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Researchers find evidence of ‘hidden hearing loss’ in college-age human subjects

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Researchers from Massachusetts Eye and Ear have, for the first time, linked symptoms of difficulty understanding speech in noisy environments with evidence of cochlear synaptopathy, a condition known as “hidden hearing loss,” in college-age human subjects with normal hearing sensitivity.

In a study of young adults who may regularly overexpose their ears to loud sounds, a research team led by Stéphane Maison, Ph.D., showed a significant correlation between performance on a speech-in-noise test and an electrophysiological measure of the health of the auditory nerve. The team also saw significantly better scores on both tests among subjects who regularly wore hearing protection when exposed to loud sounds. Their findings were published online today in PLOS ONE.

“While hearing sensitivity and the ability to understand speech in quiet environments were the same across all subjects, we saw reduced responses from the auditory nerve in participants exposed to noise on a regular basis and, as expected, that loss was matched with difficulties understanding speech in noisy and reverberating environments,” said Dr. Maison, an investigator in the Eaton-Peabody Laboratories at Mass. Eye and Ear and Assistant Professor of Otolaryngology at Harvard Medical School.

Hearing loss, which affects an estimated 48 million Americans, can be caused by noise or aging and typically arises from damage to the sensory cells of the inner ear (or cochlea), which convert sounds into electrical signals, and/or the auditory nerve fibers that transmit those signals to the brain. It is traditionally diagnosed by elevation in the sound level required to hear a brief tone, as revealed on an audiogram, the gold standard test of hearing sensitivity.

“Hidden hearing loss,” on the other hand, refers to synaptopathy, or damage to the connections between the auditory nerve fibers and the sensory cells, a type of damage which happens well before the loss of the sensory cells themselves. Loss of these connections likely contributes to difficulties understanding speech in challenging listening environments, and may also be important in the generation of tinnitus (ringing in the ears) and/or hyperacusis (increased sensitivity to sound). Hidden hearing loss cannot be measured using the standard audiogram; thus, the Mass. Eye and Ear researchers set out to develop more sensitive measures that can also test for cochlear synaptopathy.

Diagnostic measures for hidden hearing loss are important because they help us see the full extent of noise-induced damage to the inner ear. Better measurement tools will also be important in the assessment of future therapies to repair the nerve damage in the inner ear. Mass. Eye and Ear researchers have shown in animal models that, under some conditions, connections between the sensory cells and the auditory nerve can be successfully restored using growth factors, such as neurotrophins.

“Establishing a reliable diagnosis of hidden hearing loss is key to progress in understanding inner ear disease,” said Dr. Maison. “Not only may this change the way patients are tested in clinic, but it also opens the door to new research, including understanding the mechanisms underlying a number of hearing impairments such as tinnitus and hyperacusis.”

OMG, I've been trying to explain this to people for years now. When I would go to the doctor for a physical my hearing results would come back just fine, but while in a restaurant or driving on the freeway all the sudden I have to ask people to repeat themselves over and over like I'm an old man. My mom accused me of having "selective hearing" and my ex-gf would constantly snap at me for asking her to repeat herself. Finally an explanation for this annoying ass issue. I'm guessing spending the majority of my high school years listening to metal with my headphones on full blast caused the major damage.

Also, relevant clip from The Office:

Nate's Hearing Problem
 
Interesting. I'm completely deaf in 1 ear so I can't hear shit in a noisy environment. Pretty sure it contributed to my antisocial behavior growing up.
 

Bread

Banned
Yup I definitely have this and it sucks. Seems like I have to ask my girlfriend to repeat things in busy places too often. Gonna turn the music down in the car and wear earplugs to shows.
 

Clockwork

Member
I have this problem. I'm 36.

Try to talk to me where there is background noise (in person or on the phone) and I won't be able to hear you.

Yet listening to music or watching the tv I can hear just fine. Usually my girlfriend who doesn't have the above problem will have to turn the volume up because I have it too quiet.
 

