BigJonsson
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Umm is there gonna be a good one?
Cause the movie fucking rocked
Cause the movie fucking rocked
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keeblerdrow
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Phoenix said:
I think God of War solved that one.
IAmtheFMan
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Flippin Fantastic. The movie that is.
BigJonsson
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Remember to put all spoilers in the proper tags 
Phoenix
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BigJonsson said:Remember to put all spoilers in the proper tags
Okay, then I won't say anything about the Jedi sex rave that happens halfway through the movie after Yoda gets drunk and uses the force to remove the clothes from everyone.
"This way like it do you not..." was the last thing I remember hearing
IAmtheFMan
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My mini-review before I hit the hay:
Extremely tight film; moved along at a great pace, finally well acted (in some parts, very well,) and the dialogue while still clunky in some areas was nowhere near as bad as it was in TPM and Clones. There's an urgency to the events that happen in this one, and for the first time in the PT, you actually really CARE what happens to these characters.
Things that didn't quite work for me were:
Other than that, there were a few spotty areas here and there, but even the more intimate scenes b/t Anakin and Padme were nowhere near as cringe-worthy.
Mana was right. The good trilogy is 3,4,5.
Extremely tight film; moved along at a great pace, finally well acted (in some parts, very well,) and the dialogue while still clunky in some areas was nowhere near as bad as it was in TPM and Clones. There's an urgency to the events that happen in this one, and for the first time in the PT, you actually really CARE what happens to these characters.
Things that didn't quite work for me were:
Vader's "nooooo!" really was the only really awkward thing. The cutting of the Qui-Gon scene was tragic too. They need to put that in the DVD.
Mana was right. The good trilogy is 3,4,5.
I just got back from the 12:01 showing. The fandom there was intense, even moreso then EP1 and EP2. Tons and tons of people dressed up. They let us sit in the theater at around 9:30 instead of sitting outside so that was nice. People were having saber duels in the theater and running around acting crazing and screaming untill the movie started, it was tons of fun. They played the trailers for the other 5 movies over and over while we were waiting so it was cool, although when they played the trailer from EP1 and Obi -Wan screamed "NOOOOO!" when Qui-Gon dies and everyone in the theater screamed it to was kinda annoying because they did that everytime the trailer played, like 7 times. This one chick was dressed up like Jar Jar and these dudes with those fancy 200 dollar lightsabers were chasing her around and beating her. All in all, like I said, seeing the first showing with the hardcore fans is tons of fun.
The movie...errr....its not as good as everyone was hyping it up to be. I dont know. The final 20 minutes when Obi-Wan/Vader fight and Yoda/Palpatine fight is the greatest moment in any of the 6 movies. Alot of the other parts, especially the dialog scenes were either mediocre or incredibly cringe-worthy. The last part with the suited Vader coming off the operating table is TERRIBLE. The entire movie, except for the 2 final saber fights, felt incomplete and just poorly put together. Surprising, because playing the episode 3 game made it seem like it was going to flow together nicely and be terrific, but the movie is totally different and VERY dissapointing. THe battle on the Wookie planet is like....30 seconds. WTF. It seemed like it could have been awesome.
If not for the final fighting scenes, the movie would have really really sucked, Because this movie is NOT better then the other 5, infact alot of it is even worse. When Anakin goes all bad ass in the final duel its awesome and Hayden does a freaking amazing job. Some of the acting in this though is just hilariously bad. Maybe Lucas doesnt care anymore, but im surprised even he let this stuff get by and make it into the movie
The movie...errr....its not as good as everyone was hyping it up to be. I dont know. The final 20 minutes when Obi-Wan/Vader fight and Yoda/Palpatine fight is the greatest moment in any of the 6 movies. Alot of the other parts, especially the dialog scenes were either mediocre or incredibly cringe-worthy. The last part with the suited Vader coming off the operating table is TERRIBLE. The entire movie, except for the 2 final saber fights, felt incomplete and just poorly put together. Surprising, because playing the episode 3 game made it seem like it was going to flow together nicely and be terrific, but the movie is totally different and VERY dissapointing. THe battle on the Wookie planet is like....30 seconds. WTF. It seemed like it could have been awesome.
