Marty-esque
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Resident Evil: Revelations 2 |OT| Yeah, but it's only $25
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They can't find any signs of The Family because aside from Simmons, they are not directly involved in any of BIO6's events.
The Family are always in hiding. That's part of what being a secret organization entails, especially when your goal is to manipulate global society. They do recover Simmons' corpse and extract the enhanced C-Virus strain. The post-credits scene in REV2 isn't the farthest, it takes place just as Chris and Piers are being deployed in China. It wasn't building up to anything, it was just drawing a connection to BIO6 the same way REV1 drew a connection to BIO5 by having TRICELL recover t-Abyss, implying that t-Abyss is what allowed them to monopolize the B.O.W. market by the time of BIO5.
The Family are always in hiding. That's part of what being a secret organization entails, especially when your goal is to manipulate global society. They do recover Simmons' corpse and extract the enhanced C-Virus strain. The post-credits scene in REV2 isn't the farthest, it takes place just as Chris and Piers are being deployed in China. It wasn't building up to anything, it was just drawing a connection to BIO6 the same way REV1 drew a connection to BIO5 by having TRICELL recover t-Abyss, implying that t-Abyss is what allowed them to monopolize the B.O.W. market by the time of BIO5.
Ah, OK. I see what you mean now.
Zambatoh
Member
Classic Barry is remembered for a lot of his one liners. Basically a cross between a goofball and a badass. A lot of which has to do with the blind idiot translation.
REmake Barry is quite a bit more serious. A lot of his charm was lost in this version because they tried to keep the script closer to the original Japanese.
In the field of localization, trying to keep the script as close to the original tends to be a double edged sword at times. For some games it works, for others...
Astral Dog
Member
Kind of irrelevant? its no more irrelevant than Revelations 1, good sir. main problem its that it ended up as an inferior REmake, wich was already kind of outdated, but i still consider a classic. delves into Umbrellas backstory too.
But yes wait for the remaster
The translators in this series are not exactly consistent even on their best days.
REmake's localization is considerably better, even though it's not perfect itself. The files in particular are littered with plot holes and errors. I don't find OG Barry charming, just ludicrous. I think REV2 was good at striking a balance, but some of the references go too far and detract from it.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
That's fair, I know The Family is not mentioned, I think I might have worded this wrong as both you and Neiteio, I meant The Family in RE6 were obviously trying to erase connections between Carla (and in extension, Simmons) actions from themselves, so the world thinks it was Neo Umbrella.
However, I actually thought the post-credits scene was just after the events of RE6, and for a dumb reason, but re-thinking it it would make sense it was during the RE6 events. My reasoning was a brain fart moment on myself, my main reasoning was because all of RE6 China scenario with Chris/Leon/Jake/Sherry takes place at night, in a single night, and it doesn't become daybreak until Chris escapes the underwater facility, BUT they're in China and Claire/Barry's in the US, so obviously while it was night in China it'd be day in the US. My initial thoughts was that it was directly after the events of RE6, but I see what you're saying and it would make more sense.
However, I actually thought the post-credits scene was just after the events of RE6, and for a dumb reason, but re-thinking it it would make sense it was during the RE6 events. My reasoning was a brain fart moment on myself, my main reasoning was because all of RE6 China scenario with Chris/Leon/Jake/Sherry takes place at night, in a single night, and it doesn't become daybreak until Chris escapes the underwater facility, BUT they're in China and Claire/Barry's in the US, so obviously while it was night in China it'd be day in the US. My initial thoughts was that it was directly after the events of RE6, but I see what you're saying and it would make more sense.
Zambatoh
Member
Yeah. I noticed a lot of those files carried over from the original game.
Well, it was Neo Umbrella. The Family didn't actually do anything besides shoot Carla and recover Simmons' corpse. Tall Oaks was basically all Simmons.
It's actually the new ones that suffer most, I think.
http://projectumbrella.net/articles/About-V-ACT
http://projectumbrella.net/articles/Observation-Record
http://projectumbrella.net/articles/Family-Photo-and-Notes
The "plasmolyzation" thing is unforgivable. As is the Alexia alive/dead mixup. Both of these are basically impossible to make if you're actually paying attention. The V-ACT file is just missing a lot of information in the English version and gets the terminology wrong (V-ACT is the effect, not the creature, so there's no "V-ACTs").
