Imperfected
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Public humiliation is his fetish and Putin is his power top. This thing we're witnessing is just the most out of control instance of kink indulgence in modern memory.
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Reports on Russian connections to Trump [Summaries in OP] #GoldenShowers
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Public humiliation is his fetish and Putin is his power top. This thing we're witnessing is just the most out of control instance of kink indulgence in modern memory.
It's worked for him so far, but eventually there has to be a wave too big for that strategy to work.
See what there trying to do? Are people finally waking up and see how slowly but in the end this is in a situation the world is fucked? I do hope, i really do hope something will be done to prevent this but the wheels have been in motion for a longtime and the puzzel is almost complete..it is also like chess..we just need a checkmate and then it will unfold. After WW2 this is another thing we need to keep a eye on and this will change not only history but this effects everyone everywhere in the world.
cooljeanius
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I did the Twitter thing, but like barely anyone else has used that hashtag yet: https://mobile.twitter.com/hashtag/TrumpUSSR?src=hash
breakfastchampion
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Can you blame the guy? I mean, what if Putie told people about his little secret? That would be so embarrassing! I mean, instead of that let's tilt the world in Russia's favor. That seems like a much better alternative.
SenjutsuSage
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I'm almost through that politico article, "Trump's mystery man in Moscow," and understanding what I do now regarding Comey and how he conducted himself during the 2016 campaign, I kind of get the feeling that Harry Reid, or anybody else, going to him on anything at all, like any suspicions they might have about Trump, or people close to Trump, would be information he (Comey) would immediately use to tip them off, so they could better protect themselves in the future.
TheLaughingStock
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The Treasury and the Federal Reserve would handle the accounting for an infrastructure project.
If they made it legal to hault innogurations if an investigation is going on the GOP would start one every time the Democrats win.
Thats perfectly fine.
but the allegations against Trump are just to dangerous to just ignore and let him slime his way on in without a fight.
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I wonder what some of these 'nothing will happen gaffers' would say about other important matters.
'Removing segregation? Nothing will come of this. Nothing will change. Stop getting your hopes up.'
'Removing segregation? Nothing will come of this. Nothing will change. Stop getting your hopes up.'
Don't start a constitutional crisis. It's what your enemies want, and it would wreck your country for decades to come. Let him become president, use legal means to impede his work. He's already hated - don't wreck your democracy along the way.
Also, Trump has investments in many companies that would profit off such projects.
An FSB asset will be inaugurated as President - the democracy is already broken at that point.
Disagree; this situation just proves how important checks and balances and limiting the power of each branch is. Just make sure a President can't stop or affect an investigation into their own activities; at the same time giving congress the power to hault an inauguration without any actual criminal charges is too much power.
IMO of course; this is all a big test of the structure of the US government.
Imperfected
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Our constitution is awful and has basically just become a joke that our conservatives bandy about to validate their absolute worst behavior, anyway. I think we're more than past due for taking the damn thing under consideration for major rewrites, and were even without this Trump madness.
If the allegations are true, then Democracy is already wrecked, and we just watched as our entire process was undermined easily by our own hands and manipulated by a foreign power, paving way for future presidential fuck jobs.
Letting it go now means letting it happen every time.
Regardless, shit is fucked, we're fucked and we either fight it or get fucked up the ass by russia and china for the next 4 to 8 years.
The only thing we know for sure is that Trump is a useful idiot to the Russians. If only he could be impeached for being a loudmouth idiotic asshole. Your democracy isn't broken until people can no longer vote, protest and voice their opinions; remember, it was you guys that kept the Ethics Office from being dismantled, and that's with a Republican mandate. Focus on getting young people out, and ensuring that Trump gains no legitimacy. He'll be out in 2020 if you make that happen. His *actual* base alone can't win him elections.
But yeah, a meeting with Putin as his first as President - that alone is alarming as fuck. The IC better find something quick.