If not for the final fighting scenes, the movie would have really really sucked, Because this movie is NOT better then the other 5, infact alot of it is even worse. When Anakin goes all bad ass in the final duel its awesome and Hayden does a freaking amazing job. Some of the acting in this though is just hilariously bad. Maybe Lucas doesnt care anymore, but im surprised even he let this stuff get by and make it into the movie
Do The Mario
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AeroGod said:
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Phoenix
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AeroGod said:I just got back from the 12:01 showing. The fandom there was intense, even moreso then EP1 and EP2. Tons and tons of people dressed up. They let us sit in the theater at around 9:30 instead of sitting outside so that was nice. People were having saber duels in the theater and running around acting crazing and screaming untill the movie started, it was tons of fun. They played the trailers for the other 5 movies over and over while we were waiting so it was cool, although when they played the trailer from EP1 and Obi -Wan screamed "NOOOOO!" when Qui-Gon dies and everyone in the theater screamed it to was kinda annoying because they did that everytime the trailer played, like 7 times. This one chick was dressed up like Jar Jar and these dudes with those fancy 200 dollar lightsabers were chasing her around and beating her. All in all, like I said, seeing the first showing with the hardcore fans is tons of fun.
The movie...errr....its not as good as everyone was hyping it up to be. I dont know. The final 20 minutes when Obi-Wan/Vader fight and Yoda/Palpatine fight is the greatest moment in any of the 6 movies. Alot of the other parts, especially the dialog scenes were either mediocre or incredibly cringe-worthy. The last part with the suited Vader coming off the operating table is TERRIBLE. The entire movie, except for the 2 final saber fights, felt incomplete and just poorly put together. Surprising, because playing the episode 3 game made it seem like it was going to flow together nicely and be terrific, but the movie is totally different and VERY dissapointing. THe battle on the Wookie planet is like....30 seconds. WTF. It seemed like it could have been awesome.
If not for the final fighting scenes, the movie would have really really sucked, Because this movie is NOT better then the other 5, infact alot of it is even worse. When Anakin goes all bad ass in the final duel its awesome and Hayden does a freaking amazing job. Some of the acting in this though is just hilariously bad. Maybe Lucas doesnt care anymore, but im surprised even he let this stuff get by and make it into the movie
I'm not THAT far from your opinion. I think it was passable (B- material), but much of the stuff just seemed to cut to quickly for example:
The battle over Courescant just ended without warning - I was like, okay did the enemy leave or are they just hanging out in orbit. Is this fight even over. WTF just happened? Same thing with the wookie fight.
The movie is paced okay - and it hangs together well enough. I did care a good bit for some of the characters now:
but the funniest thing is that I cared more for some of the characters that didn't even have names, like some of the anoymous young jedi trying to escape the jedi temple. In all, that sequence just didn't flow very well. It just kinda 'jumped' to that.
There were some parts of the movie that were supposed to be really emotional and show the 'transition'
but overall the creation of Vader was another - uh okay - moment. perhaps because the acting was so bad in parts that you couldn't really see the flow into his need to go dark after helping darth sidious
Overall, much of the stuff that I really wanted to see ended VERY quickly - almost as if they ran out of special effects budget and a lot of the stuff that doesn't take hours to go through seemed to last an eternity. I mean is America that slow mentally that you have to keep beating people over the head with basic plot concepts?
AeroGod said:I just got back from the 12:01 showing. The fandom there was intense, even moreso then EP1 and EP2. Tons and tons of people dressed up. They let us sit in the theater at around 9:30 instead of sitting outside so that was nice. People were having saber duels in the theater and running around acting crazing and screaming untill the movie started, it was tons of fun. They played the trailers for the other 5 movies over and over while we were waiting so it was cool, although when they played the trailer from EP1 and Obi -Wan screamed "NOOOOO!" when Qui-Gon dies and everyone in the theater screamed it to was kinda annoying because they did that everytime the trailer played, like 7 times. This one chick was dressed up like Jar Jar and these dudes with those fancy 200 dollar lightsabers were chasing her around and beating her. All in all, like I said, seeing the first showing with the hardcore fans is tons of fun.
