Chuck Norris
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Whether he is right or wrong, using the most elite of the 1% class to try and represent the average white rural male is hardly convincingGet out of your bubble, liberal. I mean, just look at all these non-white....
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Republican Men Say Its a Better Time to Be a Woman Than a Man
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It seems the question "is it better to be a man or woman" was never asked. It was 2 questions. Is this a good time to be a man and is this a good time to be a woman. It's a totally different framing of the problem that can be interpreted by the subject in an another way.
Like, is this a good time to be a woman, yes, compared to my mother women have it easier now.
Is this a good time to be a man. No, my father had it better than me. He always had good work and could afford a bigger house.
This could simply mean that the person questioned looks more the past for answers than the future.
Like, is this a good time to be a woman, yes, compared to my mother women have it easier now.
Is this a good time to be a man. No, my father had it better than me. He always had good work and could afford a bigger house.
This could simply mean that the person questioned looks more the past for answers than the future.
Knuckle Sandwich
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As a man I can walk alone at night and even during the day without the fear of being raped or murdered. Being white also adds the extra bonus of not being afraid that a cop will do the murdering. So... yeah.... no.
These dumbshits just miss the days when women and other minorities "knew their place."
These dumbshits just miss the days when women and other minorities "knew their place."
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That's true lol, maybe Hillary would have won PA if she told Crazy Granpa that she feels sorry for how persecuted white men are.
They also asked if equality had been reached yet (trump voters said yes) and did interviews.
That's an... Interesting interpretation.
And politicians listen to him because he actually votes.
This is really half the problem with getting things done in a nutshell. Not voting and being active in politics cedes the sphere to people like this.
excelsiorlef
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You're making excuses to obfuscate the obvious.
Because Democrats aren't having this issue
The only people thinking women have it better are from the group that most opposes women's rights.
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I'm joking about how easy it is to make up opinions and headlines on statistics.
Compared to your father do women have it good now though?
International Iron Man
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When you're privileged, equality feels like oppression.
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Are you?
DontBeThatGuy
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Sexism also played a part in Trump winning, a big part. It shouldn't be denied.
The average white rural male voted to have the most elite of the 1% class represent them.
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Oh shit you found me out I'm actually Donald Trump.
What do you want? Do you think that clickbait headlines like this are good?
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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And the backpedaling begins! It was all a joke guys, haha!
perfectchaos007
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Nah. There are some areas like in college sport opportunities that women have it better than men, but for the most part men have more opportunities.
EatinOlives
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These women have it so good that the country just elected a confirmed sexual predator into the highest office of the land!
Wait...
Wait...
Are you basing that on the data showing Republican women feeling less discriminated against? This could be explained by Republican women being much more comfortable with traditional gender roles. Anecdotal, I know, but I have a Republican friend who is about to marry a nurse (also Republican). One they're wed she's going to stop working and stay at home. It's super old fashioned and it's a lifestyle women fought to break out of, but this woman in particular is happy with it and doesn't find it oppressive in the way some of the liberal respondents to the NYT poll would.
Someone should show them that Lois ck but about being white.
Fuck, I'm not even white, I'm Latin American but I'm a man and even then I know I have it better than women have it in this world simply because I have a penis. I don't have to deal with sexism, with inappropriate people trying to talk to me or the dread of being out at night alone that something could happen.
Fuck, I'm not even white, I'm Latin American but I'm a man and even then I know I have it better than women have it in this world simply because I have a penis. I don't have to deal with sexism, with inappropriate people trying to talk to me or the dread of being out at night alone that something could happen.
DontBeThatGuy
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It's about taking back the power, man.
WiiredShawn
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Sure, I get that. But it's also hard for someone to be "white men are the lowest on the totem pole" when they, by an overwhelming majority, control most of the world's wealth.
If life is getting harder for the average white rural male, it's because everyone else has been trying to get an actual slice of the pie, while he's been auctioning off greater slices of his pie to the super wealthy via way of conservative politicians. So of course it seems like everyone is doing better than him. He had the most to lose.
