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[Sorian]

It's day 4 and you're all still alive and I see that this is going towards another mislynch so let's narrow this down for the last two and a half hours. I'm a weak cop, Ghost in a Jar for those that care about flavor, Giant Panda is town. Mostly a shot in the dark on N1. Thinking down the list, he seemed like an easy town pick and I didn't want to go down that early.

I checked Fat N2. Chose who I expected to be most town from the two (him and Zee). Figured then it wouldn't matter, now I know it didn't.

I checked Ouro N3. Thought he was town but wanted to actually be sure because he keeps pushing for the day 2 lynch to be all resolved.

Now can we talk real options. And those that like excitement get two claims today.

 

[Sorian]

That's

1). A pretty odd conclusion when you don't know night actions
2). Pretty optimistic
3). If you turn out to be neutral, very convenient

What about it is an odd conclusion? It makes complete sense barring extreme luck as detailed one Faddy's post under yours.

 

[Ourobolus]

That's

1). A pretty odd conclusion when you don't know night actions
2). Pretty optimistic
3). If you turn out to be neutral, very convenient

What? I said "lucky". I don't think he has stopped anything.

 

[Ourobolus]

It's day 4 and you're all still alive and I see that this is going towards another mislynch so let's narrow this down for the last two and a half hours. I'm a weak cop, Ghost in a Jar for those that care about flavor, Giant Panda is town. Mostly a shot in the dark on N1. Thinking down the list, he seemed like an easy town pick and I didn't want to go down that early.

I checked Fat N2. Chose who I expected to be most town from the two (him and Zee). Figured then it wouldn't matter, now I know it didn't.

I checked Ouro N3. Thought he was town but wanted to actually be sure because he keeps pushing for the day 2 lynch to be all resolved.

Now can we talk real options. And those that like excitement get two claims today.

...squidy is that you

 

[Verelios]

What? I said "lucky". I don't think he has stopped anything.

Oh, okay, I thought you were saying the neutral couldn't be a SK. My bad.

 

[Verelios]

It's day 4 and you're all still alive and I see that this is going towards another mislynch so let's narrow this down for the last two and a half hours. I'm a weak cop, Ghost in a Jar for those that care about flavor, Giant Panda is town. Mostly a shot in the dark on N1. Thinking down the list, he seemed like an easy town pick and I didn't want to go down that early.

I checked Fat N2. Chose who I expected to be most town from the two (him and Zee). Figured then it wouldn't matter, now I know it didn't.

I checked Ouro N3. Thought he was town but wanted to actually be sure because he keeps pushing for the day 2 lynch to be all resolved.

Now can we talk real options. And those that like excitement get two claims today.

Amazing. So we can put the Fat discussion to rest and I guess, begrudgingly not lynch Ouro.

 

[Sorian]

Waiting for acohrs to scramble. I'm betting on another double down.

 

[SalvaPot]

It's day 4 and you're all still alive and I see that this is going towards another mislynch so let's narrow this down for the last two and a half hours. I'm a weak cop, Ghost in a Jar for those that care about flavor, Giant Panda is town. Mostly a shot in the dark on N1. Thinking down the list, he seemed like an easy town pick and I didn't want to go down that early.

I checked Fat N2. Chose who I expected to be most town from the two (him and Zee). Figured then it wouldn't matter, now I know it didn't.

I checked Ouro N3. Thought he was town but wanted to actually be sure because he keeps pushing for the day 2 lynch to be all resolved.

Now can we talk real options. And those that like excitement get two claims today.

 

[CCS]

Cheers Sorian.

Acohrs has seemed off as the game has gone on. Less rugby chat with me than normal.

 

[Faddy]

So time to lynch Zeusy or Kawl then.

 

[SalvaPot]

So time to lynch Zeusy or Kawl then.

Don't forget about Dusk!

 

[Fat4all]

Well shit, I’d pour myself a beer but it’s a bit too early.

 

[SalvaPot]

Oh, right.

