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[nkarafo]

Have you tried using the GPU hard sync option?

Yes it's on by default for all emulators.

But with the SNES, i had a bit more lag compared to, say, Genesis. This was more apparent with Super Mario World where i could feel a bit of lag even on my CRT monitor. I feel that now it's alright, although i haven't tested it yet on my LCD.

 

[Radius4]

Did they manage to fix the input lag in SNES emulators? I feel like it's a bit more responsive now with Bsnes_Mercury_balanced.

Are there any other cores that are improved like so?

Yes snes9x, next and bsnes shaved one frame of input lag that was inherent to snes emulation recently.

 

[Dizzy-4U]

Quick question. I'm trying the 174 mame core and the games run great, but I have this issue where I can't read anything from the MAME UI. Tried different video settings, disabled shaders, DSR, etc. but nothing seems to fix it. Any ideas?

The game themselves looks fine though.

edit: Got it. Alternate render method in the core options fixed it. It's very tiny but at least I can read it now.

 

[Awakened]

Quick question. I'm trying the 174 mame core and the games run great, but I have this issue where I can't read anything from the MAME UI. Tried different video settings, disabled shaders, DSR, etc. but nothing seems to fix it. Any ideas?



The game themselves looks fine though.

edit: Got it. Alternate render method in the core options fixed it. It's very tiny but at least I can read it now.

Waiting for that and the aspect ratio problem (4:3 is squished more than it should be) to be fixed. Then I can finally upgrade from my year old core now that the no nag options are back in.

 

[Dizzy-4U]

Waiting for that and the aspect ratio problem (4:3 is squished more than it should be) to be fixed. Then I can finally upgrade from my year old core now that the no nag options are back in.

Ah, ok. So it's a problem with the core. I thought I messed up somewhere. Thanks.

 

[Brhoom]

Fellas,

What is the best way to setup aspect ratio and resolution for different emulators in general. I believe I have left aspect ratio on 'set by Core'. Resolution I'm unsure about.

What I like to do is turn on "per core config" then with each core I turn on integer scale and set aspect ratio to "custom".

Then I change the "Custom viewport width/ height" for each core (make sure you turn on and off intger scale so it resets to the perfect scale.

Here watch this video at the 41:20 mark:
https://youtu.be/3yeKMo6mcAo

Just make sure you increase both the width and height the same number of times to get the best picture.

Hope this helps you getting the best picture out of your games.

 

[Dina]

What I like to do is turn on "per core config" then with each core I turn on integer scale and set aspect ratio to "custom".

Then I change the "Custom viewport width/ height" for each core (make sure you turn on and off intger scale so it resets to the perfect scale.

Here watch this video at the 41:20 mark:
https://youtu.be/3yeKMo6mcAo

Just make sure you increase both the width and height the same number of times to get the best picture.

Hope this helps you getting the best picture out of your games.

Writing this from work so I can't check RetroArch itself.

So am I understanding this right in that for the NES, I need to put integer scale on and set custom viewport (I've never used this before) to 256 × 224? Or should I set custom viewport to 8:7? Or should I up the resolution in 1x, 2x, 3x, 4x increments until I get to either 1920 or 1080?

I do use a shader (CRT-Royale) if that helps.

 

[Brhoom]

Writing this from work so I can't check RetroArch itself.

So am I understanding this right in that for the NES, I need to put integer scale on and set custom viewport (I've never used this before) to 256 × 224? Or should I set custom viewport to 8:7? Or should I up the resolution in 1x, 2x, 3x, 4x increments until I get to either 1920 or 1080?

I do use a shader (CRT-Royale) if that helps.

Set it to custom and work from there, if you want to see everything 4x and if you are ok with some of the image getting lost in the overscan use 5x

For nes I just use integer, I don't care about perfect circels, I just want the sharpiest picture I can get. Sure the image will be less than 4:3 and more like 8:7 but I like it that way, in the end do what you like.

Also since you use crt royale check this link

http://libretro.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4909

The best shader settings I've used, if you want to change shaders setting I think "menu shader parameters" is the one you change setting with.

 

[Dizzy-4U]

Also since you use crt royale check this link

http://libretro.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4909

The best shader settings I've used, if you want to change shaders setting I think "menu shader parameters" is the one you change setting with.

Thanks for this. It looks pretty damn nice. I need to play around with the settings a little bit more but I'm quite happy with the results so far.

 

[Decado]

Any suggestions for settings or shaders for 2d psx games like sotn, rayman, etc.?

Playing on hdtv.

 

[AzureSkies]

Any suggestions for settings or shaders for 2d psx games like sotn, rayman, etc.?

Playing on hdtv.

I'm curious about this too.

