Beermeister
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The biggest disappointment of E3 2013.
Retro Studios working on fucking Donkey Kong
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DKCR returns sold well cause there were 100 million wiis sitting around people's houses and the nostalgia factor kicked in, it is not what the wiiu needed to sell consoles. The last thing the wiiu needed was another 2d side scroller. Know what else sold a shit ton ??? New super Mario brothers Wii and how is that sequel selling consoles for Nintendo??
stupid? DKCR sold a truckload of copies while Metroid can barely be called a success. Making a sequel is the opposite of stupid
You know what other Western Nintendo company made several great DK games? Rare.
For me personally I think it's wasting their talent. We know Nintendo makes good platformers. They have several internal teams that make good platformers. Why then have Retro make yet another one of those?
I'm sure this game is gonna be great, but I was hoping Retro would be put on a more daring project.
The first game actually did well enough that for a long while it was remembered and fondly at that. The SECOND game is the one that fucked it all up by being a quick cash in during the dying throes of the NES while the SNES was out with fucking Super Metroid at the time.
That's exactly how I feel. There are enough games like this already coming to Wii U. The system is fucking swamped with mascot platformers.
And also, I'm a huge metroid fan, and have never enjoyed Donkey Kong games.
Extra Sauce
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Would have been much better resource management to assign a hungry young developer on DKC to work with the solid foundation laid by Retro Studios, and have Retro work on a next-gen revival of a franchise like Metroid or... Metroid. Fucking Metroid man, where is it? Seriously.
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
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Another DKC game "so soon?" 3 years is "so soon?"
Doc Holliday
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Poor retro, that explains all the people leaving.
Omegasquash
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Would have liked Metroid, but I'm fine with DK. They did it right last time, so let's see what they'll do this time.
Please no weird motion controls
Fantastical
Death Prophet
I doubt people think this will be bad. These are separate discussions that I don't think people understand.
When most people in this thread are "disappointed" it's NOT because they think this will be bad. It's because it isn't exciting. It's boring and safe. It will probably be a great game, but it's not a game I'm looking forward to playing.
Edit: Added an important word int here.
TreasureHunterG
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Why didn't Nintendo revelead this in 2012? Why they got so secretive about this? WTF! If this was a new IP, fine, but a new DK? I don't get Nintendo's logic. They look so dumb.
I don't like the idea that making a great platformer is a waste. It's not like Nintendo and Retro (or Rare in the past) made carbon copies of each other's platformers.
They have their personal touch, it matters to me.
I'm guessing because of DKCR 3DS.
Fox Mulder
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The WiiU just needs games to sell, and DKCR2 will almost certainly be a great game. Nintendo probably sees it as more viable right now too, coming of a successful wii version and 3ds re-release.
Maybe it's not as exciting as a new metroid or something, but I love the DKC series.
StickSoldier
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I think it has more to do with the fact that we hoped they were working on something different. We just had DKCR 3D released, and Nintendo is too scared to do anything new, so we just have the same type games coming out. I'm tired of Nintendo doing this man. I miss the days when they weren't tied down to the same formula for years. When they were the innovators. Now they just release MK, NSMB, and Smash. At least let Rare do something different man, they at least deserve that.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
I do think people need to get it through their head once and for all that Monolith Soft is a valid first party Nintendo studio and X shows Nintendo "is willing to commit to a huge HD game".
Having said that...
... a DKCR sequel from Retro so soon is definitely playing things too safe. People are losing their shit over the "insult" of Super Mario 3D World right now, even though I don't think it was very surprising at all. 3D Land has become a big seller and found a balance for 3D Mario most people are willing to accept.
But with a game like that in development and the Yoshi platformer, this does seem like a bad time to put Retro on a similar game. If Retro has two full teams now, things could end up different anyway. But I would agree this is likely a mistake in terms of the big picture.
The problem is that this game seems like Nintendo's DmC - not what anyone asked for, even if by itself it represents a high quality, well-made game.
Having said that...
... a DKCR sequel from Retro so soon is definitely playing things too safe. People are losing their shit over the "insult" of Super Mario 3D World right now, even though I don't think it was very surprising at all. 3D Land has become a big seller and found a balance for 3D Mario most people are willing to accept.
But with a game like that in development and the Yoshi platformer, this does seem like a bad time to put Retro on a similar game. If Retro has two full teams now, things could end up different anyway. But I would agree this is likely a mistake in terms of the big picture.
The problem is that this game seems like Nintendo's DmC - not what anyone asked for, even if by itself it represents a high quality, well-made game.