FinKL

Member
I'm 100% sure I have this. I have perfect hearing / can pass hearing tests, but sit me down in a social gathering, I have a hard time hearing people even though we're face to face. People around me in the group can hear just fine over the background noise, so there's that.
 
I have this problem. I'm 36.

Try to talk to me where there is background noise (in person or on the phone) and I won't be able to hear you.

Yet listening to music or watching the tv I can hear just fine. Usually my girlfriend who doesn't have the above problem will have to turn the volume up because I have it too quiet.

I'm 37 and have this as well. Bars are a especially bad, can't hear a damn thing anyone is saying. I should start carrying around an ear trumpet.
 

Mathieran

Banned
I think I might have a mild case of this. In most settings I'm fine, but at a noisy party or bar or anything like that and I struggle to understand people when having conversations. Not a big problem since I don't do that stuff much anymore.
 
I'm 100% sure I have this. I have perfect hearing / can pass hearing tests, but sit me down in a social gathering, I have a hard time hearing people even though we're face to face. People around me in the group can hear just fine over the background noise, so there's that.

Yeah that's why my mom said I have selective hearing. Recently we were driving on the freeway with 2 family friends and she could hear them just fine, while I could barely make out what they were saying. She's 58 and I'm 27, so there's no way I should have worse hearing than her. But here it is.
 

Culex

Banned
I definitely have this. After being exposed to so many explosions and gun fire in the army, I have a LOT of problems hearing people if there is back ground noise. The VA said my hearing is fine, but my wife constantly gives me shit for not hearing her when we are outside.
 

studyguy

Member
Our entire generation is going to be deaf and likely blind from screen eye strain by the time we're old farts.
Lets get those bionic ears and eyes going.
 
“Hidden hearing loss,” on the other hand, refers to synaptopathy, or damage to the connections between the auditory nerve fibers and the sensory cells, a type of damage which happens well before the loss of the sensory cells themselves. Loss of these connections likely contributes to difficulties understanding speech in challenging listening environments, and may also be important in the generation of tinnitus (ringing in the ears) and/or hyperacusis (increased sensitivity to sound). Hidden hearing loss cannot be measured using the standard audiogram; thus, the Mass. Eye and Ear researchers set out to develop more sensitive measures that can also test for cochlear synaptopathy.

Whelp this describes me and I'm fucked

Been going on with me for a while now tho
 
I totally have this. I can hear a pin drop in a quiet room and tell you exactly where it fell.

Try to talk to me in a restaurant and it's like you're speaking a foreign, mumbly language.
 

RCSI

Member
Finally, scientific backing to my experiences in noisy environments confirmed! Yes, I have a mild case of tinnitus, which makes it hard to concentrate in noisy environments.
 

whitehawk

Banned
This may have some relation to why I hate going to bars to hang out and drink when it would be so much nicer to hang at someones house where I can hear everyone properly.
 
Yup, I'm sure I have some form of this. Definitely have a harder time hearing people at parties and loud bars than other people seem to. Too many concerts without earplugs I guess.
 

demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
I have a bad case of this. I've always described it as "shitty bar hearing", because whenever I'm listening to someone in a bar I can't understand a fucking word they say even though my hearing is fine in quieter environments.

I just experienced it earlier today, too. There's a guy in my classes who is a "low talker", and talks at the exact same volume no matter what environment he's in. Sucks.
 

Tevious

Member
I don't think I listen to loud music as much as other people do, but I must have damaged my ears nonetheless because I certainly have this issue. If I'm in a noisy environment with lots of people talking or loud music playing and someone tries to say something to me, I often need them to repeat and speak louder. All I hear is a wall of noise. Can't filter everyone else out too well. Now I know what to tell people the next time I'm in a loud environment.
 

Kaydan

Banned
Yeah I have that. It's quite annoying when at a restaurant or in a pub where everyone's having a blast but I can't hear shit. After a while it's too demanding to try and hear people's voice over all this noise so I zone out.

People often ask me if I'm ok in these types of environments because I become somewhat antisocial after a while, whereas I'm pretty social outside of these conditions.

