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[TheRagnCajun]

6 candidates and Trump is favoured choice for the Republicans. Yes, they should be worried. As a party they are growing more and more extreme, more marginalized. I think this is what fear does to people: fear of terrorism, fear of recession, fear of immigration, fear of change, fear of government oppression; this is what the republicans have been building their foundation on. It drives people to extremes.

The only solution is to grow and become liberal, while still being the 'right wing' choice.

 

[Shake Appeal]

KILLARY LIED WHILE BENGHAZI DIED

They don't hate her because of their concern about Benghazi. They are concerned about Benghazi because they hate her.

 

[Jack Remington]

Arnold won, so it's not crazy to think Trump has a chance.

Arnold was pretty decent. Not as good as Jerry Brown has been, but a huge improvement over Gray Davis.

 

[richiek]

Goes all the way back to the 90s and Republicans hating Bill.

Funny how Republicans were all gungho about Bill's impeachment proceedings and the Monica Lewinsky situation, yet they still hated Hillary when she was the perceived victim in all this.

 

[plagiarize]

Arnold was pretty decent. Not as good as Jerry Brown has been, but a huge improvement over Gray Davis.

While inexperienced and not without some major faults as a governor, Schwarzeneggar was an old school Republican who believed in small government and low taxes, and not one of these people who take fundamentalist issues on a whole host of things and put their heads in the sand on a bunch of others.

W was more moderate than most of the people who are currently polling well in the primaries. It's a serious problem for the party, and a lot of them know it. Jeb would likely leave the country worse off than he'd find it, but I'm sure he'd do less harm than W and he'd be a candidate I would be way more comfortable with than most of the others.

Either they undermine the primary process and put in a candidate republican voters didn't choose, or they end up with a lose lose situation. Either they lost to Hillary, or if one of these long shots actually won the presidency (though necromancy, mind control, or blind luck) they'd be such an unmitigated disaster that the entire party might not recover for decades. When you start reading leaked internal discussions that many in the party are more afraid of Trump or Carson *winning the election* than they are Hilary winning the election, I think it says all you need to hear.

 

[adamsappel]

You also underestimate the historical significance of Hillary's candidacy with women (especially older ones who are more reliable voting patterns). It is admittedly being blinded by Trump's flash right now but make no mistake: it is there.

I can't wait to hear how the demographics worked. I can see conservative women voting for Hillary just to see a woman president. That might change if the Republican nominee chooses a woman running mate, which is my biggest fear.

Funny how Republicans were all gungho about Bill's impeachment proceedings and the Monica Lewinsky situation, yet they still hated Hillary when she was the perceived victim in all this.

I know people who hate Bill Clinton for cheating, and yet think Hillary is a secret lesbian and the two only ever married for political convenience.

 

[Pryce]

I can't wait to hear how the demographics worked. I can see conservative women voting for Hillary just to see a woman president. That might change if the Republican nominee chooses a woman running mate, which is my biggest fear.

I know people who hate Bill Clinton for cheating, and yet think Hillary is a secret lesbian and the two only ever married for political convenience.

lol.

I can't see any conservative voting for Hillary. Completely none.

 

[BoboBrazil]

Yes! Go Trump. Hope he gets the nomination so I can see the meltdowns on Fox News.

 

[mo60]

Yes! Go Donald "That baby was driving me crazy" Trump. Hope he gets the nomination so I can see the meltdowns on Fox News.

A part of me wants donald to win the nomination to see how the republicans react to the win and if any of the republican establishment would support him if he won the nomination.Donald may even force the republicans to finally reform their party to make it more appealing for the general populace if donald is the republican nominee this election and gets crushed by Hilary.

 

[Snowman Prophet of Doom]

Trump's not going to win the nomination. He has ZERO support within the party, itself.

However, every day he remains Unstumpable is a great day for America, in that it further cements the increasingly marginalized future of the Republican party as it currently is constituted.

 

[Herb Alpert]

couldn't he go solo if he were to loose the republican election? he has the financial means...

 

[Hatchtag]

couldn't he go solo if he were to loose the republican election? he has the financial means...

he totally could, but i'd doubt he will. it'd be a complete waste of money. he wouldn't win.

however, if he wanted the democratic party to win, he'd essentially be buying the win by leaching votes from the republicans.

 

[Cerium]

he totally could, but i'd doubt he will. it'd be a complete waste of money. he wouldn't win.

however, if he wanted the democratic party to win, he'd essentially be buying the win by leaching votes from the republicans.

I think if the establishment pissed him off enough he would run just to spite them. He'd probably rail against the GOP and attack them hard from the right, and it would probably drain away at least 10% of the vote. Catastrophic for Republicans.