 

[Knurek]

Any suggestions for settings or shaders for 2d psx games like sotn, rayman, etc.?

Playing on hdtv.

crt-easymode-halation looks lovely and doesn't require much GPU grunt.

 

[Iced]

Do you still need to compromise either audio or video with Retroarch on Android? I remember reading a post from one of the developers (I think) stating perfect playback just isn't possible, and that you'll either need to deal with stuttering video or audio cracks/hitches. I was dealing with the latter on my Xperia Z3 Compact the last time I used Retroarch (I believe about 6 months ago).

Anyone have any tips on how to have a smooth overall presentation? One thing I read was putting in your screen's exact refresh rate in the video options can help, but I've never been able to figure out what the exact number is, and I don't feel like doing a lot of trial and error.

 

[Radius4]

I don't have any stuttering or anything like that but my devices are way more powerful.
The problem is the CPU governor, thermal envelopes and the garbage collector.

Even on the Shield Tablet / K1, the CPU governor kicks in and throttles down when there is low load (say for example SFX games in SNES9x) and then you get crackling. If you touch the screen touch boost kicks in and all is good again. If I set my power policy to max performance all is good again.

 

[Iced]

I don't have any stuttering or anything like that but my devices are way more powerful.
The problem is the CPU governor, thermal envelopes and the garbage collector.

Even on the Shield Tablet / K1, the CPU governor kicks in and throttles down when there is low load (say for example SFX games in SNES9x) and then you get crackling. If you touch the screen touch boost kicks in and all is good again. If I set my power policy to max performance all is good again.

I see. So is this info outdated? http://libretro.com/forums/showthread.php?t=189 It's a sticky in the Android forum.

 

[Radius4]

I don't see how what I said invalidates any of that.

 

[Iced]

I don't see how what I said invalidates any of that.

Well that thread seems to blame it on the refresh rate being incorrectly reported to the AndroidOS, which seems different from what you said. Unless they're not? (I honestly don't know.)

 

[The Faceless Master]

Well that thread seems to blame it on the refresh rate being incorrectly reported to the AndroidOS, which seems different from what you said. Unless they're not? (I honestly don't know.)

One thing some devices do to save power is lower the refresh rate during low loads, so it can be related.

 

[Iced]

I see. So basically I'm screwed?

I used to be able to run Retroarch just fine on my Nexus 5. I didn't think I'd have worse performance on a Z3. And it seems like I would have to root my phone in order to control how the CPU performs, which isn't in the cards for me.

If anyone here has somehow had any luck with a Z3 and Retroarch, I'm all ears!

 

[Daffy Duck]

What's the best controller for this on the PC? Does it support all of them like the Xbox one controller? Is that the simplest one to use?

 

[Brhoom]

What's the best controller for this on the PC? Does it support all of them like the Xbox one controller? Is that the simplest one to use?

I use a Dual shock 4 thanks to ds4windows, retroarch auto map the buttons for you.

 

[BassForever]

So I'm watching a video tonight on setting up retroarch and hyperspin on my new nvidia shield tv and I was baffled when the guy showed how to torrent and more specifically him getting every game for an entire system in one click. I'm not sure what blows my mind more the fact such a thing exists, that someone would blatantly show themselves doing something illegal on youtube in an instructional video, or that someone would even want to have every single game on a system. I get it for physical collectors or for systems like the wiiu, vita, or vb where the library is small, but ffs why would you waste time getting an entire library when you probably only plan to play like 1% of the games on it?

Sorry about that, I do have one actual question that I browsed the thread and didn't find an answer apology if its been asked before. If I've got emulators working for individual systems and I don't really care about filters or borders and care mostly for as accurate as possible gameplay with no input lag does retroarch run games better or is it mostly the conveinence of it being a one stop shop?

Another question, can retroarch support more then 4 players... And by extension can the nvidia shield tv support more then 4 players?

Thanks for any advice anyone can give

 

[Awakened]

Sorry about that, I do have one actual question that I browsed the thread and didn't find an answer apology if its been asked before. If I've got emulators working for individual systems and I don't really care about filters or borders and care mostly for as accurate as possible gameplay with no input lag does retroarch run games better or is it mostly the conveinence of it being a one stop shop?

I get very smooth Vsync performance and no noticable lag with it on my desktop, whereas some stand alone emulators stutter or lag in fullscreen. I haven't used it much on Android, but I've read on the Libretro forums that the vulkan video driver has really good performance on the Shield TV.

 

[nkarafo]

I get it for physical collectors or for systems like the wiiu, vita, or vb where the library is small, but ffs why would you waste time getting an entire library when you probably only plan to play like 1% of the games on it?