Well if he does become President it will do unpredictable damage too. For example earlier someone mentioned, can he pass intels to Russia? can he give them names of our Intel agents in the field? What can the government do, if anything, to prevent that. There will be a number of unforeseeable
risks.
TarpitCarnivore
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If Congress, Senate and Supreme Court did this and this all turned out to be false alarms it would be REALLY bad. Trump could use that to his advantage his whole reign, and the GOP as well.
This kind of investigation cannot be reactionary. It really has to be careful and thoroughly investigated. You can't just have the CIA/FBI bust in and say "HEY YOURE ARRESTED....but we gotta investigate this a bit further so hold up"
He and his cabinet have been debriefed on matters already, not all but some. You also forget he can still be removed from office after election, and anyone else they find associated.
This is all hyperbole to me; if Trump gets caught that proves the system eventually works.
In a Democracy things are designed to take time and have processes that require standards of evidence be met before action can be taken.
Completely ignoring the law and stopping a democratic process from happening because of invalidated suspicion is how democracy is broken IMO.
If anything is broken it's our countries moral and ethical compass, out countries level of foresight and intelligence, etc. The fact is we likely do live in a country full of enough people to elect this clown show into office; even if hacking and emails being released was invoked that's still the most frightening fact and what we need to solve IMO.
Not allowing a traitor to become president wouldn't start an actual crisis.
Arrest him for high crimes and inaugurate pence or Ryan (depending on if you have pence on high crimes or not as well).
If they really have to allow the innuguration to happen fine, but then arrrest him immediately after, convict, and impeach him.
A constitutional crisis doesn't necessarily mean there would be an actual crisis.
GOP puts in Pence or Ryan and then you write a new amendment to deal with this situation in the future (if president elect is arrested for high crimes succession comes into play). If pres elect is not convicted after arrest will be able to be inaugurated at a later date.
It's not that hard.
It's an unprecedented situation certainly, but that doesn't mean the White House will burn down or something. We just need a new constitutional amendment to deal with this shitty situation, as it hasn't happened before.
A Russian controlled puppet is going to be in the White House in less than a week.
Democracy has already been destroyed.
There should be a provision to delay it in situations like this, rather than blindly walk into the unknown. But then again, all the pomp and circumstance revolving around inauguration make that difficult too. (In Canada there's no massive ceremony when we have a new PM. He/she's just sworn in.)
BoboBrazil
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A russian controlled us president is a danger for the entire world. He cannot be allowed to enter the white house as President. He will definitely leak our secrets and other ally secrets to Putin.
SlipperyFishes
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Okay, I've made a note of some prominent reporters that cover news for some of the bigger outlets and it's worth emailing them directly (please don't send templates) regarding the copy that was provided earlier by Guy.brush (I added an extra link to WaPo that was relevant about Carter Page as Trump mentions him directly in a transcript). Quote to reveal so that trolls don't decide to take advantage.
See below for the Pastebin link for text, and the list of reporters to contact.
See below for the Pastebin link for text, and the list of reporters to contact.
It's certainly taken a beating but it's not been destroyed yet.
The investigations by Congress and the IC as a whole will continue. There might come a point where the force of good will only come from a lone sniper or a plane hijacker but we're not to that point yet.
Maybe but they could make it so both parties have to approve it. I mean even at this point the GOP has to know they fucked up.
Could you imagine how much damage this is going to do to them if he takes power? Everyone will jump ship, he's not even a little bit qualified for the job, neither are his hires.
They know it, but they're sheepishly avoiding the subject.
ugaboga232
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https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-pres...ntinuation-national-emergency-respect-ukraine
Obama playing some 4d modded STALKER SOC.
Smart move extending sanctions so Trump can't just let it expire.
Obama playing some 4d modded STALKER SOC.
Smart move extending sanctions so Trump can't just let it expire.
Fancyarcher
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The GOP's gonna be the GOP. Not surprised! They really are the worse.
Leeroy3101
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Some of these don't work, FYI.