I tried to explain the situation to some people including my girlfriend and close friends. At first they were like really?!? But after telling them my problem they seem to be more understanding.

One tip I can give you guys is to try and sit in the middle of a table and not at extremities when in a restaurant or a bar or whatever. Being closer to everyone talking definitely helps a lot.
 

dafinezt

Banned
This may have some relation to why I hate going to bars to hang out and drink when it would be so much nicer to hang at someones house where I can hear everyone properly.

Yup I hate going to bars or anywhere noisy and crowded just because it's impossible for me to talk to people. People try and talk to me and I just nod and say stuff "yeah" and "ok" pretending to understand what they're saying lol.
 

Principate

Saint Titanfall
My sister has tinitus had it diagnosed in her late 20's. Early hearing loss and hearing related problems are serious business
 

JustenP88

I earned 100 Gamerscore™ for collecting 300 widgets and thereby created Trump's America
I'm sure everyone is going to self-diagnose with this but me too thanks. I can't hold a conversation in a fucking bar because I just flat out can't hear what people are saying. I'm constantly just nodding my head and saying 'yeah' because I have no idea what's going on.
 
Maybe this is why I score perfect on hearing tests but somehow manage to have the shittiest tinnitus infested ears and I'm constantly dealing with hyperacusis. Figure out what's wrong with my shit and fix it science... I'm okay with having stem cells shot up the fuckers too.
 
Hmm, I think I have this. Can't understand people well in noisy restaurants or bars.

Also, my ears are sensitive to loud noises like nail guns, lawn mowers, other machinery. Some people look at me like I'm a weirdo for wanting to wear hearing protection while someone's operating an electric saw.
 
I definitely have this. I'll try so hard to listen to people in noisy environments, but people often have to repeat themselves 2-4 times before I understand them. It's annoying to them and embarrassing for myself.
 
I'm 21 and I'm pretty sure i suffer from this, it even happens when watching movies, it has also made my social interactions to become quite awkward at times, I sometimes just pretend I understood what was being said to avoid the shame.
 

Violet_0

Banned
yup, got this too
unless the person I'm talking to is, like, really close, conversations in clubs or at concerts tend to be pretty one-sided
 

human5892

Queen of Denmark
I might as well be deaf when I'm in a crowded bar. Played in a loud band throughout my teens and early 20s, so... jeffgoldblumthereitis.gif
 

Clockwork5

Member
I have this problem. I'm 36.

Try to talk to me where there is background noise (in person or on the phone) and I won't be able to hear you.

Yet listening to music or watching the tv I can hear just fine. Usually my girlfriend who doesn't have the above problem will have to turn the volume up because I have it too quiet.

Same here. All those years in bands took its toll. Although something as benign as having the AC window unit on in the same room and my TV is damn near full blast.
 
http://www.psypost.org/2016/09/rese...hearing-loss-college-age-human-subjects-44892



OMG, I've been trying to explain this to people for years now. When I would go to the doctor for a physical my hearing results would come back just fine, but while in a restaurant or driving on the freeway all the sudden I have to ask people to repeat themselves over and over like I'm an old man. My mom accused me of having "selective hearing" and my ex-gf would constantly snap at me for asking her to repeat herself. Finally an explanation for this annoying ass issue. I'm guessing spending the majority of my high school years listening to metal with my headphones on full blast caused the major damage.

Also, relevant clip from The Office:

Nate's Hearing Problem

I also have major difficulty making out what people are saying if there is just about any background noise. To the degree that it doesnt make sense and I wonder what is wrong with me. I have to ask people to repeat so often. This must be me.

I havent spent a lot of time listening to loud music though. Only a couple shows that were loud. Day to day I actually like my music medium-low. Maybe a couple times was enough?
 

ElFly

Member
this is my wife's problem!

it's not that I kind of mumble while I speak

it's her and all her fancy college education
 
Fuck. This fits me perfectly and explains so much. Well, now I know what's probably going on at least so I can explain it to people better. =/
 
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