Preservation. Research (some sets have prototypes, unreleased games, etc). Building your own database. Comparing every port if you do reviews or you are just interested. Testing compatibility of emulators.

 

[BassForever]

I get very smooth Vsync performance and no noticable lag with it on my desktop, whereas some stand alone emulators stutter or lag in fullscreen. I haven't used it much on Android, but I've read on the Libretro forums that the vulkan video driver has really good performance on the Shield TV.

Sounds solid guess I'll test it out in a little bit.

Preservation. Research (some sets have prototypes, unreleased games, etc). Building your own database. Comparing every port if you do reviews or you are just interested. Testing compatibility of emulators.

All good points, especially the reviewer doing all ports never considered that. Thanks!

 

[Iced]

I see. So basically I'm screwed?

I used to be able to run Retroarch just fine on my Nexus 5. I didn't think I'd have worse performance on a Z3. And it seems like I would have to root my phone in order to control how the CPU performs, which isn't in the cards for me.

If anyone here has somehow had any luck with a Z3 and Retroarch, I'm all ears!

I would just also like to mention that when I was on my Nexus 5, it was on Lollipop. I'm wondering if my performance issues stem from being on Marshmallow now.

 

[BassForever]

So I dunno why but Retroarch seems to crash for me all the time on my nvidia shield tv regardless of what SNES core I try using usually when trying to leave the game for the menu or getting back into the game. I'm also finding everything just feels... I dunno how to explain it but slow? Like there's no input lag regardless of which core I use or what options I flick but the game always feels slow and switching over to SNES9x EX+ proves it's not just me. I assume I have to keep flicking switches and the nightly might just be jank but it's incredibly frustrating trying to figure all this out with it crashing every 5 minutes.

Is there a way to save your settings? Having to turn off the default button press overlay is really annoying since this isn't a touch screen device.

 

[Rufus]

Is there a way to save your settings? Having to turn off the default button press overlay is really annoying since this isn't a touch screen device.

It should be saving everything you change on exit, but since you're crashing that doesn't happen.

 

[Dr. Zoidberg]

It should be saving everything you change on exit, but since you're crashing that doesn't happen.

Yes, I've gotten in the habit of quitting Retroarch after making configuration changes, then restarting before I try to load a game. That way my changes are saved. Not a big problem now but when I was first learning how to set everything up it was a serious issue because Retroarch does not fail gracefully. One incorrect setting or BIOS in the wrong place and you simply crash to desktop with no errors given. So it's best to quit (which saves) and then restart to test.

 

[Phatcorns]

So today I decided I was going to finally get an emulator set up properly, but one thing that has always turned me off on emulators is scrolling games are so choppy. Here's a video comparison I made of Yoshi's Island: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPzisy2wYq0

Hopefully you can tell, but why is it that the emulator scrolls so choppily? I have vsync enabled, I'm running at 60hz, I have a very powerful computer. Is there something I'm missing?

EDIT: I figured it out. Had to go to GeForce control panel, enable triple buffering and then set v-sync to be controlled by the 3d application. Smooth as butter now.

 

[Radius4]

Yes, I've gotten in the habit of quitting Retroarch after making configuration changes, then restarting before I try to load a game. That way my changes are saved. Not a big problem now but when I was first learning how to set everything up it was a serious issue because Retroarch does not fail gracefully. One incorrect setting or BIOS in the wrong place and you simply crash to desktop with no errors given. So it's best to quit (which saves) and then restart to test.

 

[Radius4]

PSA: core-specific configs are going away, it's just a horrible hackjob in the codebase and it was quite problematic, particularly on static linked platforms.

Instead we'll try to add a "Save configuration override" in the menu for the next version

For people that use them... well sorry, you can still use them by adding --config corename.ext.cfg to your commandline I guess

 

[Brhoom]

PSA: core-specific configs are going away, it's just a horrible hackjob in the codebase and it was quite problematic, particularly on static linked platforms.

Instead we'll try to add a "Save configuration override" in the menu for the next version

For people that use them... well sorry, you can still use them by adding --config corename.ext.cfg to your commandline I guess

Is there a way other than this to have different integer scale for each core then?

EDIT: I feel like we've been stuck in page 63 for years now.

 

[Knurek]

PSA: core-specific configs are going away, it's just a horrible hackjob in the codebase and it was quite problematic, particularly on static linked platforms.

Instead we'll try to add a "Save configuration override" in the menu for the next version

For people that use them... well sorry, you can still use them by adding --config corename.ext.cfg to your commandline I guess

Are configuration overrides those tiny cfg files, that have per core/game settings?
config\bsnes\Mario no Super Picross (Japan).cfg

video_shader = ":\shaders\bsnes_balanced_libretro.dll.cgp"
audio_mute_enable = "true"

Will something like this work after the change you mention?

