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Rick and Morty Season 5 Premiere on Youtube
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eyesabitdull
Banned
So, uh, idk about you guys.
But I watched episode 4.....and episode 7.
There's a leak, so go find it and have it.
https://comicbook.com/anime/news/ri...k-online-episode-7-releases-early-adult-swim/
But I watched episode 4.....and episode 7.
There's a leak, so go find it and have it.
https://comicbook.com/anime/news/ri...k-online-episode-7-releases-early-adult-swim/
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CliffyB's Cock Holster
Ep 7 is pretty weak also.
What's getting increasingly obvious is Dan Harmon's creative limitations/preoccupations. Way too many episodes over the last few seasons are basically riffs on the same genre pastiches/spoofs that were all done first in Community. Worse, the trouble is they simply aren't as fun as their fore-runners, its the same gags just amped up to the max in terms of mayhem and nihilism. Its not cute, and being so familiar if you've seen Harmon's past work, not particularly clever either.
I get no pleasure being down on the show, but, this season feels weak and derivative, and sourly mean-spirited. I fully expect a Hannibal/Zodiac riff and a paintball special at this rate.
What's getting increasingly obvious is Dan Harmon's creative limitations/preoccupations. Way too many episodes over the last few seasons are basically riffs on the same genre pastiches/spoofs that were all done first in Community. Worse, the trouble is they simply aren't as fun as their fore-runners, its the same gags just amped up to the max in terms of mayhem and nihilism. Its not cute, and being so familiar if you've seen Harmon's past work, not particularly clever either.
I get no pleasure being down on the show, but, this season feels weak and derivative, and sourly mean-spirited. I fully expect a Hannibal/Zodiac riff and a paintball special at this rate.
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CliffyB's Cock Holster
A big problem is that they aren't really building characters anymore; all we get in place of that is a supporting cast member being an asshole for a week!
This is a big issue because that should be Rick's role. They managed to create pathos in earlier episodes because either Rick showing signs of human weakness (Auto-Erotic Assimilation) or Morty having his innocence crushed (pick an ep really, but Rick Potion #9 is a great example of this), but this season its falling really flat.
The end of the Planetina episode made this stand out for me. I mean, are we really supposed to give a shit about any of these characters anymore? And if not, why bother trying to build sympathy up for an emotional ending?
There needs to be a "voice of reason" to counterpoint all the crazyness and nihilism, a Bird-Person or Mr Poopybutthole who not only were viably comic creations, but served as dramatic and moral foils. They need that now especially as they've pretty comprehensively torched every member of the Smith family. Most notably Beth and Summer who when they get given any sort of character agency are shown to be just as bad as Rick but without his self-awareness and exposure to the chaos of the multiverse.
This is a big issue because that should be Rick's role. They managed to create pathos in earlier episodes because either Rick showing signs of human weakness (Auto-Erotic Assimilation) or Morty having his innocence crushed (pick an ep really, but Rick Potion #9 is a great example of this), but this season its falling really flat.
The end of the Planetina episode made this stand out for me. I mean, are we really supposed to give a shit about any of these characters anymore? And if not, why bother trying to build sympathy up for an emotional ending?
There needs to be a "voice of reason" to counterpoint all the crazyness and nihilism, a Bird-Person or Mr Poopybutthole who not only were viably comic creations, but served as dramatic and moral foils. They need that now especially as they've pretty comprehensively torched every member of the Smith family. Most notably Beth and Summer who when they get given any sort of character agency are shown to be just as bad as Rick but without his self-awareness and exposure to the chaos of the multiverse.
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eyesabitdull
Banned
These two points are on point.
This is how I feel as well, because they completely left whatever story arc they had to become a "funny random shit we came up with" of the week kind of show.
I keep rewatching/listening the old seasons during my time doing cooking or washing dishes when cleaning and my god you really do realize when things just become random AF and done just for the lulz.
I still love the first 2 seasons, but 3 and up became far too comfortable wiping out any story beats that a lot of us tuned in to catch up on.
Now any real advancement to a story arc we would've liked to see is turned into shitting on us for wanting to know more.
They glaze through it, make jokes about it, kill off the character easily before going on another sci fi romp to destroy the galaxy government/alien whatever that's totally funny bro.
Only good thing is character development, I guess?
But idk, I'm not sure if its actual character development, or the change in writers that gave us this weak ass Rick this season.
Yoboman
Member
Feels like they realise they've got a ton of seasons left so have pulled back on the escalations
Now they've gone and sort of dumped these clones plus alternate realities on us, we never really know if we are following the main family and the rickest Rick.