The movie...errr....its not as good as everyone was hyping it up to be. I dont know. The final 20 minutes when Obi-Wan/Vader fight and Yoda/Palpatine fight is the greatest moment in any of the 6 movies. Alot of the other parts, especially the dialog scenes were either mediocre or incredibly cringe-worthy. The last part with the suited Vader coming off the operating table is TERRIBLE. The entire movie, except for the 2 final saber fights, felt incomplete and just poorly put together. Surprising, because playing the episode 3 game made it seem like it was going to flow together nicely and be terrific, but the movie is totally different and VERY dissapointing. THe battle on the Wookie planet is like....30 seconds. WTF. It seemed like it could have been awesome.
If not for the final fighting scenes, the movie would have really really sucked, Because this movie is NOT better then the other 5, infact alot of it is even worse. When Anakin goes all bad ass in the final duel its awesome and Hayden does a freaking amazing job. Some of the acting in this though is just hilariously bad. Maybe Lucas doesnt care anymore, but im surprised even he let this stuff get by and make it into the movie
I couldn't disagree more. I'll elaborate soon enough.
I will say this :
Vader coming off the table and screaming Noooo! was pretty bad. And he looked like Frankenstein trying to walk with his legs
I still need some more time to digest, bbs.
The movie was WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better than the previous prequel films. To a ridiculous degree.
However,
Other than that, though, it's not a stretch at all to say it's the best Star Wars film since Empire Strikes Back.
Not that that's all that huge of an accomplishment or anything.
However,
the Vader "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" scene was laughably bad. I laughed out loud. My sister laughed out loud. Several other people in the theater did too. Just ridiculously awful to the point of parody.
Other than that, though, it's not a stretch at all to say it's the best Star Wars film since Empire Strikes Back.
Not that that's all that huge of an accomplishment or anything.
I thought the acting was horrendous. On several moments, the audience burst out laughing (basically every other time Anakin and Padme interact). There were also a couple of really odd scenes that didn't seem right, like the Vadar scene and the part right after Mace dies (the emperor's unveling, I guess). Finally, the movie, if anything, was paced a little too fast. Emotional moments just never had a chance to set it....it was immediately off to the next scene. All that coupled with the standard poor script writing (no hints of subtlety whatsoever) made the movie a mile dissapointment.
The lightsaber duels, the big battles, the Jedi hunt, Yoda, Grievous, and Obi Wan all kicked ass, though.
The lightsaber duels, the big battles, the Jedi hunt, Yoda, Grievous, and Obi Wan all kicked ass, though.
Just saw the movie.
In my opinion, Lucas hit it out of the park. And I'm no apologist either.
It wasn't perfect, but it was close
But overall, I felt the movie hit all the right notes, and hit them powerfully. The relationship between Anakin and Padme felt much more natural, except for the aforementioned moment.
In my opinion, Lucas hit it out of the park. And I'm no apologist either.
It wasn't perfect, but it was close
the line of "it's only because I'm so in love, etc" was lame", and Palpy was definitely overracted in a few spots
But overall, I felt the movie hit all the right notes, and hit them powerfully. The relationship between Anakin and Padme felt much more natural, except for the aforementioned moment.
I dont know how you could say this is the best star wars film or even close to it. The acting and dialog were not good, the big battles were short and unimpressive
Yoda was awesome in everything he did, and the final saber duels are amazingly awesome. The ending, apart from Vader getting off the operation table was cool.
What else was there? Alot of poor scenes of Anakin/Padme and Palpatine telling Anakin about the dark side, which was nothing amazing. Then lots of shots of Anakin walking around menacingly and looking evil. There were alot of stupid scenes, due mostly to the bad dialog.
Im fine with bad dialog, as long as everything goes together and they have bad ass action. Episode 3 didnt have that, apart from the awesome ending fights.
The Battle over Coruscant is The two jedi going though a gauntlet of ships and 5 fighters untill they get to Dooku's ship, the battle of Utapuu is like a few select snippets of action and Obiwan vs Grevious, the wookie battle was like 30 seconds. Then you have the montage shots of the Clones killing the Jedi. That was okay. Mace Windu went down like a bitch, and the entire scene where he and Palapatine trade off the lightning blast was "LOL" retarded and the dialog was stupid.
Yoda was awesome in everything he did, and the final saber duels are amazingly awesome. The ending, apart from Vader getting off the operation table was cool.
