary write up of the money trail for now:
Seems this is at the core of what is going on.

Ex Mi-6 agent Chris Steele's 35 page long opposition research dossier on Trump is dated October 18th and has this bombshell in it:
Russian State Oil Company CEO Sechin (who is part of Putin's inner circle) offered Trump/Page associates 19% stake in Rosneft if personal and state sanctions were lifted.
SOURCE: https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3259984/Trump-Intelligence-Allegations.pdf

On November 7th, Russia signed the deal to sell 19.5% of its stake in Rosneft - which amounts to $11 billion - to Glencore Plc and Qatar sovereign wealth fund.
Commodity trader Glencore Plc and Qatar’s sovereign wealth fund agreed to buy a 10.2-billion euro ($11 billion) stake in Russia’s largest oil producer from the state in a triumph for President Vladimir Putin over sanctions imposed by the West.
SOURCE:https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...und-buy-russia-s-rosneft-stake-for-11-billion

What a coincidence on December 26th: A top executive of Rosneft Oleg Erovinkin, also a former FSB agent, was found dead, with no official cause of death.
SOURCE:http://www.dailysabah.com/europe/20...b-agent-rosneft-official-found-dead-in-moscow

Starting in September, it was reported that Carter Page would be 'advising Trump on energy policy and Russia', and has been probed by the US regarding ties to Russian leaders. Page also has ties with executives at Gazprom through his assistance in advising 'some of its biggest deals in the past decade'. Gazprom is the investment bank that funded the 19.5% purchase of the Rosneft stake by Glencore.
SOURCE: https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/media-russias-gazprombank-fund-rosnefts-145052476.html
"Trump's mystery man in Moscow"
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/the-mystery-of-trumps-man-in-moscow-214283

And then we have this:
The head of Qatar's sovereign wealth fund said it would invest $10 billion in unspecified infrastructure projects inside the United States in response to Donald Trump. Qatar was part of the sale of the 19.5% of Rosnef.
SOURCE: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-qatar-usa-investment-idUSKBN1421AF

Bonus round:
Rudy Guiliani's law firm also has Rosneft as a client.
SOURCE: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...m-may-open-in-china-after-london-office-grows
They also advise Qatar's state run oil company:
SOURCE: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/giuliani-foreign-clientele-possible-conflicts-231413

Carter Page, who has worked for several years in Moscow for Merill Lynch is tied to that Glencore fund.
SOURCE: http://www.interpretermag.com/russia-update-december-13-2016/
also Page seeing opportuniities in Russia:
SOURCE: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-usa-trump-idUSKBN13Y1VD

And in an interview from January 14th with the WSJ, Trump still going on about lifting sanctions as soon as Russia is nice and helps with the fight against terrorists.
SOURCE: http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-sets-a-bar-for-russia-and-china-1484360380

DoublePlusGood bonus round:
Trump's SOS pick Rex Tillerson has excellent ties to Sechin/Rosneft
SOURCES: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...side-rex-tillersons-long-romance-with-russia/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...director-bahamas-based-us-russian-oil-company
http://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2016/12/14/13940866/trump-rex-tillerson-sanctions-russia

That is it ladies & gentlemen, forget the revenge golden showers & prostitutes. All peanuts compared to this.
What will be left of those 11 billion dollars after all partners got their fair share will make Trump look good on infrastructure investments. So it seems Russia is in it for the long run of at least 8 years of Trump.
Seems all pretty simple really.

This is some great detective work goddamn.
 

YourMaster

Member
He always talks like an idiot. Constantly leaves words out of sentences. Gives me a migraine every time I read someone claim he's a brilliant speaker

Why is it so difficult to understand that both is true?

He speaks like an idiot. He simplifies everything to the point any idiot can understand. People have an innate believe that people with a clear and simple explanation know best. He does this on purpose. He uses key terms that stick and form the basis for further confirmation biases.

You can't deny it is very easy to remember what his opinion is on a matter. Right here, this is all 'Fake News'. Everybody remembers this, so it must be true.
If you're still getting migraines, please write down everything you remember that Trump has said, and assume most people will accept that as truth.
 

PantherLotus

Professional Schmuck
I really hope he doesn't make it to Friday and the agencies arrest him along with his friends. To see their faces, would be amazing. He deserves not to be recognised as President, even for a short time, don't give him a day.