 

[Dartastic]

I can't believe the Republicans are scared of this guy... I mean seriously.
He's just hot air, money, and a bad comb over. Nothing else.

I can't believe they're giving him the respect of calling him Mr. Trump instead of just Donald or Trump.

Also. Fuck this guy.

 

[siddx]

Although I do hope this whole debacle forces the republican party to shift it's identity and policies drastically in the future, it's not worth the side affect of having bigoted idiots feel legitimized by watching one of their own be the the leading candidate. All this does is make those dangerous, ignorant, hateful people feel like they are in the right and that they should feel free to spread their gross behaviors and ideas without repercussion.

 

[Aaron]

Trump should get the nomination. He's the perfect manifestation of the current state of the Republican party. They let Fox News and conservative radio play Frankenstien, and now they've created a monster.

 

[Tivor Tontomo]

No lol, how can anyone anywhere thing that is possible logically?

Where is he going to expand his base? He has no basket available to put his hand in. He alienated everyone, the fence sitters are not going to go to him, the moderates aren't going to go to him, Jeb, Carson, Cruz, and Rubios votes will mostly not go to him outside maybe a bit of Cruz, and you still got a lot who havent even though of voting yet waiting for the right time.

Too many people sitting out there trump can't get he's going to be stuck with the same base, which may even crack a bit.

 

[QuiteWhittle]

No lol, how can anyone anywhere thing that is possible logically?

Where is he going to expand his base? He has no basket available to put his hand in. He alienated everyone, the fence sitters are not going to go to him, the moderates aren't going to go to him, Jeb, Carson, Cruz, and Rubios votes will mostly not go to him outside maybe a bit of Cruz, and you still got a lot who havent even though of voting yet waiting for the right time.

Too many people sitting out there trump can't get he's going to be stuck with the same base, which may even crack a bit.

I'm pretty sure Trump gets the bulk of his support from self-described "moderates" while the conservatives break for Cruz and Rubio and the evangelists are split between Cruz, Carson, and Trump.

I imagine his supporters are the disaffected blue-collar whites who support Medicare and Social Security but loathe the Dems' support of the marginalized and environmentalism. They aren't Paul Ryan-esque true believers.

 

[Diablos]

Trump should get the nomination. He's the perfect manifestation of the current state of the Republican party. They let Fox News and conservative radio play Frankenstien, and now they've created a monster.

Yep, it's like poetry really.

 

[Anoregon]

They don't hate her because of their concern about Benghazi. They are concerned about Benghazi because they hate her.

Well yeah, it's been shamefully transparent from the get-go.

 

[Rhomega Beta]

It's becoming a reality...

 

[Suikoguy]

Trump's not going to win the nomination. He has ZERO support within the party, itself.

However, every day he remains Unstumpable is a great day for America, in that it further cements the increasingly marginalized future of the Republican party as it currently is constituted.

I've seen this from a few people.

Are you implying that the republican party will just pick someone ignoring the public voting?

 

[HylianTom]

Essential viewing for folks who missed it in the 1990s, adding background the whole Hillary-hate thing:

In 1995, Connie Chung did an interview with Newt Gingrich's mom. At one part, Connie asked her what Newt thought of Hillary. Newt's mom hesitated, and then Connie assured her that the camera would remain off so that the answer would be "just between you and me" - but she kept rolling the tape AND then aired it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vecw539MjWM

Spoiler

("She's a bitch.")

Shortly thereafter, SNL did a really fantastic sketch where Newt (played by Chris Farley) begs his mom (Janeane Garofalo) to not talk to the media anymore. (Jeff Daniels' reactions as the news anchor are pretty damn good, too)
http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/connie-chung/2860995

 

[DragonSworne]

Are you implying that the republican party will just pick someone ignoring the public voting?

Yes they will. And Trump will run third party if they do. Collapse of the Republican party was we know it either way.

 

[PeskyToaster]

The collapse of a party and the rise of a new one would be pretty cool to see. It hasn't happened in years but it's naive to think it won't happen eventually.

 

[Apt101]

The GOP, et al, created the kind of people who would support a candidate like this.

They won't learn their lesson, by the way. Expect an even dumber, more hateful candidate next election.

 

[Blader]

Funny how Republicans were all gungho about Bill's impeachment proceedings and the Monica Lewinsky situation, yet they still hated Hillary when she was the perceived victim in all this.

Hillary was hated in part for (repeatedly) forgiving Bill.

The GOP, et al, created the kind of people who would support a candidate like this.

They won't learn their lesson, by the way. Expect an even dumber, more hateful candidate next election.