Jawmuncher
Member
I gotta disagree.
She'll need to do more than transfer her mind and bring some people to an island to become a memorable villain in my eyes.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
Yes, but Neo Umbrella and Simmons actions were founded on The Family, not by them, by by effect of them. As Carla was trying to get back at Simmons, a member of The Family, and destroy the world order. Which is why The Family intervened, because obviously stopping Carla do this is in their best interests, and what I meant of covering their asses. And Simmons actions was to protect US and in extension The Family, as the president was going to reveal the US government's role in the Raccoon City incident, which would lead to the US losing influence over the world, but failed at containing it when Neo Umbrella claimed responsibility. And this being the point where The Family responds to take out Carla (or attempt too, at least), and cultivate Simmons, who they viewed as a blemish anyway on their name, so two birds with one stone and all that.
Marty-esque
Member
I got the platinum. I have earned the right to become a god.
Btw, is there like a glitch on the ps4 version where you can't equip some of the ex weapons? I have the katana and the bubble gun and I can't equip them at the bench. I bought them and they're there to select but they won't go into any of the slots.
Btw, is there like a glitch on the ps4 version where you can't equip some of the ex weapons? I have the katana and the bubble gun and I can't equip them at the bench. I bought them and they're there to select but they won't go into any of the slots.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
I haven't gotten either of them, but I think the Katana and Bubble Gun are exclusive to Moira and Natalia.
The Family did initially establish Neo Umbrella as a front organization for perpetuating bioterrorism around the world so they could control conflict and terrorism. Simmons used it to claim responsibility for Tall Oaks, but then Carla assumed the name herself and claimed responsibility for Lanshiang.
Simmons ordered The Family's agents to shoot Carla, rather than The Family taking matters into their own hands. The Family were otherwise quite neutral. It wasn't until Simmons mutated that The Family abandoned him.
Simmons ordered The Family's agents to shoot Carla, rather than The Family taking matters into their own hands. The Family were otherwise quite neutral. It wasn't until Simmons mutated that The Family abandoned him.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Goddamn, what an epic ending. We need a gif of that scene with Barry. Everyone know the one I mean, that was such an epic moment, I nearly jumped out of my chair to fist pump the air.
Interesting post credit scene too, really hope we get a second season that builds on that ending. Such a wonderful experience, I can't believe how good this turned out to be. I still remember being pretty down on it when the first screens/footage came out showing it was set in a prison...capcom played that perfectly. They didn't ruin any of the things post chapter 1, really good to see a company not show virtually everything in pre-release material.
Interesting post credit scene too, really hope we get a second season that builds on that ending. Such a wonderful experience, I can't believe how good this turned out to be. I still remember being pretty down on it when the first screens/footage came out showing it was set in a prison...capcom played that perfectly. They didn't ruin any of the things post chapter 1, really good to see a company not show virtually everything in pre-release material.
Marty-esque
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Yeah you were right. Thanks Dusk.
AdaWong
Junior Member
Speaking of English localization, I was reading RE6 files in Japanese (translated through Project Umbrella) and comparing them to the "official" translation.
Take a look at this:
Project Umbrella Translation
ADA WONG
"....However, Ada seems to have some "true purpose" and doesn't mind betraying organizations and clients in order to achieve it either."
Official English Transcript
ADA WONG
"....She appears to be working toward a specific goal, and once she accomplishes it, she is the type that would have no qualms about betraying her handlers."
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lol wat? They literally screwed up Ada's personality. She's NOT evil, an anti-heroine at best, in the Project Umbrella translation, it says that Ada would betray anyone IN ORDER to achieve her goal.
In the "official" translation, it's implied the Ada is the biggest asshole in the world that once she's finished with her objective and achieved her goal, she'll betray everyone else just because.
Take a look at this:
Project Umbrella Translation
ADA WONG
"....However, Ada seems to have some "true purpose" and doesn't mind betraying organizations and clients in order to achieve it either."
Official English Transcript
ADA WONG
"....She appears to be working toward a specific goal, and once she accomplishes it, she is the type that would have no qualms about betraying her handlers."
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lol wat? They literally screwed up Ada's personality. She's NOT evil, an anti-heroine at best, in the Project Umbrella translation, it says that Ada would betray anyone IN ORDER to achieve her goal.
