11 years, actually. Gothic was released in 2001.
Well, the team is not the same as all those years ago.
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Well, the team is not the same as all those years ago.
I guess they didn't start the development in 2001 though
Anyway, i just feel like there are several bad design decisions... because the game has nice components, but the assembly its not that good.
I love their games (yes, including gothic3) and i understand that is a small studio and all that, but i cant help but feeling disappointed with this
Maybe its me and i am being over pessimistic... or maybe the game gets me with the exploration of the next areas, i hope so.cleveridea
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I dont know if its because I have nostalgia goggles, but I remember risen 1 being beautiful outdoors on pc yet fugly in risen 2. in particular trees, shadows and items flickering in and out of view constantly
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Risen 1 has series lod issues with draw distance (really obvious when you manually increased it) as well and I couldn't get the mods that supposedly fixed the far lod textures to work.
yes, i cant figure out the lock picking part, i go left to right but it wont open the chest.
Spectacular Dr Dawg
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What does it break? Did you try reloading and doing the quest again?
I tried to google risen 2 the deserter but your post was the only thing that showed up. I haven't done that quest yet but hopefully it's not a widespread issue.
You need to learn the pattern.
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You have to move to the tumblers in a particular order. Some of them will cause all the tumblers to fall again if you move to them. So those are the ones you want to move to last. There's one correct order that you have to work out.
Arpeggio23
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After reading through all the complaints in this thread, I decided to watch a few Let's Play videos on YouTube...and I honestly don't understand what everyone is going on about. The game looks great, seems to run well, the story/characters/setting/VA all seem good, the combat seems like it might be a click-fest, but that's not necessarily a bad thing if you like that kind of combat. Granted, I haven't actually played any of Risen 2 yet myself, but I think this thread might be meandering down an overly critical path. Based on the LP videos I watched, it actually seems like a really good game.
I'll say it again: Other than the poor combat, the game is good. The thing is, combat is very important to many people. For me, the exploration is the most important part.
Yeah, i don't get it. To each his\her own I guess.
The game is heaps of fun, and I can't wait 'till I get home to play more. The adventuring and exploration of the islands is hands down the best part. The few islands I have been on are well crafted.The voice overs are good. Works awesome with a gamepad. The pirate theme is cool. BUT...
The combat has made me rage a couple of times, and could use a overhaul, but than Gothic II, Gothic III, and Risen made me feel the same way about their combat.
I haven't had a single crash, and performance is good @ 1080p on my older hardware. (AthlonX2 6400+, Radeon 5770). I did have one major questline bug out, and had to look it up online for a work around.
You need to buy the right tools to get monster trophies. There are 4 tools, I think.
I am so glad i chose the Voodoo route
- Permanent Stat Potions
- Selling Voodoo Trinkets for some nice cash (Just sold and made 40 Feather Earrings for 400 gold each)
- Greatly Boost the effects of temporary potions.
The lock picking mini game is great as well. At first i didnt know wtf i was doing but then it sort of clicked.
- Permanent Stat Potions
- Selling Voodoo Trinkets for some nice cash (Just sold and made 40 Feather Earrings for 400 gold each)
- Greatly Boost the effects of temporary potions.
The lock picking mini game is great as well. At first i didnt know wtf i was doing but then it sort of clicked.
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The combat is just frustrating because there is no way to reliably avoid taking damage since your character is so goddamn sluggish and priority is given to animations, so whatever command you input will not process until the current animation is finished. You had the dodge move in Risen, which allowed for you to skillfully avoid enemy attacks, but in Risen 2 you either have to run around like a madman, or just stand there and get hit while trying to get your own attacks in.
They have these big giant crab monsters that can be knocked over when kicked, but this only works when they are charging up their power attack. It makes sense to try and take advantage of this exploit, so you'll get in close and try to time your kick correctly. Unfortunately, the crabs also have a normal attack with a very quick animation. Kicking them while they do their normal attack does nothing. You also can't avoid the normal attack if you are close enough to kick them. It's just really frustrating.
