Revisiting Dragon Age: The Veilguard - one year on, how have our thoughts changed

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My feelings towards Veilguard are still the same. Didn't buy it and won't ever
 
Why do we need to revisit this game at all. Even the people who did play it have moved on. There are 40 million people currently playing on Steam, of them 683 people currently playing this game.
 
No, because it's still called Dragon Age and its RPG core elements still suck and companion interaction still feels like babysitting and """puzzles""" are still for braindead people.
 
No my thoughts haven't changed. Awful game. Awful Dragon Age game. Completely shits on the lore and the plot elements of previous games. Embarassing and meme-worthy dialogue. I haven't played it but I've seen most of the clips.

Also whoever told me Mortismal Gaming is a "real one" when it comes to RPGs can get fucked. That dude rating Veilguard higher than Origins wouldn't know a good rpg if it crawled up his ass.
 
It was a good looking game with a good gameplay, but for anybody invested in the plot, lore and characters of Dragon Age, it was devastating

To me, to be fair, it was entertaining and I laughed quite a lot for some of their awful choices... so I can say that the time spent (and the platinum) was worth it
 
A year ago I thought "that looks like a proper bunch of bollocks, I'm not playing that" but after a year I've come to think "that is a proper bunch of bollocks, I'm not playing that", so while my thoughts of the game have changed somewhat, the outcome hasn't.
 
I would like to play it just to see how they have concluded the Solas storyline.

But then I look at the game and I'm not sure I'm able to suffer all of that just for Solas.
 
Never played the original first two, I'm too young for those lol.

I did bite and got this very cheap, 10 hours later I just lost interest and uninstalled.

- great optimisation, looks great and runs smoothly
- kinda believable world ( the environments/atmosphere) carry it
- combat is alright, it's fun and quick but bland and boring after a few hours. Not too much depth.
- dialogue is atrociously bad. I simple fail to understand how it's relevant to the world, the dialogue works if this was a teen drama set in LA. It just doesn't match. This game has worse dialogue than Forspoken or Immortals Aveum.
- you can skip all the annoying cutscenes! Nothing needed to understand the story.
- character models are a mix bag, like they are trying to look good but also ugly as fuck.
- music is excellent, Hans Zimmer cooked but not as good as Inquisition

Honestly if you're looking for a very optimised, good looking fantasy RPG I recommend at a steep discount. It's premium slop.

I also think the LGBTQ representation is overblown and cherry picked to mislead the public. That whole Taash shit cutscenes can be skipped.

BioWare and Dragon Age always had LGBTQ stuff. Honestly I don't see any AAA do this properly, I can just think of a few games that nail this, Celeste is does this perfectly, SIGNALIS as well. Maybe BG3 but I haven't played it.
 
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Everything about the game was gay-coded. I hope the LGBT+++++ crowd enjoyed it, because it was clearly made with them as the primary audience.

With that said, it had *really* great hair tech. I hope that manages to live on in some way.
 
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And what a surprise, after AGAIN deleting comments that he didn't like, the Eurogamer child has now put pre-approval on, just in case a nasty person posts something when he's not there watching the comments like he has been all day. :pie_eyeroll:
 
Feeling hasn't changed, and if anything more people over time that tried to glaze this game into success I see admitting online it was always mediocre at best, and inferior to the previous entries.

Just for fun, I looked up SteamDB concurrent player charts for Origins, Inquisition & Veilguard.

Origins had a 24-hour peak of 399, Inquisition had 536, and Veilguard had 881. 2 games over a decade old...that released on other platforms at launch before going to Steam later...are putting out numbers of about half to 60 percent of the newest entry that came out at launch on Steam 1 year ago being pushed by outlets as Bioware's "return to form"TM. That's how little staying power and continued interest this new entry has, and I expect in another year they'll slip below these older entries.
 
Put 70+ hours into it and got the Plat as I said in the Baldur's Gayte 3 thread.

I thought it would be so fucking bad I wouldn't even wipe my ass with the PS5 cover art. It was like... Average? There was actual loot but the RPG elements were weak outside of narrative and decision making. The combat was fun but shallow-ish, I played on Normal and it only felt difficult if enemies were higher level than you, like only that mattered.

All the characters take it in the ass but I liked the John Waters Necromancer, anyone female who romanced him definitely wanted to know what it feels like to know your man has a Grindr account. I actually liked Taash too tbh, the handling of her being NB is handled so badly with zero subtlety but she was 100% inspired by Abby from TLOU Part II. I watched that Patrick Weekes or whatever speak about how he writes characters and he'll take an existing one he likes and model them into a Dragon Age character.

Story was okay-ish to follow, I wasn't overly invested and it wasn't exactly new, typical BioWare shit I've seen since I played KotoR when I was like 13. Was surprised at that one choice late game where one of two characters can die.

Had more fun with it than I did with Dragon Age: Origins in 2010 which already felt like extremely corny dark fantasy, I read Berserk already bro. Battle system and visual style of that game was complete trash even back then.
 
I also remember how so many fucking outlet parroted the same exact line "return to form" while glaizing the game. And then many of them waited like 3 weeks to give real criticisms in an article and not in a review.

Now... if you don't believe that many reviewers get marching order PR lines from their connections at the dev/pub level, I don't know what else could convince you.

Veilguard could be the most obvious example in recent memory.
 
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Plague Doctor said:
I also remember how so many fucking outlet parroted the same exact line "return to form" while glaizing the game. And then many of them waited like 3 weeks to give real criticisms in an article and not in a review.

Now... if you don't believe that many reviewers get marching order PR lines from their connections at the dev/pub level, I don't know what else could convince you.

Veilguard could be the most obvious example in recent memory.
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Yup. I also remember all the astroturf bot comments on Youtube gushing about how you can pet the cats and play rock paper scissors with the skeleton guy.

Also they flew out lots of "journalists" on vacation for some big preview event, then sent review codes only to the ones that seemed like they'd give it the highest scores based on their preview coverage. Skill Up did a video about it I believe.

They tried so fucking hard to make this piece of shit into a hit.
 
Rocinante618 said:
- dialogue is atrociously bad. I simple fail to understand how it's relevant to the world, the dialogue works if this was a teen drama set in LA. It just doesn't match. This game has worse dialogue than Forspoken or Immortals Aveum.
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That's because most of the LQBTG people in media skew young and bratty. Just look at the wild social media tweets we've seen over the years from gaming employees that are obvious lefties. These arent 50+ year olds. Most seem in their 20s or maybe early 30s.

So what you'll get are plotlines which are one part LBTGQ and one part Dawson's Creek, with zero awareness it's in a medieval RPG setting.
 
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Since it is in gamepass I am still weirdly tempted to try it for the graphics, but then I remember barving and non-binary and I just can't do it, man.
 
What they did to Dragon Age, coming from origins upto this abomination alone made me completely lose faith in them, this was on of my favorite RPGs. The brutal tone, atmosphere, writing, strategic gameplay, and music were amazing, and instead of building on it they slowly dismantled it bit by bit. I still liked Inquisition and had lower expectations, but this was just brutal. It didn't help that Mass Effect 3 was such a terrible finale, and Andromeda was something we all learned to forget. Honestly, even as a past massive BioWare fan, I can't really defend them having their heads on the chopping block. They worked hard for it, and I'm no longer going to pretend I would be disappointed.
 
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