In the "official" translation, it's implied the Ada is the biggest asshole in the world that once she's finished with her objective and achieved her goal, she'll betray everyone else just because.
shiftplusone
Member
In my older age I haven't had a lot of time to sit down and play a game with a buddy since resident evil 5. Had that same friend come over last night and we played episode 1 and thought it was interesting and had some great moments. We were gonna switch off between characters so he could shoot something every so often but then I loaded up raid mode just to see.
Fucking 9 hours later we decided that we should call it.
This is a good ass video game
Does anyone know if the pc split screen also offsets and shrinks the screens too? I imagine it's a resource thing on consoles and can't imagine the pc version having that
Fucking 9 hours later we decided that we should call it.
This is a good ass video game
Does anyone know if the pc split screen also offsets and shrinks the screens too? I imagine it's a resource thing on consoles and can't imagine the pc version having that
auto-evade on neil, drill from pedro, ground pound from gabe are the ones that stick out in my head
i guess leon's weird ass push but i think that thing sucks ass
gabe's ground pound causes stun so if you've got charge you can do ground pound->charge up melee on big boss dudes for mega damage
villain spoiler:
alex has an interesting skill but i think it's really mediocre. the confuse time is really low and having enemies turn on each other doesn't really help that much as nominally you'd just be wiping them out anyhow
The English translations are full of shit like this. Like the translators just glanced at the original text and then wrote something merely similar.
Ah, I see. I knew that the original translation of RE1 was kinda terribad (Jill sandwich et al). I was thinking that Barry's backstory/motivations had been changed in the REmake, but if it's only the tone of his dialog, then I guess I'm covered to play RERev2.
Also, RE3 is considerably harder than RE2... wow. It's kicking my ass.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
I usually play every RE game on the hardest difficulty possible on my first run through the game. In terms of difficulty, I think the harder RE games (judging off the hardest selectable difficulty you can choose out-the-gate and not unlockable difficulties) would be:
01.) Code Veronica (especially if you don't know how OP the knife is)
02.) Revelations 2 (it's legitimately challenging on Survival)
03.) Revelations Unveiled HD (a bit of an unfair advantage Revelations 1 has is the console/PC version had the 'remixed' difficulty mode, Infernal, unlocked out of the game. If going by the 3DS original, it'd be much lower).
04.) Resident Evil 3: Nemesis (it has its moments)
05.) Resident Evil REmake (I think the beginning is the hardest part on Hard)
06.) Resident Evil: Dead Aim (this wouldn't be nearly so high if it weren't for that FUCKING FINAL BOSS ON HARD Eqwaslsdlfkgkdf)
07.) Resident Evil 2
08.) Resident Evil 5 (while plenty of supplies, some encounters are tough on Hard)
09.) Resident Evil Zero
10.) Resident Evil 4 (pro difficulty is challenging, but you can't go higher than Normal first run, which with constant savepoints and surplus supplies, is middling challenging)
11.) Resident Evil 6 (even on Professional, it wasn't that hard of a game, a few moments, but manageable if you got the mechanics down. Wasn't able to play No Hope out the game, so didn't experience that first)
12.) Resident Evil 1 (this is a bit hard to judge, I decided to go with Original as opposed to Arranged in the DC as that should be played after the Original as its basically a different game, and honestly, RE1 isn't that hard if you have tank controls down).
13.) Resident Evil Survivor (helplessly short and easy, meant to be replayed but I think very manageable on Hard).
That's just my personal opinion off the top, though. Need to finish Gun Survivor 2 and the Outbreak games though, and didn't include the Chronicles games.
He's one of the reason I want to read the manga I need more Piers!
XxSlasherMcGirkxX
Member
The ending kinda makes me wonder if
the whole idea of transferring ones mind into another body would give them excuse to maybe bring back a dead character. It would give them the chance to bring back Albert Wesker (which I could see them doing down the road) or Spencer. I always hated what RE5 did to Spencer. He is the mastermind behind almost everything in the series and I hate how Wesker easily kills him in a cutscene. Give him a new young body and let him wreck shit. He is the evilest thing in the series.
Jawmuncher
Member
No Joke
Alex Wesker being in a cloned albert's body would be amazing. Would bring back some CVX type stuff and would make sense with how much she idolizes him.