I expect that will come around eventually as a plot but for now its just week to week hijinks, which is fair enough if its good quality
I dont mind it but it varies in quality a lot. Episode 1 and 2 were great. Episode 3 below average. Episode 4 I think was the worst ever episode for the show
E-Cat
Member
I think the orgasmic Dragon or whatever was the weakest episode.
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Mato
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South Park, my favorite animated show, had some really fun and witty writing all the way to at least seasons 7/8 and even up to season 10 ("Good times with weapons" was pretty great). By comparison, it appears that Rick and Morty peaked at season 2, which is disappointing. What a fluke. To this day, Plumbus remains the hardest I've laughed in the last decade or so.
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CliffyB's Cock Holster
I'd argue SP has actually gotten better, if less consistent, over the years. I suspect their secret is that they don't over-think, or over-work any particular idea. There are great episodes in every season, but with the crazily short production schedule for each show its naturally a bit scattershot.
Its also a show that has allowed its characters to evolve and change radically in order to stay fresh. It took 5 seasons for Cartman to have his defining Scott Tenorman moment, and characters that are naturally limited (like Kenny) have been unceremoniously side-lined when they stopped adding value. They've been able to do this because they have a lot of recurring characters to work with.
R+M has a way smaller cast, and none of them are growing to the extent that it feels like there's sufficient belief in them to carry an entire episode. They really have created a rock for their own backs, and it seems to me that its an issue being addressed more gracefully in Solar Opposites, where the "Wall" sub-plot has been maintained in order to take the pressure off of the primary cast.
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
Totally agree. Episode 4 of this season was, by a large margin, the worst episode of Rick and Morty. I don't think I even cracked a smile during the whole episode
eyesabitdull
Banned
Ugh, is it me, or did the writers change and whoever is in there right now is just absolute amateur at their jobs?
Every episode in this season is getting more and more contrived, pointless, and out of character.
Episode 5 was yet again another sci-fi romp with no actual story, and just another craaaazzzzyyyyy adventure once again in which the conclusion is rushed because the runtime is up.
"What's the point of these episodes?" is what comes to mind.
At least South Park by the their 3rd of 4th season realized all the fart jokes and toilet humor would eventually need to be swapped out to something more substantial, cohesive, interesting to watch, and somewhat relatable in their episodes.
Sure, South Park has many really silly concepts that do buzz out by the end of the episode, but I would say South Park has been able to stay consistent longer over the course of 20+ seasons. Remember Randy and that episode about Naggers? Remember the arc of Imaginationland? Or let's go farther and talk about the episode where they were arguing over a racist flag?
Rick and Morty went from interesting characters playing out interesting scenarios that are somewhat relatable to our imagination (What if dogs were smart and ruled the world/what happens if you could go into any dimension after you fucked up majorly, etc), to literally relying too much on sexual overtones, pushing buttons in a very grating way, and continuously trying to go bigger and bigger in their ridiculous ideas and concept while not even having a cohesive structure of how the story will end.
Seriously almost every episode in this season so far has ended inconclusively. It just goes absolutely ape shit, no holds barred, craaaaAAAAaaaAAAaazzzzyyy adventure, and "look at how crazy and out of the box we can get" before eventually realizing there's not enough time to make sense of it all so fuck it, Deus Ex Machina it (and acknowledge it so it's totally funny and not just lazy writing) to the finish line and roll the credits.
What the fuck is the point of watching this show anymore.
Every episode in this season is getting more and more contrived, pointless, and out of character.
Episode 5 was yet again another sci-fi romp with no actual story, and just another craaaazzzzyyyyy adventure once again in which the conclusion is rushed because the runtime is up.
"What's the point of these episodes?" is what comes to mind.
At least South Park by the their 3rd of 4th season realized all the fart jokes and toilet humor would eventually need to be swapped out to something more substantial, cohesive, interesting to watch, and somewhat relatable in their episodes.
Sure, South Park has many really silly concepts that do buzz out by the end of the episode, but I would say South Park has been able to stay consistent longer over the course of 20+ seasons. Remember Randy and that episode about Naggers? Remember the arc of Imaginationland? Or let's go farther and talk about the episode where they were arguing over a racist flag?
Rick and Morty went from interesting characters playing out interesting scenarios that are somewhat relatable to our imagination (What if dogs were smart and ruled the world/what happens if you could go into any dimension after you fucked up majorly, etc), to literally relying too much on sexual overtones, pushing buttons in a very grating way, and continuously trying to go bigger and bigger in their ridiculous ideas and concept while not even having a cohesive structure of how the story will end.
