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Revolution Controller Revealed
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Chibbi Brady
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I'm pretty hopefull that we'll see the return of Luigi's Mansion. It's perfectly suited for the new control method and the addition of multiplayer could really add to the game, as long as you don't cross the streams though. 
gamergirly
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maharg said:
Im leaning toward the console costing more than Gamecube anyway. Inflation is one thing, but also the fact that Rev will be a more powerful and unique system. Everything is not going to be cheap that's included in the console.
In any case, Nintendo isnt including all of the optional devices and hardware that Sony and MS are going to have in their systems. Therefore, why are Revolution buyers going to pay out of our teeth like other system buyers will have to in their first year when it's not included? You want all of the optional equipment like headsets, online gaming cards, and BluRay technologies, then youre going to pay extra for it.
There's no important reason for a person to associate the costs between the 3 systems, when we all know that one is going to be significantly cheaper than the other 2. Youre going to be able to buy much more for Rev than you could with Xbox360 and PS3. I plan on buying PS3 and Rev, but Im very aware that PS3 will cost much more than Rev will. Which is probably why Rev will be bought first. And $60 games? If it's not Zelda or the most own title of the year among the majority's consensus, then it's discount buyer retailers for me
.You dont expand the industry by beefing up prices on everything you can. If Nintendo can find a way to find a balance between prices and consumer needs, then Rev will automatically win over many budget gamers. After all, it's the average Joe casuals that determine whether a console will succeed or fail, not the hardcore with flashy gold rings and $10,000 brand new cars to spend $$$$ on high-end pricey gaming mechanisms.
A PS3 price of $500 is not extremely unlikely, but it is unlikely, since Sony has released Playstation and Playstation 2 $100 under the manufacturing price. So a $400 is the likeliest pricetag in this case, since the manufacturing price of the PS3 is approx. $500 (as estimated by Merrill Lynch).maharg said:
I have absolutely no frikkin' clue by what you mean with inflation, Nintendo consoles have always been $200, never higher. Seeing as how Nintendo puts plenty of emphasis on having a cheap, affordable console, one would only conclude that it is more likely that the price of the Revolution will be $200, or lower than $200, not higher than $200.
This is me applying common sense here, not me getting my hopes up.
What I mean 'with inflation' is that what is cheap and affordable is relative to time. In order to be the budget console, Nintendo has to be priced less than the alternatives. $200 is not some magical eternal price point from which Nintendo shalt never deviate, and the fact that Nintendo has just released a handheld for $150 -- no matter what you think of the hardware in it (more likely they think the percieved value of the new control mechanism is higher -- wow, does that sound familiar?) -- should tell you that there is no such thing as an eternal price point.
And yes, you are hoping here. Just like Sony fans who say Sony will never go above $300 (same justification, I might add. They have 2 points on their trend line and you have 4. It's not a huge difference) and xbox fans who felt likewise. Expecting the price of something of relatively the same consumer value to stay the same over time is economically unfeasable.
And yes, you are hoping here. Just like Sony fans who say Sony will never go above $300 (same justification, I might add. They have 2 points on their trend line and you have 4. It's not a huge difference) and xbox fans who felt likewise. Expecting the price of something of relatively the same consumer value to stay the same over time is economically unfeasable.
JoshuaJSlone
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But do you really think that, if Nintendo keeps releasing home hardware for the indefinite future, it will always be $200 or less? If not, then it's just a matter of when the change will occur. As has already been mentioned, N64 came pretty close.Ruzbeh said:
Since they register movements in X, Y, Z space (AFAIK) and send them to the Revolution (a computer), what do you think? Man. :lolGahiggidy said:
They are probably wired... I don't see how they are wireless, it would be a pain in the ass to use batteries, and they are probably wired to the Revolution as well to send data... or maybe bluetooth... I dunno.
Gahiggidy
My aunt & uncle run a Mom & Pop store, "The Gamecube Hut", and sold 80k WiiU within minutes of opening.
Why do they have to be electronic? For all we know they are just reference points for the remote to pick up on. Two points in space that allow the remote to register its relative position.
This thing is called a "sensor bar" but it could be that the remote is the one doing the sensing and not vice versa.
This thing is called a "sensor bar" but it could be that the remote is the one doing the sensing and not vice versa.
For them to be sensed, they must do something that can be sensed. The only obvious things are their visual appearance, which would require the remote to have a full blown camera and for it to basically do eye-toy style processing on the images produced by it, or a magnet, in which case it'd be stupid to put it on top of your TV if it had to be powerful enough to be detected 8 feet away.