Well, there's a very interesting question in the poll results about how much of the responses are self-determined bias in perception rather than reflecting any objective "truth" about the current state of gender equality, and it's not just a republican one. For instance, there's the massive gulf between women saying sexism is a problem, and the number who say that they've actually felt the impact of sexism.
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Yup yup. And that we're not even to equality yet makes it all the more funny (in a sad, disheartening way).
A completely unqualified man got the job over an extremely qualified woman.
Business as usual.
Onlinehero
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Republican men follow the pattern (and greatly exceed!) of how young boys tend to perceive inequality where there is none. Boys tend to have a sharp drop in sexist opinions as well as denial of gender inequalities at age 20. Most research I've read in this area agree that it's a matter of exposure to the opposite sex as well as education. The more isolated you are in your group, the less realistic your world view will be. Seems to fit republican boys club members as well.
Stats from my municipality (in Sweden):
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Boys are given better opportunities than girls (Agree)
14 years - Girls 5%, Boys 5%
17 years - Girls 5%, Boys 5%
Girls are given better opportunities than boys (Agree)
14 years - Girls 8%, Boys 25%
17 years - Girls 3%, Boys 15%
The same study shows that boys perceive their ability to exert influence in school in all areas as being higher than how girls perceive their own ability. Heh.
Stats from my municipality (in Sweden):
(In school)
Boys are given better opportunities than girls (Agree)
14 years - Girls 5%, Boys 5%
17 years - Girls 5%, Boys 5%
Girls are given better opportunities than boys (Agree)
14 years - Girls 8%, Boys 25%
17 years - Girls 3%, Boys 15%
The same study shows that boys perceive their ability to exert influence in school in all areas as being higher than how girls perceive their own ability. Heh.
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Massive Duck. C.M.
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Even when these motherfuckers come right out and say it you still have people trying to defend it
Cot damn
Cot damn
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Gender equity has different definitions, it's true, and we know that there is a sharp split in the educational information the internet feeds to people of different political tribes. For a right winger equality might go no further in definition than old equal pay and opportunities legislations of the past. But democrats are constantly fed stories about equality of outcome such as women being under represented in certain fields.
Man Called Aerodynamics
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Victim Complex.
Or, "When you're used to being the boss, equality feels like oppression"
Or, "When you're used to being the boss, equality feels like oppression"
Chuck Norris
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Bullshit, Black males are the most likely by % of population to be murdered but white males are the highest overall.
White males are also the most likely Group to commit suicide. But apparently things are fine for white males? There a disproportionate bias that white males don't have many concerns. Responsibility of being the bread winner - while women have less opportunity in the workforce it can be conversely true that men have no choice but to be part of the system even if they hate it. Loss of income and job (which we saw plenty evidence of in the election), financial stability, family connections being cut off through divorces and loss of children. There is plenty for the low income white male to be concerned about
The old guy in the article is dumb, but some of the group piling on white males in this thread is just as bad
Garrett Hawke
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maybe the men are always at fault because they are completely disproportionately in power
And that only applies to whites how?
No, things are not fine for white guys. But things are objectively and substantially better. All of that shit going wrong applies to every other group.
You are describing any male, not just white male.
No shit, the majority of the country is white. That's why base rate matters.
if 100 white males get killed out of 1000 total
and 99 black men get killed out of 500
whos more likely to die?
Guess what? the US population of whites is way way way way higher than any other race. of course they are more like in some situations to have more total deaths but total and percentage matter in this specific case because we're talking about likelihood of an even occuring
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You're still being disingenuous.
Disregarding that a race that makes up the majority of the population is going to be more likely to be murdered, when discussing matters is race it's important to look at who is more likely to be murdered due to the color of their skin, and black makes win that contest.
As for the rest of your post, of course white men have problems. However, statements claiming they are on the bottom of the societal totem pole are absurd.
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