Seriously almost every episode in this season so far has ended inconclusively. It just goes absolutely ape shit, no holds barred, craaaaAAAAaaaAAAaazzzzyyy adventure, and "look at how crazy and out of the box we can get" before eventually realizing there's not enough time to make sense of it all so fuck it, Deus Ex Machina it (and acknowledge it so it's totally funny and not just lazy writing) to the finish line and roll the credits.
What the fuck is the point of watching this show anymore.
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Toots
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The first three i liked, even the captain planet one.
The semen episode was dumb af, unfortunately 14 year old trying to be edgy dumb, not funny dumb.
The 5th ep was weird. All that cool new kid stuff we're suppose to care about is so uninspired...
There's jokes in ep 4 and 5 i can't believe got out of the writing room. Horribly bland crap that falls painfully flat (like everything Summer do in ep 5)... Stuff that would have never been seen in previous seasons.
Makes me feel like every writer there is able to pitch that stupid joke that he's so proud of, and noone cares to tell them "your joke is crap, go back to work".
Each time i watch or hear Harmon talking about R&M he seems to have this "meh, it's good enough" vibe about the show now, like he has no more fight in him to push his team to do great, and he just let the soulless corporate suits take over.
That is so frustrating. Such a entitled thing to do. Look at me, I shat everywhere on purpose!
The semen episode was dumb af, unfortunately 14 year old trying to be edgy dumb, not funny dumb.
The 5th ep was weird. All that cool new kid stuff we're suppose to care about is so uninspired...
There's jokes in ep 4 and 5 i can't believe got out of the writing room. Horribly bland crap that falls painfully flat (like everything Summer do in ep 5)... Stuff that would have never been seen in previous seasons.
Makes me feel like every writer there is able to pitch that stupid joke that he's so proud of, and noone cares to tell them "your joke is crap, go back to work".
Each time i watch or hear Harmon talking about R&M he seems to have this "meh, it's good enough" vibe about the show now, like he has no more fight in him to push his team to do great, and he just let the soulless corporate suits take over.
That is so frustrating. Such a entitled thing to do. Look at me, I shat everywhere on purpose!
LaughingStock
Member
Just watched episode 4. Holy shit, that was unfunny as fuck. And what's up with the feminist crap with Summer?
MrTroubleMaker
Gold Member
Different writers? I don't think Justin and Dan do much writing for the show anymore.
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Toots
Gold Member
I binged 6 and 7 yesterday.This voltron episode is terrible.
Voltron was not good but better than 3 and 4 i think.
Rick is dangerously turning into some badly written cartman (as in "i m doing fucked up uncharacteristical stuff because i'm super cool and edgy") but they can correct. I found Obama thanksgiving ep funny and dumb in a good way, with less cringy jokes, so let's hope 7 is just a misstep on their road to a better show (... than the abysmals 3 and 4)
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Flanderization is taking its toll.
Man, it really show how stale the cinematography of western animation is
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Orion2
Banned
I've been watching Rick and Morty since day one, and with S5 EP7, I dropped the show, not because of EP7 specifically, but tis whole season is just... what is going on... with the exception of the Planetina episode which went nowhere, the rest of this season feels like the filler arc of an anime, and I wasn't crazy about S4 either so this is my stopping point, after waiting so much in between seasons for so many of the EPs in S5 being so bad it's just depressing to watch
BaneIsPain
Member
Season 5 is disappointing so far. The decline is so much obvious when rewatching season 1 & 2.
To the solar opposite season 2.
To the solar opposite season 2.
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
Absolutely agree that season 5 is by far the worst season so far. I can't get over the difference in quality compared to the previous seasons.
Episode one was actually good, but it's been downhill from there.
Lunarorbit
Member
When they show the writers and Harmon at the end of each episode Harmon just looks detached from the show. The writers all look excited but I think that might be the problem.
They were all fans of the show and got hired to write for it which makes it seem like a knock off of Rick and morty. I thought at the beginning of the season Harmon just didn't give a shit anymore cause the tone has gotten way darker and nihilistic. Those were always themes in the show but now it's bashing you over the head with it.
They were all fans of the show and got hired to write for it which makes it seem like a knock off of Rick and morty. I thought at the beginning of the season Harmon just didn't give a shit anymore cause the tone has gotten way darker and nihilistic. Those were always themes in the show but now it's bashing you over the head with it.
eyesabitdull
Banned
Can we just derail this thread into a "The Suicide Squad" movie discussion thread?
I'm far too lazy to make a new thread, and well, Rick and Morty has been disappointing and this thread is even more depressing since we're all slowly coming to an agreement how awful it has become.
Anyway, did anyone get to watch the movie? I forgot it was even out, and I'm not one to read reviews.