PkunkFury
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Gahiggidy said:
It is possible that the sensor bar is just two retroreflective markes strapped to a pole, like the little balls you see people wearing in mo-cap suits. In this situation though, the remote would need to house all of the sensing equipment. Also, the remotes would have a nasty habit of identifying other household stuff with retroreflective material (like gym shoes) as the target markers, causing bad readings. If the remotes are indeed detecting the sensors, I hope they are using something a little better than retroreflective tape.
Anyway, it could be what is going on, we won't really know anything else about how the sensors work until we see them
Luigi's Mansion was a piece of crap. The worst piece of crap to come out of Nintendo ever since... Yoshi's Story 64. The fact that somepeople want to see this shell of a game for Revolution disgusts me.
The possibilities are almost endless here, and some of you want Luigi's Mansion?
BARF
The possibilities are almost endless here, and some of you want Luigi's Mansion?
BARF
Suburban Cowboy
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anyone remember what broken saints claimed the controller would be a few months back? i remember even ign posted the rumor...
gamergirly
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Just wanted to say goodbye to one of the best threads eVAR
Gaia Theory
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Stereoscopic 3D, that's what Brooke Burke said.Suburban Cowboy said:
Frankly, it's still a possibility. Nintendo has said that the unveiling of Revolution is like a puzzle, we'll be shown separate puzzle pieces until we finally have the full picture.
Some form of stereoscopic ability isn't out of the question. If the Revolution hardware is capable of splitting image signals that are displayed in separate layers on a tv, the only extra hardware that you would need are a pair of polarized glasses (which could be made to be extremely cheap, middle of the road, or high end). [edit]Of course, a 3d visor peripheral that attaches to or is separate from the Revolution controller is also a possibility.[/edit]
While I doubt we'll be seeing stereoscopic games anytime soon, with the advent of 3D hitting hollywood and a theatre near you by 2007, it will eventually makes its way to gaming.
MadOdorMachine
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I completely agree Gaia. There's plenty of evidence to support it. We know Nintendo has been in talks with eMagin and Jim Merrik? hinted at TGS that there were more suprises left for Revolution. The controller would work very well in VR. There is one problem with just using the pointer alone for playing games, and that's camera control. One solution would be a visor. Does anyone have a link to the patent for that new camera system? I think it had pictures of dinosuars with arrows pointing to a TV.
I'm ruling out stereoscopic stuff because Nintendo just doesn't want it. Nintendo wants non-gamers and stuff. They're getting it with the remote. Why does Nintendo want stereoscopic stuff? To regain the hardcore fans? Nope, you do that with a good library of games. So why would they need it? They don't, so Nintendo shouldn't invest in it and I don't think they are.
Ruzbeh said:Laugh all you want, but it's going to be like this some day.
Then that would mean Nintendo has succeeded in making the Revolution's controller the "standard" in the industry... it'd be similar to the Nintendo 64 controller's analog stick, which Sony copied (and added a second stick as well).
gamergirly
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Tamashii said:
Perhaps, depends on what rights Nintendo has secured. It's not like a regular convential controller where you can just add one tool to it, so PS3's version could end up looking radically different to keep from being illegal.
Maybe a combination of Boomerangs and Remotes?
Gaia Theory
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I agree. Nintendo obviously has an interest in developing new ways to interact with games, and also has an interest (however slight) to look at stereoscopic games (IE VIRTUAL BOY, eMAGIN).Chrono said:
None of this means that we will ever see Nintendo deliver a retail product as such, but it does tend to give room for speculation. There is something to base said speculation on. I would love to see stereoscopic games on Revolution (or any console this upcoming gen for that matter), but I tend to believe that we will have to wait until Hollywood has blazed a trail in that market.
I don't see why the game industry can't beat them to the punch, but I think we'll be following hollywood's lead on this one.
MadOdorMachine
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The same could be said about Gyration and look what happened. Nintendo experimented with tilt technology for awhile and now they're putting it all on the line saying this is it. This is where we think the future of game control is. Don't forget that they've been experimenting around with VR headsets and other forms of 3D for awhile now too. The new controller is made for a VR headset. I'm not saying it's going to come with the system, but I could definately see it being an add on device.Chrono said:
On another note. Remember that video of Mario 28 that was shown when GC was first shown? It had 128 Marios flipping around in a skillet like fried rice. It seems even back then they wanted to do something like this.
HeadsUpSevenUp
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A Photoshop of two people fighting, one with Rev 'chucks and one with PS3 Batarang would be AWESOME!
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