The addresses to email Rotella, Cheney, and Acosta return with mailer-daemon.
Nice. I wonder what Obama is thinking about this entire. God to be a fly on the wall in all of this
ugaboga232
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I don't think this was an accident, I think he is laying bait (or the sanctions continue which is good anyway).
SlipperyFishes
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Ugh. I've updated with other reporters at the same orgs who would have access as White House Reporters.
The parties aren't official entities of our government.
They could require a super majority I guess. But either way right now there is no such law in place. While there might be a way to design a law that could work doing it without a law in place is not gonna happen and shouldn't happen.
ImpracticalPassword
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Just putting it out there: Daily Sabah is a pro-Turkish gov't paper that some have labeled as a propaganda outlet. Turkey and Russia don't have the best relationship, so I'm not sure how reliable reporting is from this source. It might be better to source other papers instead of that one.
always crazy bacon
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This sounds like the smarter play for the US.
It's how we'll have to do it - however there definitely needs to be something put in place for the future, because this shit is dangerous.
This stuff is getting so bad I'd almost prefer if Trump wasn't impeachable if it means he really had no ties to Putin/Russia. It's terrifying, if it's all true and he stays.
As a Canadian I only just realized impeachment doesn't mean he's out, shouldn't he easily be impeachable if there's a senate investigation?
As a Canadian I only just realized impeachment doesn't mean he's out, shouldn't he easily be impeachable if there's a senate investigation?
I didn't realize that in that same interview with the Wall Street Journal where he said he was open to maintaining Russian sanctions for a limited period of time then revisiting them later that he also said America's stance on the One China policy was negotiable.
I'm pretty sure to the Chinese that's completely, 100% non-negotiable. The US is headed for a trade war with China at best, an actual military conflict at worst. If Trump usually gets his way by bullying, I don't know what peaceful alternatives he has going up against the Chinese government that isn't just going to back down to bullying attempts. They still teach the 100 years of humiliation in school, they're not going to back down on this one.
I'm pretty sure to the Chinese that's completely, 100% non-negotiable. The US is headed for a trade war with China at best, an actual military conflict at worst. If Trump usually gets his way by bullying, I don't know what peaceful alternatives he has going up against the Chinese government that isn't just going to back down to bullying attempts. They still teach the 100 years of humiliation in school, they're not going to back down on this one.
I saw someone else had listed them before, but yeah this wasn't something widely reported from the search results. At least the comment section wasn't full of pizzagaters like some other sites I found. I wasn't sure if they were totally relevant, but if anyone found a more reputable version of the same story they can post it.
Maybe that's why he seemed to be wanting to try to lose the election at times. Threatening to kill Hilary etc.
chicko1983
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The supposed video the Russians have of Trump must be like that Black Mirror episode.
I mean, a golden shower is bad, but its a fetish that is not illegal.
However, something like that Black Mirror episode twist
would be required to make a man like Trump be forced to play along.
Also, is there a death penalty for treason? I'm not from the US nor am I saying that anyone is guilty of treason, just curious.
I mean, a golden shower is bad, but its a fetish that is not illegal.
However, something like that Black Mirror episode twist
that the video is of the main character masturbating to child porn
Also, is there a death penalty for treason? I'm not from the US nor am I saying that anyone is guilty of treason, just curious.
Imperfected
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Technically, yes, though it hasn't been pursued in over fifty years, as far as I'm aware, and hasn't been carried out in even longer. It's entirely possible to receive a much less severe sentencing even for treason.
TarpitCarnivore
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Comey is fucked, no way around it.
Leeroy3101
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Can we get this posted in the OP, or in a new thread? This could do something if we make a concerted effort for it.
chicko1983
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Ok, cheers.
Can the inauguration be postponed? I still don't know how it cant be given the current investigations.
I suppose it suggest that DJT has not been subpoenaed or it directly involved in any current investigations. Hence the inauguration is going ahead.
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