Listen, this is important that everyone realizes this: Your (our) fantasy of Trump getting arrested before Friday ... or ever ... doesn't happen without McConnell and Ryan and a LARGE MAJORITY of Republicans in Congress willing to sign off on the action. Which will obviously come with a 'and we'll name his replacement' deal.

Just keep this with you while we all fantasize. And remember it was McConnell that blocked the bipartisan pre-election announcement about Russia after meeting with Comey (along with Dems) behind closed doors. Sooo
 

Jackpot

Banned
With all due respect, this is all there really is:

Russian State Oil Company CEO Sechin (who is part of Putin's inner circle) offered Trump/Page associates 19% stake in Rosneft if personal and state sanctions were lifted.
SOURCE: https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3259984/Trump-Intelligence-Allegations.pdf

On November 7th, Russia signed the deal to sell 19.5% of its stake in Rosneft - which amounts to $11 billion - to Glencore Plc and Qatar sovereign wealth fund.
[/I]SOURCE:https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...und-buy-russia-s-rosneft-stake-for-11-billion


Two numbers being roughly equal - 19% and 19.5%. The rest is all circumstantial or guilt by association.

And on top of that we really don't know jack further than those sentences "they were offered a 19% stake" and "Russia sold 19.5% of its stake". Actual investigation by people in the know might reveal it's a totally normal business transaction with no way for the money to be funneled into private funds. Or it might be a completely out of kilter transaction that made no business sense and came through odd channels.
 
Why is it so difficult to understand that both is true?

He speaks like an idiot. He simplifies everything to the point any idiot can understand. People have an innate believe that people with a clear and simple explanation know best. He does this on purpose. He uses key terms that stick and form the basis for further confirmation biases.

You can't deny it is very easy to remember what his opinion is on a matter. Right here, this is all 'Fake News'. Everybody remembers this, so it must be true.
If you're still getting migraines, please write down everything you remember that Trump has said, and assume most people will accept that as truth.

He contradicts himself incredibly often.
 

robochimp

Member
This reads more like people in Trump's circle taking advantage of his election win than anything else. Paul Manafort, his former campaign manager, resigned shortly after his financial history with Russian-Ukrainian officials came to light. It wouldn't surprise me if he wasn't the only one.

For instance, why would Trump want to use the Qatari's to funnel $10billion into an infrastructure project when he has the US Treasury now? Or is it someone on his team that will profit of this instead?

His infrastructure plan is all tax credits and handing over infrastructure to private entities to monetize and profit from.
 

rjinaz

Member
Trump will be inaugurated. It needs to happen as outlined. We don't need to create a potential constitutional crisis on top of what's already going on.

I think most people, most, know this is going to happen. I'm not going to argue the merits of some kind of crisis because it's moot anyway, he will be president these things take time. I'm more concerned about what happens after.
 

riotous

Banned
Why is it so difficult to understand that both is true?.

It's an opinion not a "truth." In my opinion someone who constantly contradicts himself and says the exact opposite of what he means because he can barely speak his native language correctly for some reason shouldn't be labeled a brilliant speaker.

I work in consulting and Trump would be back office never speak to the client roles.

Having simple messages doesn't make you a brilliant speaker.
 
Why is it so difficult to understand that both is true?

He speaks like an idiot. He simplifies everything to the point any idiot can understand. People have an innate believe that people with a clear and simple explanation know best. He does this on purpose. He uses key terms that stick and form the basis for further confirmation biases.

You can't deny it is very easy to remember what his opinion is on a matter. Right here, this is all 'Fake News'. Everybody remembers this, so it must be true.
If you're still getting migraines, please write down everything you remember that Trump has said, and assume most people will accept that as truth.

I don't know. When someone on Facebook says, "Yea Trump was so right when he said..."

And I look at whatever it is Trump said and I'm like, huh? He used a lot of words to say nothing...what is this person on FB even agreeing with?
 
(partial) summary write up of the money trail for now:
Seems this is at the core of what is going on.