Dragon1893
Member
You can do it like that, yeah.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
As been answered, yes you can. I will extend on that answer though, the game saves whatever choice you made last and overwrites it if you do the other choice. You can tell what choice you have currently selected by going to episode 3 Claire's scenario in episode select, and then in the bottom right-corner of the screen you'll either see Claire or Moira highlighted, based on what choice you made.
Pilgrimzero
Member
I have the ability to unlock either the chicago typewriter or bowgun, but no real info on what they do aside from the obvious (shoot bullets/arrows). how are they worth 10K points to unlock?
CrichtonKicks
Member
The official translation is saying the same thing. It's just easy to misread it the other way.
It does open this door, I think, to an extent, but it would also be pretty horrible. Wesker and Spencer are already dead, their consciousness is out and gone (Wesker's especially since there's literally nothing left of him at this point). The stuff with Alex was done while she was still alive, she died after transferring her mind to Natalia. They could do something like have it were Spencer or Wesker found out about Alex's research and had like a backup body, but eh, that would be pretty dumb, in my opinion. I mean, RE can be dumb, sure, but that especially would be an eye-roller for me
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
Major spoiler talk about the post above.
I'm less worried about them bringing back dead characters, though that would be worst case scenario but I don't think they're going to do it. What I think they might do is the technology gets in another villain's hands, and we may have a situation of a villain's consciousness being in multiple different people at once, which has potential to be pretty dumb. XD; Imagine a game where there's a mysterious villain, and it turns out the villain is multiple characters from the story because of this. While I'm fine with Alex and such, I hope we don't seem some extravagant form of this in the future.
Yeah, those are both saying the same thing to me. Maybe it's easy to misread, I don't think it's that easy to, I think people are just purposely reading into the exact wording too deeply and trying to pick it apart.
AdaWong
Junior Member
No, it does not.
Yeah, you can go to some pretty wacky places with it. Like:
Having "The Family" actually all be one person!
XxSlasherMcGirkxX
Member
The series isn't above resurrecting dead characters who are popular (Wesker) so I could see them doing it again.
Jawmuncher
Member
Not gonna lie
A villains mind being in a 9 year olds body is already pushing it for me at this point. I need a main villain our heroes can actually fight against. I just can't imagine RE7 being about the team trying to stop a 9 year old girl despite what braing she is currently working with.
"At the last second I ducked under the rockets, and I was wearing lava-proof pants."
Good sir, are you familiar with
Alma of FEAR fame
Hm, with as much mutation that goes in this series, I really don't think this is much of a problem unless you just have to have a humanoid who is superhuman like Wesker was in RE5. Which...honestly, I'd rather they just not have that anyway.
Jawmuncher
Member
The only villain I can think of that could come back and not be pushing it is Krauser.
Because there was nothing special about how Ada beat him in her story.
Well, you also have to consider the timeline.
Isn't Revelations 2 set back in like 2012? And who knows what year the next time she shows up will be set in.
Mutant Piers. Turns out the virus helped him survive. He is salvaged by The Family and brainwashed to work at their behest, until Chris uses the power of not-gay-but-totally-is to restore Piers' bro-manity.
Jawmuncher
Member
I would think
with the set up that they wan't a villain who will last more than one game and have a presence. Which if that's the case you need a human who isn't so young as a threat if you want a face. Since mutations are saved for the final event.
I would find that even more of a stretch for RE.
A little girl with super powers as well against our heroes? Considering the amount of people who disliked Wesker in RE5 I can't imagine how that would go. Though I understand why you bring it up since it was in the bad ending.
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
Sold a CSGO gun skin to buy the increased parts and weapon storage A DLC.
I was starting to get really tight on part space.
The weapon storage also feels a little too dumb at 24, gives you just enough to have 1 of each gun but that's it.
96 slots is a bit over kill but i desperately needed more room.
I was starting to get really tight on part space.
The weapon storage also feels a little too dumb at 24, gives you just enough to have 1 of each gun but that's it.
96 slots is a bit over kill but i desperately needed more room.
Jawmuncher
Member
She is 11 when RE6 ends in 2013. So if the next game is 2020 she would be 18.
Well also they could just timeskip the next game a few years ahead. It doesn't *have* to be set in the same year that it's released. Or
Alternatively the virus could be speeding up the aging process if they wanted to go that route, though the whole point of the experiment was to get a new body to keep living longer and longer, so hopefully they don't do that.