Once you figure out what to do, the lock picking mini game is kind of entertaining. It still feels a bit pointless, though. You can't "lose" at it, nor is there any downside to taking your time. This, along with the out-of-the-blue "press spacebar or die" QTE's are two of the new additions that I think were completely unnecessary.
They have these big giant crab monsters that can be knocked over when kicked, but this only works when they are charging up their power attack. It makes sense to try and take advantage of this exploit, so you'll get in close and try to time your kick correctly. Unfortunately, the crabs also have a normal attack with a very quick animation. Kicking them while they do their normal attack does nothing. You also can't avoid the normal attack if you are close enough to kick them. It's just really frustrating.
Once you figure out what to do, the lock picking mini game is kind of entertaining. It still feels a bit pointless, though. You can't "lose" at it, nor is there any downside to taking your time. This, along with the out-of-the-blue "press spacebar or die" QTE's are two of the new additions that I think were completely unnecessary.
You can learn brew potions and ritual 1-2 later on even if you go inquisition. I think you can get one of the best (or the best?) musket even if you go voodoo, however.
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Any idea where to get a musket? I haven't been able to find a single one and I'm 20 hours into the game.
Chieftain/trials quest on maracai, in the native village
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Awesome. I just made it there last night.
RadicalRad
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Can anyone tell me where the save files are stored? I did a little digging and couldn't find them. I'm kind of OCD and the whole huge list of saves isn't cool, so I was going to do some spring cleaning on those saves. Reminds me of how Witcher 1 would make infinite saves too. (but it would actually bog down load times after it would reach enough of them)
Imp the Dimp
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Er...they didn't blow the sequel to one of the best RPGs of the past decade, did they?
eXistor
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Aside from the combat, which does indeed blow chunks, the game is freaking awesome. There's a bunch of technical problems and other slight niggles (they do add up), but if you're able to look past all that you'll find an amazing world to explore. I'm having just as much fun with this as I did with Risen 1, learning the lay of the land never gets old. Another great game from Pyranha Bytes as far as I'm concerned. Other developers should look at their games and learn a thing or two about world-building.
I did that and I didn't get a musket. I guess it depends what chief you joined up with. What were the stats?
So after scouring each island from top to bottom for crap to kill, I ended up with these stats:
If I was able to change anything that i did it would be leaving cunning at Lvl 6. Lvl 9 is just overkill especially with the thief stat boost items you find later. Also, i did the treasure Island DLC last. I had no idae there was a 10% Glory boost Relic there. I still need to make those stat potions and make some more jewelry.
If I was able to change anything that i did it would be leaving cunning at Lvl 6. Lvl 9 is just overkill especially with the thief stat boost items you find later. Also, i did the treasure Island DLC last. I had no idae there was a 10% Glory boost Relic there. I still need to make those stat potions and make some more jewelry.
Actually apparently you can only side with the other guy who doesn't give a musket as a reward if you aren't with the inquisition
Yes, there are two chief candidates, but it seems your faction determines which you can side with
Under c:/users/(username)/saved games/risen 2
About the game, I'm really enjoying it, combat sucks but once i learned to expoit monsters and paths and got what I think is the best sword in the game it became pretty fun. Trick is to always have a partner with you to be your tank.
When running around solo it is a major pain in the ass though espacially on
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I wonder if they gimped your abilities in combat in this game because you have a partner for a lot of the time.
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Does the fact that pistol has two barrels mean anything?
Edit woot! Found a way to unbug the marcia village / fire temple entrance quest. Now i can go to the fire temp area
I don't think so... I bought "The Twins", but they seem worse than my normal pistol since I miss more due to the -10 pistol skill in comparison.
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So is the story a satisfying follow up to the ending of Risen 1? I was pleased in the beta that quite a few characters returned and that we finally get to meet at least one who had been name dropped.
Also, does the Don play a role at all?
Also, does the Don play a role at all?
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It takes place a few years after Risen 1. I personally wouldn't say the follow-up is satisfying. It's definitely a continuation, but the intro is rather anti-climactic considering how things looked at the end of the original. A lot of things that changed seem to go unexplained, too. I'm still not finished yet, so their may be some explanation later.