Vote: Dusk Soldier

 

[Ourobolus]

I'll rethink some things, but I'm not gonna blindly trust Sorian here

 

[SalvaPot]

I'll rethink some things, but I'm not gonna blindly trust Sorian here

I mean, his power is easily verifiable (Lynch him or a cleaned person)

But yeah, that doesn't mean he couldn't be a scum cop.

 

[Ourobolus]

I mean, his power is easily verifiable (Lynch him or a cleaned person)

But yeah, that doesn't mean he couldn't be a scum cop.

Scum alignment cop isn't a thing. Scum already knows alignments so he can just pick what he wants. Weak Cop implies he would die if he picked scum, which gives more credence than a regular cop.

But it's Sorian. So automatically that means take it with a grain of salt.

 

[Sorian]

I'll rethink some things, but I'm not gonna blindly trust Sorian here

Yes yes, I'm the terrible boogeyman. I'd be more annoyed at you since you had to keep poking my softs but whatever, now was a fine time.

 

[Penguin]

Sorry for being MIA for most of the "day" but NYCC is mostly done and mostly rested.

And trying to catch up on the thread, there just seems to be a ton of finger-pointing in every direction.

And guess big story on this page is Salva's role claim that no one can actually support, correct?

 

[Ourobolus]

Yes yes, I'm the terrible boogeyman. I'd be more annoyed at you since you had to keep poking my softs but whatever, now was a fine time.

Just surprised you seem to land on the exact people I find scummy at the moment

 

[Sorian]

Just surprised you seem to land on the exact people I find scummy at the moment

I told you all day on day 2 that Panda was town and spent all of day 3 telling you that Fat was town. There shouldn't be surprise here.

 

[Faddy]

Just surprised you seem to land on the exact people I find scummy at the moment

I am highly inclined to believe Sorian. It is such a risky play to claim weak cop since he would be immediately counter-claimed by a Town cop role. The chances we don't have an investigative role is nil.

 

[Sorian]

Sorry for being MIA for most of the "day" but NYCC is mostly done and mostly rested.

And trying to catch up on the thread, there just seems to be a ton of finger-pointing in every direction.

And guess big story on this page is Salva's role claim that no one can actually support, correct?

Yes Penguin, biggest story of the day, thank you for your continued contributions.

 

[Ourobolus]

I told you all day on day 2 that Panda was town and spent all of day 3 telling you that Fat was town. There shouldn't be surprise here.

Fine. Please check Penguin tonight for me.

 

[Faddy]

Fat could still be scum. If Sorian checked him but Salva also blocked/protected Fat on night 2 so Sorian wouldn't get a read.

 

[Sorian]

Fine. Please check Penguin tonight for me.

We both know this isn't how weak cops work.

 

[SalvaPot]

I told you all day on day 2 that Panda was town and spent all of day 3 telling you that Fat was town. There shouldn't be surprise here.

Yet you kept bickering witho Ouro today and saying you are glad he couldn't vote, even knowing he was town.

 

[Ourobolus]

We both know this isn't how weak cops work.

Sure it is. If you die, Penguin is scum.

 

[Sorian]

Fat could still be scum. If Sorian checked him but Salva also blocked/protected Fat on night 2 so Sorian wouldn't get a read.

That depends on the type of jailer. Usually for forum mafia, it's just the roleblock + protection and not the actual guard thing where you can't interact with the person.

 

[SalvaPot]

Fat could still be scum. If Sorian checked him but Salva also blocked/protected Fat on night 2 so Sorian wouldn't get a read.

I'm pretty sure that is not how either block or protect works. Blocks stop the target from getting their role out and protect keeps the target from getting killed, it has no effect on cop roles.

 

[Fat4all]

Yet you kept bickering witho Ouro today and saying you are glad he couldn't vote, even knowing he was town.

Because Ouro was pushing for me to get lynched, it was leading to another town v. town.

I never saw Sorian push for Ouro to get lynched today, unless I’m mistaken.

 

[Sorian]

Yet you kept bickering witho Ouro today and saying you are glad he couldn't vote, even knowing he was town.