Ex Mi-6 agent Chris Steele's 35 page long opposition research dossier on Trump is dated October 18th and has this bombshell in it:
Russian State Oil Company CEO Sechin (who is part of Putin's inner circle) offered Trump/Page associates 19% stake in Rosneft if personal and state sanctions were lifted.
SOURCE: https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3259984/Trump-Intelligence-Allegations.pdf

On November 7th, Russia signed the deal to sell 19.5% of its stake in Rosneft - which amounts to $11 billion - to Glencore Plc and Qatar sovereign wealth fund.
Commodity trader Glencore Plc and Qatar’s sovereign wealth fund agreed to buy a 10.2-billion euro ($11 billion) stake in Russia’s largest oil producer from the state in a triumph for President Vladimir Putin over sanctions imposed by the West.
SOURCE:https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...und-buy-russia-s-rosneft-stake-for-11-billion

What a coincidence on December 26th: A top executive of Rosneft Oleg Erovinkin, also a former FSB agent, was found dead, with no official cause of death.
SOURCE:http://www.dailysabah.com/europe/20...b-agent-rosneft-official-found-dead-in-moscow

Starting in September, it was reported that Carter Page would be 'advising Trump on energy policy and Russia', and has been probed by the US regarding ties to Russian leaders. Page also has ties with executives at Gazprom through his assistance in advising 'some of its biggest deals in the past decade'. Gazprom is the investment bank that funded the 19.5% purchase of the Rosneft stake by Glencore.
SOURCE: https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/media-russias-gazprombank-fund-rosnefts-145052476.html
"Trump's mystery man in Moscow"
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/the-mystery-of-trumps-man-in-moscow-214283

And then we have this:
The head of Qatar's sovereign wealth fund said it would invest $10 billion in unspecified infrastructure projects inside the United States in response to Donald Trump. Qatar was part of the sale of the 19.5% of Rosnef.
SOURCE: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-qatar-usa-investment-idUSKBN1421AF

Bonus round:
Rudy Guiliani's law firm also has Rosneft as a client.
SOURCE: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...m-may-open-in-china-after-london-office-grows
They also advise Qatar's state run oil company:
SOURCE: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/giuliani-foreign-clientele-possible-conflicts-231413

Carter Page, who has worked for several years in Moscow for Merill Lynch is tied to that Glencore fund.
SOURCE: http://www.interpretermag.com/russia-update-december-13-2016/
also Page seeing opportuniities in Russia:
SOURCE: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-usa-trump-idUSKBN13Y1VD

And in an interview from January 14th with the WSJ, Trump still going on about lifting sanctions as soon as Russia is nice and helps with the fight against terrorists.
SOURCE: http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-sets-a-bar-for-russia-and-china-1484360380

DoublePlusGood bonus round:
Trump's SOS pick Rex Tillerson has excellent ties to Sechin/Rosneft
SOURCES: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...side-rex-tillersons-long-romance-with-russia/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...director-bahamas-based-us-russian-oil-company
http://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2016/12/14/13940866/trump-rex-tillerson-sanctions-russia

That is it ladies & gentlemen, forget the revenge golden showers & prostitutes. All peanuts compared to this.
What will be left of those 11 billion dollars after all partners got their fair share will make Trump look good on infrastructure investments. So it seems Russia is in it for the long run of at least 8 years of Trump.
Seems all pretty simple really.
Good work, hopefully this gets picked up.
 

AYF 001

Member
Not sure how these might be related, but in addition to Karlov, Petr Polshikov, another member of the Foreign Ministry was found dead the same day:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...r-turkey-assassin-andrei-karlov-a7486546.html

In addition, Yves Chandelon, the chief of NATO's terrorist money laundering investigations was also found shot on December 16th

http://www.dailysabah.com/europe/20...s-chandelon-found-dead-in-suspicious-incident

From the articles themselves, they look like they were all related to Turkey in one manner or another. I don't know if money laundering with ISIS would play a role in anything. Perhaps it's a separate series of events in motion, since I can't see a direct relationship.
 

rjinaz

Member
With all due respect, this is all there really is:



Two numbers being roughly equal - 19% and 19.5%. The rest is all circumstantial or guilt by association.

And on top of that we really don't know jack further than those sentences "they were offered a 19% stake" and "Russia sold 19.5% of its stake". Actual investigation by people in the know might reveal it's a totally normal business transaction with no way for the money to be funneled into private funds. Or it might be a completely out of kilter transaction that made no business sense and came through odd channels.

Well yeah, the point being it needs to be investigated. It's not very often the smoking gun is delivered directly to the police station by the perp.
 
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