What else was there? Alot of poor scenes of Anakin/Padme and Palpatine telling Anakin about the dark side, which was nothing amazing. Then lots of shots of Anakin walking around menacingly and looking evil. There were alot of stupid scenes, due mostly to the bad dialog.
Im fine with bad dialog, as long as everything goes together and they have bad ass action. Episode 3 didnt have that, apart from the awesome ending fights.
Im not a star wars hater. I like all the other movies, but this one felt way to fast and very unimpressive. I had high expectations, but according to early veiws those were going ot be met. There were some awesome parts. The Anakin/Obiwan duel was the best part out of any of the 6 movies. THis movie lacked in areas though. Lucas loaded it up with dialog and story which he sucks at doing, and skimmped on the big battles, which he is awesome at doing.
Better than other prequels. Still can't touch anything from the original trilogy. Action sequences are tiresome, bloated CG jerkoffs, almost all lightsaber fights are horribly shot.
Dialogue is awful.....arguably worse than EP1 and EP2 in many parts, particularly the way it ruins moments that are supposed to be powerful.
Dialogue is awful.....arguably worse than EP1 and EP2 in many parts, particularly the way it ruins moments that are supposed to be powerful.
This is definitely tied with Empire Strikes Back for my favorite SW movie. If the beginning wasn't so blah, then it might be even higher.
I also thought the Padme/Anakin scenes, while slightly melodramatic, were done much better.
Honestly though, it's ALL about the scene before the final fight and the scene at the very end.
I think the only parts I didn't enjoy too much was the beginning (acting was off, and I just wasn't feeling it) and some of palpatine's lines/acting...
I also thought the Padme/Anakin scenes, while slightly melodramatic, were done much better.
Honestly though, it's ALL about the scene before the final fight and the scene at the very end.
I loved both Padme, Anakin and Obi-wan in those scenes. The acting was their best yet in the trilogy at that moment
I think the only parts I didn't enjoy too much was the beginning (acting was off, and I just wasn't feeling it) and some of palpatine's lines/acting...
mainly just 2 scenes bothered, when mace windu is about to kill him and during the rescue, otherwise, he was completly amazing! Especially during the seduction scenes
Cold-Steel
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Parts where people laughed in my theatre:
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Parts where people cheered:
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I think most people liked it. I enjoyed it a lot.
George came this close to Empire.
I will say, that I think Empire is still the best of the six.
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Shortly after Palpatine blasts Windu out of the window and appoints Anakin as Darth Vader had people cracking up. His voice, his looks, even I couldn't help it.
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Anything involving R2-D2 was actually quite funny.
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Obi-Wan standing in Padme's ship with his fists on his waist was so corny looking.
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Palps is about to "get it" from Windu and he's trying to convince Anakin to let him live. Couldn't help laughing at how lame it seemed.
Parts where people cheered:
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When Yoda totally knocked the Emperor on his face.
I think most people liked it. I enjoyed it a lot.
George came this close to Empire.
I will say, that I think Empire is still the best of the six.
Cold-Steel
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DMczaf said:
I think everyone, in every theatre gasped when
Obi-Wan sliced Anakin's limbs off.
combust into flames either, which drew a big "OMGWTF" from everyone, in a good way.
That part was fucking cool.
DJ_Tet said:
I watched movies in the last twenty years, ya know, "without the atrocious dialogue, obtuse political rhetoric spilling out of George Lucas ass, awkward, totally chemical-free romance, soulless special effects fellating without any regard for actual quality or character control (jumping around like god-damned lunatics)"
But hey, man. It's cool. I realize it's, like, totally an event for Star Wars fanatics. No harm, no foul.
DJ_Tet said:
ok, so have i... (fan POV, no) but that doesn't change the point that EP 1 and 2 were fucking horrible. It's only worse because it's packaged under a hundred million dollar budget, trying to blind people with played up special effects and fully CG jar jar binks. Which, might I add, thankfully backfired.
DJ_Tet said:
the other list of things that were wrong was pretty off putting as well!
Amir0x said:
I don't think so, Dooku
Why don't you give a review of what you liked and didn't like?
It would help the discussion a lot better than what you are presenting so far.