I'm far too lazy to make a new thread, and well, Rick and Morty has been disappointing and this thread is even more depressing since we're all slowly coming to an agreement how awful it has become.
Anyway, did anyone get to watch the movie? I forgot it was even out, and I'm not one to read reviews.
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Davey Cakes
Member
I'm seeing it on Saturday. With friends. At the cinema!
As for Rick & Morty, I still find it watchable. The Voltron episode was definitely weak, and now I realize they've been leaning into the alternate universes and alternate families way too much.
The Wheel of Fortune
Member
Apparently the staff is saying the next one is something special. Considering that they've kept these last 3 episodes strictly under wraps so far, I'm starting to get hyped a little bit! Let's hope they turn things around, because aside from ep 1 (and maybe 2), the quality has been abysmal.
Another pic here
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Fbh
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Apparently the staff is saying the next one is something special. Considering that they've kept these last 3 episodes strictly under wraps so far, I'm starting to get hyped a little bit! Let's hope they turn things around, because aside from ep 1 (and maybe 2), the quality has been abysmal.
Another pic here
Welp, hopefully this is true.
I liked the first 2 episodes but since then this season has been going downhill at an alarming rate.
This last Voltron episode was just terrible.
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Master Of Illusion
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Idk it's inconsistent but this show still manages to give me some loud gut laughs.
e1 & 2 were God tier. 5 & 7 were fun too.
Really did not like the turkey one though.
e1 & 2 were God tier. 5 & 7 were fun too.
Really did not like the turkey one though.
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Orion2
Banned
that's not true at all, Samurai Jack, Kim Possible, Billy & Mandy, Edds, whether it's season 1 or their last season they just as strong if not stronger in later stuff, Rick and Morty writers don't need you defending them, if you like it that's fine, but that doesn't mean you get to invalidate other people's criticism
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CliffyB's Cock Holster
Season 5 of South Park says you're badly mistaken.
Yoboman
Member
South Park took awhile to peak and then they reinvented themselves multiple times
Rick and Morty was a weird one where it was peaking the moment it started
Mato
Member
Right... Go watch "Scott Tenorman Must Die" if you want to see what a good fifth season looks like.
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CliffyB's Cock Holster
In all fairness culturally South Park was a bigger deal from day#1 than Rick and Morty has ever been. My point was that it speaks volumes to Matt & Trey's work ethic and commitment to make the best show possible that they stepped up so strongly 5 seasons in, rather than just coast on a proven hit formula.
Sadly, that really doesn't seem to be the case with R+M.
Yoboman
Member
Problem is that conceptually South Park is a lot simpler, so there seems to be a wider bearth of ideas to work with. You can do the kids playing video games and come up with a legendary episode. And even when those ideas ran dry they changed their work flow to make it a topical show made each week
Rick and Morty has to come up with high concept sci fi ideas for every episodes and they've constrained themselves to working entirely within the family so can't expand out into the town like South Park and The Simpsons did
I expect Rick and Morty will still have some amazing episodes but it'll be a few a season instead of whole seasons worth
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
OK, I liked episode 8.
the simpsons were in the middle of their golden age in season 5.
By comparison, this past season has easily been their worst. Maybe they will rebound next season.
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Yoboman
Member
Simpsons was like an evolving project. Season 1 and 2 were nothing like season 5 where it started to peak for 4-5 seasons. Rick and Morty was much more developed to start and hit the ground running
Rick is very quickly becoming Homer. A great character but they've stopped developing him based on how his character should grow and started writing him based on his character traits. Homer they played more and more into his stupidity, Rick they play more and more into his angry apathy.
Morty is even worse for this season IMO. Whereas I felt he was always getting interesting growth throughout the series it feels like they just focus now on him being the horse sidekick
This will only happen more and more as you bring in writers who have a preconceived notion of what the character is rather than trying to develop one
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"Half bird person, half megabitch."
Sounds like a teething infant to me.
Sounds like a teething infant to me.
Bombolone
Gold Member
Finished episode 6 (Season 5) last night.
Really liked it. The whole Thanksgiving tied in with American action movies was entertaining.
The POTUS is a hilarious character. Just hearing his voice actor (Keith David) deliver those lines cracks me up.
Wasnt a fan of ep 4 or 5, so this was a nice change. Checking out ep 7 some time this week.
Really liked it. The whole Thanksgiving tied in with American action movies was entertaining.
The POTUS is a hilarious character. Just hearing his voice actor (Keith David) deliver those lines cracks me up.
Wasnt a fan of ep 4 or 5, so this was a nice change. Checking out ep 7 some time this week.