Yep. Four and eights year later, and the party still hasn't learned anything from their election post-mortems, where they outlined exactly why they lost and have still not improved on those fronts. An electorate this insular and tone deaf isn't capable of seeing the need to change themselves anyway.

 

[Herbs]

I'm just gonna go with the title of his book saying " Nippled America"

 

[Rubenov]

I'm still amazed at Jeb!'s downfall

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

Essential viewing for folks who missed it in the 1990s, adding background the whole Hillary-hate thing:

In 1995, Connie Chung did an interview with Newt Gingrich's mom. At one part, Connie asked her what Newt thought of Hillary. Newt's mom hesitated, and then Connie assured her that the camera would remain off so that the answer would be "just between you and me" - but she kept rolling the tape AND then aired it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vecw539MjWM

Spoiler

("She's a bitch.")

Shortly thereafter, SNL did a really fantastic sketch where Newt (played by Chris Farley) begs his mom (Janeane Garofalo) to not talk to the media anymore. (Jeff Daniels' reactions as the news anchor are pretty damn good, too)
http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/connie-chung/2860995

wtf, isn't off the record stuff like one of the most important things to keep as a journalist?

how was she not fired and basically thrown out of the industry?

he totally could, but i'd doubt he will. it'd be a complete waste of money. he wouldn't win.

however, if he wanted the democratic party to win, he'd essentially be buying the win by leaching votes from the republicans.

from what I've seen he hasn't spent all that much money. Considering the support he has, it wouldn't be all that expensive to run a third party bid and derail the republicans.

 

[HylianTom]

wtf, isn't off the record stuff like one of the most important things to keep as a journalist?

how was she not fired and basically thrown out of the industry?

I remember the controversy being huge, and Chung losing her coveted spot on the evening news, getting the boot from CBS, etc.. it was definitely shocking.

For reasons I don't understand, journalists seem to get forgiven pretty often.

 

[Blader]

wtf, isn't off the record stuff like one of the most important things to keep as a journalist?

how was she not fired and basically thrown out of the industry?

I don't think she explicitly said it was off the record, even if she was sure as hell implying it.

She did take a lot of heat for it though.

 

[phinious]

You reap what you sow. This is the endgame of current Republican ideology -- an absolutely unelectable candidate who can only appeal to a very narrow segment of the population.

That being said, I'll still be surprised if he is the nominee. I'd also wouldn't call it impossible for him to win the White House, especially if the schadenfreude hits the right note at the right time. That's what his campaign is based on -- getting attention at the right time at the expense of everybody else.

Narrow segment? Besides my family, everyone I know and work with Love trump because "he's not afraid to speak his mind". I think you overestimate the general populace if you think he only appeals to a narrow segment.

 

[Deleted member 13876]

I'm just gonna go with the title of his book saying " Nippled America"

Damn, he gave her the D.

 

[sixteen-bit]

just republicans?

 

[Stinkles]

just republicans?

Yes. Trump winning is great for the Democratic candidate and actually the Democratic house and Senate positions.

Notice how quiet the left wing is being. The only sound you can hear is them rubbing their hands together gleefully.

 

[Herbs]

Damn, he gave her the D.

lol

 

[LegendofJoe]

Nope. It's gone almost completely red. We have a Governor who was second to turn away Syrian refugees, is attempting to roll back Medicaid, made headlines about lbgtq rights, and a Senator who is becoming a tea party darling.

My wife and I moved to Fayetteville, so that's +2 for progressive candidates.

 

[Link]

from what I've seen he hasn't spent all that much money. Considering the support he has, it wouldn't be all that expensive to run a third party bid and derail the republicans.

He hasn't spent much at all. I saw on CNN yesterday that Trump has spent a little over $200k on his campaign, while Jeb! has spent nearly $30 million.

 

[Valhelm]

I wonder how the GOP establishment feels about Trump's comparatively progressive tax plan.

 

[RoninChaos]

I wonder how the GOP establishment feels about Trump's comparatively progressive tax plan.

They don't like it. It's another reason why they're scared of him.

 

[Yen]

Yep. Also,

7 Things People Who Say They're 'Fiscally Conservative But Socially Liberal' Don't Understand

Can't believe that fiscal conservatism is still a buzzword used by people to not vote for Democrats.

@crushing bort
hmm well I'd say I'm fiscally conservative but socially very liberal. the problems are bad but their causes...their causes are very good

 

[BokehKing]

I can't believe the Republicans are scared of this guy... I mean seriously.
He's just hot air, money, and a bad comb over. Nothing else.

Republicans don't have anyone that can generate interest like trump, at all