I didn't know we were discussing the first two episodes, but if we are, Ep III made them a lot better. I'll explain tomorrow, I know you'll be waiting
Go ahead, go first. What would you have changed? How would have you have done it better?
Don't get me wrong, I have some areas I'd like to change as well.
I want some specifics, so do the rest of the people watching this thread. So go ahead. Tell us what your Ep III would contain.
DJ_Tet said:I don't think so, Dooku
Why don't you give a review of what you liked and didn't like?
It would help the discussion a lot better than what you are presenting so far.
I didn't know we were discussing the first two episodes, but if we are, Ep III made them a lot better. I'll explain tomorrow, I know you'll be waiting
Go ahead, go first. What would you have changed? How would have you have done it better?
Don't get me wrong, I have some areas I'd like to change as well.
I want some specifics, so do the rest of the people watching this thread. So go ahead. Tell us what your Ep III would contain.
Do you speak for the rest of the people of this thread? I think it seems like you're shocked that you liked this film so much and that there's another person who hates it, because it sucks.
I already described why I disliked it. We had quite the engaging discussion on it early this morning in the chat; filled with plenty of specifics and then some. But I already told you what was bad, and there's PLENTY of specifics. The worst offender, obviously, is the across the board terrible acting - Anakin and Padme had ZERO chemistry, with terribly awkward lines of dialogue and the most unsubtle translation from "light" to "dark" imaginable. You can pretty much paint each film with large strokes and be entirely accurate in how each one portrayed the various "stages" of his progress. As said, dialogue is awful. AWFUL. I mean, there's lines so bad I have to digest them all. Goon remembered one, and it's so bad it has to be repeated by me:
"Obi-Wan can't save you Padmé, only my new powers can!"
<Obiwan> WHAT ABOUT DEMOCRACY
And then, of course, the fact that Lucas has zero controls over his actors. Maybe it's because the writing is so bad none of them can take it seriously, but they are consistently off-tone, they seem to temporarily lose the ability to emote properly and the majority of the time they sound like stupid, whiny bitches (especially Anakin). Lucas uses special effects to cover up the fact that he has no talent, but it doesn't work - most of the time even his special effects fights are poorly choreographed or horribly cut
like the Obi vs. Anakin fight
But hey, like you said, you're not trying to change my mind. The whole "Episode III made Episode I and II better" is just up in the clouds day dreaming, a wish for better days when Lucas didn't set out to destroy carefully orchestrated childhood dreams.
galeninjapan
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Episode 3 is a funny thing. Most reviews I have read (both positive and negative) have said the dialogue is bad and generally the movie isnt that great. However, allot of the positive reviews gave George a thumbs up for completing the trilogy on a higher note than the other prequels. I haven't seen the movie; I will see it soon, but the amount of CGI from the many scenes I have seen added with the horrible dialogue I have heard just make for bad immersion and crappy characters. It's a shame. I saw episode one 3 times the very first day and five times total. I used to be one of the biggest Star Wars fans ever and now I just dont care. I will always have the original trilogy which is some of the best movie making ever. I have yet to watch TPM or AOTC since I saw them in the theatre and I intend to keep it that way. The magic just wasnt there.
galeninjapan
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Amir0x said:
It's actually too much control over his actors.
I have a funny story that one of the camera men from TPM told me. On the set of TPM Liam Neeson and Ewan had great chemistry going for a scene they were filming. The camera man said that George got mad that they werent "acting" the way they wanted and George got mad and said "Just walk from here to there and say your lines!"
Some director he is. You can only control so much of your actors before you have to let them do things naturally.
Amir0x said:
I speak for no one but myself. I appreciate your input, and I will address your points tomorrow.
I'm not "in chat" and this board doesn't "document chat." I thank you for your well-thought out discussion points, especially since you've covered it all "in chat."
As you've already surmised, I disagree with your points, however, I appreciate your input. Not everyone "chats." Some of us like more concrete inputs, and thanks for yours.
Amir0x said:
I wish I could have gotten a drink. I got to the theatre at 11 and the line for concessions was ungodly. I went without.
I don't know what you are trying to prove, but you've laid your opinion into this thread. It's documented, unlike your thoughts in chat. I respect your views, however wrong they are.
Please let other views speak their mind in this thread.