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[Cyberpunkd]

It's a nice device which has a lot of hype in "hardcore" gaming circles but it's market relevance and significance is basically zero in the greater gaming market

Steam doesn't have a relevance in the gaming market? Because Steam Deck is just Steam in portable form.

 

[Topher]

Valve made a significant mistake by going with what is essentially a Radeon 7600 8GB.
AMD already is selling to AIBs the Radeon 9060 8GB, non-XT.
And this GPU has so many advantages. Two of which are very important. One is the ability to use FSR4 FP8. Which results in better performance and better image quality.
The other is that it has 16 lanes of PCIe Gen5, compared to only 8X on the 7600. Which helps a lot in mitigating the lack of vram, resulting in much better performance an fewer issues with stutters.
And then it has better RT performance, better delta color compression, much better AI cores, etc.
It could be slightly more expensive, but it would be a more future proof GPU.

Bet ram prices are making them cut back the gpu. Going to be interesting to see benchmarks next year. If it doesn't hit 4k 60 on games like God of War then the appeal is going to be limited to desktop PC use where 1080p is more common. This thing wasn't going to get a lot of living room converts anyway, but if there is no price advantage then not sure what the point is at all.

 

[roosnam1980]

why did they bother with ddr5 based am5 CPU ? should have been am4 based with ddr4 and a beefier GPU imo

 

[The Mad Draklor]

Valve made a significant mistake by going with what is essentially a Radeon 7600 8GB.
AMD already is selling to AIBs the Radeon 9060 8GB, non-XT.
And this GPU has so many advantages. Two of which are very important. One is the ability to use FSR4 FP8. Which results in better performance and better image quality.
The other is that it has 16 lanes of PCIe Gen5, compared to only 8X on the 7600. Which helps a lot in mitigating the lack of vram, resulting in much better performance an fewer issues with stutters.
And then it has better RT performance, better delta color compression, much better AI cores, etc.
It could be slightly more expensive, but it would be a more future proof GPU.

Maybe Valve inquired to AMD about putting a Radeon 9060 8G in the Steam Machine, but found out that it would be too expensive. The GPU in the Steam Machine is a cut-down Radeon 7600 that would have never seen the light of day, so I assume AMD offered it for a nice discount.

Maybe down the line, once there are plenty of failed Radeon 9060 chips, Valve can use those for a Steam Machine "Pro".

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

Own own VGEsoterica :



-CPU wise punches above PS5, Series S and Series X (well he specifically says PS5 in the vid but the Xbox CPUs are marginally faster at best and Steam Machine's CPU should clear all)

-Would've hoped for at least 12 GB VRAM but feels 8 GB is perfectly fine for what Valve are aiming for

-Feels it'll be the perfect emulation box thanks both to the specs and it being fully optimized for SteamOS; feels very confident in this as he's tested many emulation setups (including CPU-intensive stuff like Hyper Neo Geo 64) on various Linux boxes over the years

Very optimistic overall; like the rest of us just waiting on that price reveal.

 

[Bry0]

Maybe Valve inquired to AMD about putting a Radeon 9060 8G in the Steam Machine, but found out that it would be too expensive. The GPU in the Steam Machine is a cut-down Radeon 7600 that would have never seen the light of day, so I assume AMD offered it for a nice discount.

Maybe down the line, once there are plenty of failed Radeon 9060 chips, Valve can use those for a Steam Machine "Pro".

Yes it's cost. These are the parts bin last gen laptop parts. Bad yields of cheap laptop parts that AMD would like to move. It's 100% about cost. Valve is not doing any of the type of volume to justify custom silicon development.