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[FF:Enhanced_Reality]

That's XBOX taking another slap then lol

 

[GHG]

HDMI 2.0 ONLY WTF

This mean you can't do 4k 120 HDR , only 4k 60 HDR and on top of that it's going to be 8bit instead of 10bit so colors will look like crap , this machine is a downgrade not an upgrade

You can and it's spec equivalent to 2.1, it appears to be a certification issue.

DF discussed this in a section of their coverage but it has 4k 120 HDR, vrr, etc. The only thing it won't do at launch is 4k 165hz, but apparently they are working on it.

 

[seb85]

"For those of you with high end displays we have a connection for you. It's called display port 1.4"

Which you can use with an hdmi 2.1 adapter.

I don't think the Steam Machine is meant for power gamers who have the best hardware available and game at 4K120fps regularly. It's aimed more for someone like me, a PC gamer who has a five year old PC rocking a 3060Ti who games at 1080/1440 and 60fps. Its for someone who wants to plug it into their TV and play modest Steam games to relax with very little fuss, not play Cyberpunk or the very newest high end games in 4K120.

There is absolutely zero reason for this not to have HDMI 2.1 specially that it's aimed for the living room and most of the tvs have HDMI 2.1 , now I understand it can still hit 4k 120 and do vrr but it's a downgrade when it comes to HDR , even PS5 and series x a 5 years old hardware have HDMI 2.1

 

[MisterXDTV]

, even PS5 and series x a 5 years old hardware have HDMI 2.1

Also Series S, that is much weaker than this machine, LOL

And DisplayPort is absolutely useless if you want to connect a device to a TV, as no TV has DP inputs

 

[Miyazaki’s Slave]

There is absolutely zero reason for this not to have HDMI 2.1 specially that it's aimed for the living room and most of the tvs have HDMI 2.1 , now I understand it can still hit 4k 120 and do vrr but it's a downgrade when it comes to HDR , even PS5 and series x a 5 years old hardware have HDMI 2.1

The reason would be tied to power consumption (minor concern here...but still valid given thermal management in a small chassis), licensing costs, and internal player specs collected by valve (knowing what hardware players are using and what settings they are using while playing).

I have many qualms with Valve...understanding their targeted customer base however is not one of them.

 

[DirtInUrEye]

Pretty self-explanatory. Linux is not the OS you use for multiplayer gaming. If you want a PC console box for multiplayer get the next Xbox.

Hmm, that's a bit shit isn't it.

 

[Topher]

No way this is on par with base PS5

They are lucky though, because MS made the weak Series S and games still have to run on it for some time

It has a more powerful CPU and a slightly less powerful GPU than the PS5. It closer to the PS5 than the XSS.

 

[SegaSnatcher]

No way this is on par with base PS5

They are lucky though, because MS made the weak Series S and games still have to run on it for some time

Well its around an 8.8 TF RDNA 3 GPU and 6 core Zen 4 CPU. So the architecture advances might bring it up to par with PS5's Zen 2 + RDNA 2 architecure setup.

 

[MisterXDTV]

It has a more powerful CPU and a slightly less powerful GPU than the PS5. It closer to the PS5 than the XSS.

Yeah it's closer for sure, but not on par and you have keep in mind that PS5 has dedicated software, this runs generic PC software

 

[SegaSnatcher]

Yeah it's closer for sure, but not on par and you have keep in mind that PS5 has dedicated software, this runs generic PC software

Sure, its just a rough comparison, not 1:1. This thing is DOA if its over $499.99.

 

[purvispisgah]

Getting a little too ahead here. What Microsoft really does not want to happen is mainstream OEMs selling PCs with SteamOS pre-installed at a lower price than their Windows counterparts. The average person doesn't want any part of DIY installing an OS and will just stick with whatever is pre-installed.

This is absolutely correct and would be a large competitor to both MS (not getting their Windows license fee) and Sony (would be a true console competitor and could be marketed as such).

 

[Roufianos]

Would have been interested if it was powerful but cool I guess.

 

[SyberWolf]

so have they released the official new desktop steamos build yet?
or is that coming next year?

 

[Kacho]

Hmm, that's a bit shit isn't it.

Yeah, it's a shame if that's the experience you're looking for. It's the biggest downside of SteamOS/Linux.

 

[Sephimoth]

New contenders to the 'console' scene make their mark with a big hitter game.
So... HL3 when?

 

[Sephiran]

Yup, and they're releasing their games on the rival's machine… lmao. Way to go, Sony.

Sony is busy seeing Nintendo (Which doesn't threaten them at all) as a rival while they port everything to Steam to please Gabe Newell, without getting any of Valve's games like the upcoming Half Life 3 in return.

 

[ReasonBeing]

DF dropped the Frame review now.

Hands on impression from a short time with the device. I wouldn't call it a review.

 

[Topher]

Yeah it's closer for sure, but not on par and you have keep in mind that PS5 has dedicated software, this runs generic PC software

Not on par, but the difference between SM and PS5 is the same as the difference between PS5 and XSX. And it is based on newer architecture so better efficiency. We will have to wait on benchmarks for real comparisons.

 

[Mister Wolf]

Sure, its just a rough comparison, not 1:1. This thing is DOA if its over $499.99.

They'll try to Valve Tax like they're Apple.