He's wanted to vote for the other two green checks and keeps trying to convince others to do the same. Are you not seeing the issue?

Sure it is. If you die, Penguin is scum.

That's not a hard frame job to run.

 

[Faddy]

We both know this isn't how weak cops work.

What is the negative utility in announcing your target?

 

[Fat4all]

* possible town v. town

 

[SalvaPot]

He's wanted to vote for the other two green checks and keeps trying to convince others to do the same. Are you not seeing the issue?



That's not a hard frame job to run.

True, true.

I feel with your claim and my soft claim we have enough info to get a party started.

 

[Sorian]

What is the negative utility in announcing your target?

If scum can kill me when I am targeting town then they are suddenly in contention. Especially now that we know that Salva is a jailer, the possibility of him roleblocking means the situation is even murkier.

 

[Penguin]

Sure it is. If you die, Penguin is scum.

I think mentioned this on Day 2 when someone else came up with a scheme for someone else, you can't ANNOUNCE your intentions because then people will just do what's expected to get the results they needed.

But sure, let's have Sorian check me out tonight so you can get off my back.

 

[Fat4all]

If scum can kill me when I am targeting town then they are suddenly in contention. Especially now that we know that Salva is a jailer, the possibility of him roleblocking means the situation is even murkier.

It boils down to if SalvaPots ability was actually 3-shot.

Otherwise (and unless there’s another ability out there), Scum would likely let you die checking Scum, and NK someone else as well.

 

[SalvaPot]

It boils down to if SalvaPots ability was actually 3-shot.

Otherwise (and unless there’s another ability out there), Scum would likely let you die checking Scum, and NK someone else as well.

I could be lying about the shots.

If scum can kill me when I am targeting town then they are suddenly in contention. Especially now that we know that Salva is a jailer, the possibility of him roleblocking means the situation is even murkier.

If I was jailer you wouldn't have been able to check Fat on N2.

 

[Fat4all]

I could be lying about the shots.

Well that’s reassuring.

If I was jailer you wouldn't have been able to check Fat on N2.

Hooker?

 

[CCS]

Well that’s reassuring.



Hooker?

Don't mind if I do

 

[Sorian]

It boils down to if SalvaPots ability was actually 3-shot.

Otherwise (and unless there’s another ability out there), Scum would likely let you die checking Scum, and NK someone else as well.

Jailer doesn't need to be x-shot and Salva already talked about how he would save an extra shot of a power when we were talking about the whole vote thing, sorry Salva, I know it's a lie.

 

[Sorian]

I could be lying about the shots.



If I was jailer you wouldn't have been able to check Fat on N2.

That's not how standard jailer works. That's a specific modified version. I'm assuming normal until told otherwise.

 

[Fat4all]

Don't mind if I do

 

[Dr. Worm]

It's day 4 and you're all still alive and I see that this is going towards another mislynch so let's narrow this down for the last two and a half hours. I'm a weak cop, Ghost in a Jar for those that care about flavor

so when were you expecting to die, exactly

 

[SalvaPot]

(..) sorry Salva, I know it's a lie.

 

[Sorian]

so when were you expecting to die, exactly

I don't know how to answer this question. Probably sometime around a day start or end.

 

[Dr. Worm]

I don't know how to answer this question. Probably sometime around a day start or end.

earlier or later in the game?

because this claim seems like it'd move the needle to earlier

 

[SalvaPot]

earlier or later in the game?

because this claim seems like it'd move the needle to earlier

Well, if its a soft cop that dies when it targets scum, then it makes sense to get this info out now.

Also it makes sense why he was so confident in his wording when he said someone was town.

 

[Verelios]

What is the negative utility in announcing your target?

Uh, 1 to 1 kill? Redirect? Role block? Am I missing something here!?

You and Ouro seem really jumpy.

 

[Sorian]

earlier or later in the game?

because this claim seems like it'd move the needle to earlier

I mean, I have an extra avenue of death over most other players so obviously that moves the needle to earlier.