Ravensmash
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Heh, if I didn't know better I'd be presuming that Retro are an awful developer from some of the earlier posts.
Sure, it's disappointing that they're not doing something new but this looks great!
Sure, it's disappointing that they're not doing something new but this looks great!
The only Donkey Kong release was been DKCR3D, so it's not like they've been cranking those out either.
Donkey Kong Country Returns came out in 2010, people - by the time this one comes out it'll have been 3-4 years. In 2010 Nintendo released Other M (which was shit and sold like shit) and DKCR (which was amazing and sold amazing) - what would YOU invest your money in?
Uncle Rupee
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That was just an example.
The point is I'd rather they work on a different game than DKC because that was the last game they made.
evilchicken
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DKCR rated around a 9 average. It sold more than all 3 Metroid games, combined. That's around 6 million copies. They made 3 Metroid games in a row, and somehow this surprises you? It had the sales, it had the reviews. Why wouldn't they make another one.
You guys... you guys.
You guys... you guys.
For what it's worth, I don't think Retro should've been working on a new Metroid or a new DKC. Something more original and ambitious.
Barack Lesnar
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I figured an off-shoot team would be doing this. They put Retro on it? What a waste of talent.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Retro Metroid or....I dunno new IP was what I wished for. Ninty fairy did not grant it.
Nothing1016
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If you wanna vent, vent at these fuckers.
FUCK YOU FOR BEING EXCITED, YOU CAUSED THIS.
FUCK YOU FOR BEING EXCITED, YOU CAUSED THIS.
Kazii and RawkHawk, please don't kill me. ;_;
Oh come on, really? You really think that?
I would've preferred that Retro work on a new Star Fox game. Or Metroid. Or even a new IP. That they're working on Donkey Kong isn't too much of a problem, but the Wii U is already well served by platform games this year and next. NSMB U, the Luigi title, Mario 3D, Rayman, Sonic... probably more I'm missing. So it's just really disappointing, considering what Retro is capable of. They could make a new 3D game really pushing the Wii U's visuals, but no - 2D Donkey Kong in a market saturated in platformers. A game they've already done. In fact, it was the last game they've done.
Disappointing.
fly high ~ayunite~
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Maybe it's possible they're working on another game and this. Y'all are catching feelings over this.
this seriously pissed me off.
DKCR was a great game, but jesus christ, they take a studio who could do something big for them and trap them on the series. if it works once, it'll work twice... three times. i'll buy the game, but it even felt like i was being cheaply fan serviced into spending money... and im one of the fans. good lord.
DKCR was a great game, but jesus christ, they take a studio who could do something big for them and trap them on the series. if it works once, it'll work twice... three times. i'll buy the game, but it even felt like i was being cheaply fan serviced into spending money... and im one of the fans. good lord.
Bill Rizer
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Metroid is steadily returned in Japan, in Sakamoto's hands. For the better, I dare to say. Please look for E3 2014 Direct for Metroid V.
Gouty
Bloodborne is shit
A lack of platformers on the Wii U? I can't even address the hardcore portion of your statement because I dont know what the hell it means.
It all makes sense now, Mario U, Luigi U, Rayman, Kirby and Yoshi are for the children while DKC is for the hardcore. Got it.
The problem isn't that DCKR is getting a sequel.
The problem is that Retro is making it.
SolarPowered
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I think Nintendo just ceded this generation and are biding their time until the next go around.
:/
:/
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
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Discomurf
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Retro Studios confirmed (trash if already posted)
http://e3.nintendo.com/games/detail/donkey-kong-country-tropical-freeze/
http://e3.nintendo.com/games/detail/donkey-kong-country-tropical-freeze/
Uncle Rupee
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Sadly no, it seems Nintendo simply dropped the ball yet again.
sketchsanchez
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So I'm disappointed as well BUT...
A lot of people in this thread seem to think making a good platformer takes no effort at all which is like..so fucking dumb i dont even-
I get being bummed-I'm fucking bummed too!-but stop with that shit.
A lot of people in this thread seem to think making a good platformer takes no effort at all which is like..so fucking dumb i dont even-
I get being bummed-I'm fucking bummed too!-but stop with that shit.
Beat me to it.
A new DK should be a blast, but it feels like a waste for a team that has proven it can remix old IPs into new ideas. I also think that the this entire direct was retreading 100% of the old ground, which adds to the disappointment.
Glass Rebel
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I loved DKCR and I will love this one as well but... I would have preferred Metroid or a different revival. I see why they went with this but it's disappointing nonetheless.
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