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Like where the swag Titan Armor went?
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Armor in general for that matter! Where the hell did shields go, too? Suddenly everyone in the world decides to take up fencing as their main fighting style?
Also, I haven't found a proper explanation for why magic suddenly disappeared, or where all of these firearms came from all of the sudden.
Also... why did the main dude forget how to dodge?
Sentenza
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I thought the exact opposite.
They made a great job forcing an explanation for (almost) everything that changed since the first one, even if it's clear that in the end they just wanted the pirate setting.
For instance we know who invented fire weapons a few years back (Godin, and he was a minor character in Risen, now he's some sort of national hero).
We also know why there aren't mages anymore (traditional magic stopped working after you destroyed the fire titan and mages were banished soon after that).
On top of that, there's also a pretty decent explanation about why the main character is so weak and out of shape at the beginning of the game ((Mendoza's monocle was cursed, to extract it the hero lost an eye and suffered great pain and since then he spent almost every night drowning in rum to cloud the senses).
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Where is it explained the monocle was cursed? I must have missed taht.
I didn't remember Godin from the first game, but that's a cool reference. I know he invented firearms, but doesn't this take place just two years after the first game? Seems crazy how widespread they are.
Also, magic actually stopped working? I heard about the mages being banished, but I didn't know magic no longer even existed.
Sounds like I missed out on a few things (unless they are explained later in the game).
Are there any Schematics that use the Jesters Cap, Sharpeye, or Hero's Crown? I cant seem to find any. Probably on one of those 2 voodoo ladies that disappear as the game progresses. (ONE WHICH HAD ONE OF THOSE LEGENDARY RELICS) or in some unfounded chest.
Haunted
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Man, this thread doesn't inspire confidence.
I guess I'll wait a bit longer until I get this... sounds like this needs some severe patching.
Surely you jest.
I guess I'll wait a bit longer until I get this... sounds like this needs some severe patching.
Worse than in Risen 1?
Surely you jest.
Sentenza
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At the very beginning of the game, when you still are in Caldera and you talk to the guard asking for an honest report of what people say about you.
I'm not sure if they even bothered giving an exact amount of time since the first game, but somewhere I read that are supposedly seven years.
And about firearms being "widespread", well... It's actually a setting where humanity is on the verge of extinction, so I guess it's not too hard to make something quite common among the few survivors.
I'm almost sure they state it quite clearly at some point: voodoo is the only form of magic actually working at the moment. Maybe they said it in some loading screen?
I can't remember exactly, but they say it somewhere.
Just beat the game, overall I had a pretty good time. Suprised at how short it was, only took me 20 hours doing most of the quests vs. 32 hours on risen 1.
My main complaints are not being able to dodge, or block monster attacks and so far it doesn't look like you can continue after beating the game.
My main complaints are not being able to dodge, or block monster attacks and so far it doesn't look like you can continue after beating the game.
theres one in a cave with some enemys in it, the northest part, on the western side, its west of where you land at the beggining
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Risen one had a good bit of piratey stuff too. It was like a one-size-fits-all fantasy game and it actually worked quite well.
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Is there any way to tell in game if I have the pre-order bonus island/DLC thing? I tried activating the code, but it comes out invalid on Steam... I may have activated it already and forgotten, though.
Too difficult for a drunk bastard.
Right click on game > View Downloadable Content. If you bought it on steam it should have already been integrated.
RadicalRad
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For those who played Gothic 2, you'll recall the expansion was heavily pirate themed. I think PB really wanted to do a pirate theme. They've done a good job too I'm loving the game.
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Damn. It looks like the code GMG gave me doesn't work. I've submitted a claim with them.
Hopefully they can respond within the day. I'm nearing the end of the game and would like to play through the DLC before I finish it.
CornBurrito
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If I enjoyed the hell of of exploration in Risen 1, will I enjoy Risen 2? I heard it is a bit less open world than the first, and also a bit dumbed down.