Also, sorry to be pushy, but had you any time to look into that 'not saving autosavestate while quitting' issue I mentioned back when 1.3.6 got released? I've just tried the nightly build from today, and the problem still persist.

 

[Rich!]

PSA: core-specific configs are going away, it's just a horrible hackjob in the codebase and it was quite problematic, particularly on static linked platforms.

Instead we'll try to add a "Save configuration override" in the menu for the next version

For people that use them... well sorry, you can still use them by adding --config corename.ext.cfg to your commandline I guess

this is a good change.

 

[Radius4]

Are configuration overrides those tiny cfg files, that have per core/game settings?
config\bsnes\Mario no Super Picross (Japan).cfg

video_shader = ":\shaders\bsnes_balanced_libretro.dll.cgp"
audio_mute_enable = "true"

Will something like this work after the change you mention?

Also, sorry to be pushy, but had you any time to look into that 'not saving autosavestate while quitting' issue I mentioned back when 1.3.6 got released? I've just tried the nightly build from today, and the problem still persist.

Yes overrides are those.
And btw I hope by tomorrow you won't need overrides for shaders, I am adding functionality to save and load presets per-core and per-game

Edit: sorry haven't looked at that issue yet.

 

[Rich!]

Is it true that the input lag has been decreased in recent builds?

Because I've just built up a full retro console RGB setup to my HDTV (full native RGB SCART input) and the difference in input lag is staggering.

 

[Radius4]

The SNES cores got a fix that should decrease input lag a full frame, not sure if that's what you mean.

 

[Rich!]

The SNES cores got a fix that should decrease input lag a full frame, not sure if that's what you mean.

Which core in particular? BSNES, SNES9X or CATSFC? Or all?

I noticed quite significant lag in DKC2 against the same game on my JVC PVM.

 

[Radius4]

BSNES/mercury and SNES9x

 

[Brhoom]

I'm starting to like my ps1 games not upscaled and just as they is.

Help.

Edit: Changing overlay scale in retroarch causes it to crash, I can do it by editing the file myself but I can't through retroarch.

 

[Radius4]

Also, sorry to be pushy, but had you any time to look into that 'not saving autosavestate while quitting' issue I mentioned back when 1.3.6 got released? I've just tried the nightly build from today, and the problem still persist.

Does it happen with exit from the menu instead of any hotkeys or alt-f4?
I only get the weird behavior when I exit with alt-f4

 

[Lettuce]

Is it true that the input lag has been decreased in recent builds?

Because I've just built up a full retro console RGB setup to my HDTV (full native RGB SCART input) and the difference in input lag is staggering.

Also depends on what TV you have and the input lag that TV introduces on top of what ever RA adds

 

[Rich!]

Also depends on what TV you have and the input lag that TV introduces on top of what ever RA adds

My current TV has the lowest out of any set I could find. It's a 55" LG, but its the closest I've ever experienced compared to a CRT. I have all of my retro consoles hooked up via the direct RGB SCART socket on the back of the LG HDTV, and there is significant lag on retroarch compared to it, using the same display.

 

[Radius4]

Ok, automatic shader loading ALA remaps and overrides is in
Just go to settings/configurations and enable the setting.

Then load a game, load the shader you want and then select the option to save a shader preset for the game or for the core and voila, should load automatically going forward.

 

[Knurek]

Does it happen with exit from the menu instead of any hotkeys or alt-f4?
I only get the weird behavior when I exit with alt-f4

Autosave is handled correctly only if you use the Quit option from the Retroarch menu.
Using Alt-F4 or Esc (or whatever key you configured for input_exit_emulator, input_exit_emulator_btn and input_exit_emulator_axis) does not save the state, which definitely wasn't the case earlier.

 

[nkarafo]

Yes overrides are those.
And btw I hope by tomorrow you won't need overrides for shaders, I am adding functionality to save and load presets per-core and per-game .

What if a core supports multiple systems and you need a different shader for each?

Edit: Shit. This update pretty much broke my Hyperspin/rocketlauncher setup once again.

 

[Radius4]

Are you Gemah from libretro forums?
Still no solution, there is no differentiation between system in RetroArch other than playlists.

 

[nkarafo]

Still no solution, there is no differentiation between system in RetroArch other than playlists.

But if the per-core option worked, why remove it completely? You said it was a hacky method, ok but it worked for those who wanted it. Now without it some people (including me) are stuck with older versions of RetroArch, no?

 

[Radius4]

There was no way to differentiate systems that a single core ran with the old method either so your argument is invalid