That's what I meant when I said the elements of Twin Peaks started to crop up this episode. Everyone has a dark side/secrets to them and some are slightly unhinged like in Twin Peaks.
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Riverdale |OT| Teen Peaks (or: Archie's Weirder Mysteries) - Thursday, 9/8c on The CW
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That's what I meant when I said the elements of Twin Peaks started to crop up this episode. Everyone has a dark side/secrets to them and some are slightly unhinged like in Twin Peaks.
No one has taken it the wrong way...no one
cj_iwakura
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He'll be the one you want around when Afterlife happens.
I've been meaning to watch that series. I might need to rectify that mistake.
That's right. Didn't the writers of this show want to (eventually) adapt that one-off as a Halloween Special? Does Jughead even have a pet? (We honestly haven't seen his family or his home yet, and I have some suspicion that he's homeless.)
On a related note, did Dilton make an apperance in the Wade/Staples run that's been the main inspiration for this adaptation? Wonder how different he is in that.
Twin Peaks is a fascinating show and one that sticks with you forever. It's actually even more soapy than Riverdale, but that's by design and part of what makes it great. It also goes to darker places, with some straight-up horror developments.
I'm curious if they're going to touch on Jughead's financial situation. It would be cool if they worked some of his background into the show.
Dilton showed up in the new comics last month, on #16. He's not very different from his original incarnation, just updated.
The humour is the show itself. A teen noir starring Archie Comics characters has a sort of inherent silliness to it, which the people who make the show are surely aware of.
He was pressured by Jughead the sulky loner...pretty sure if Reggie was harassing him Moose might be required. Fingers crossed for some Moose/Dilton scenes.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Welcome to Fetish Town, Population: You
It was pretty kinky when you break it down.
- Tied up
- Jacuzzi
- Maple syrup
- Betty in high heels dominating
- Being filmed
- Veronica watching
- Roleplay
Bruh same, I was shook as hell at first
- Interracial (although I don't think this should be considered kinky)
- Breathplay
- Humiliation (she kept calling him "pig"!)
Ya... that scene was all sorts of sexual.
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
BlackGhost
Banned
Honestly thought the actor who plays Betty was The actor from 11.22.63 (Sarah Gadon) 😮🤔😬
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
You know what, they do look very similar. Gadon was also in the movie Indignation. Both roles remind me of Betty, in personality and in costuming.
11/22/63 is Good Betty
Indignation is Bad Betty
Permanently A
Junior Member
Just started this and Betty's face during that first scene when Archie and Veronica meet is priceless
Baroquemantic
Member
All caught up. This show is awesome. Can't wait for the next episode.
PHOENIXZERO
Member
So that's a sticky maple huh? �� Why would a dude want to do that and why wouldn't this reflect back on him?
Google "sticky maple".
Google "sticky maple".
Apple Turnover
Banned
I assumed they made it up for the show. Good christ at what it actually is
Yeah, I just did... but it doesn't seem to have the same connotations as the show?
VGChampion
Member
Yeahhh... I'm assuming the show didn't mean that but you never know.
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
They probably picked sticky maple for a few reasons:
1) it's a sex term that you can say on TV.
2) is reasonably niche enough that the vast majority of people who are watching won't know what it is.
3) the majority of people will have to go to Google and discover what it is and get an additional little surprise/joke.
I doubt they cared about the actual mechanics of it or any of its implications.
1) it's a sex term that you can say on TV.
2) is reasonably niche enough that the vast majority of people who are watching won't know what it is.
3) the majority of people will have to go to Google and discover what it is and get an additional little surprise/joke.
I doubt they cared about the actual mechanics of it or any of its implications.
Permanently A
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Betty's mom is a little too close to my mother for my liking
Context. It's a CW show.
Sexy as hell?
Oh they definitely could've used a made name if they wanted, they knew what they were doing.
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Commandeering and narcissistic.
All caught up, really enjoying it so far. Funnily Archie is the least interesting character for me. Dark Betty got me shook. My guess for killer right now is that Polly is escaped from the group home and that's why they won't let Betty see her. And Betty isn't taking her Adderall which is secretly medication for a personality disorder. And since Betty was in her Polly persona and didn't remember what she had said, then Betty must know that Polly is experienced with muscle reactants. So, possibly, Polly is the one that killed Jason. But this is a theory based on the first three episodes of the season which almost never works, lol.
Shadowhelper
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Yes, the concept is funny. The idea of a super serious Archie comics show murder mystery had me intrigued. But the actual show doesn't have that inherent silliness. Everything is grounded, and beyond the concept pitch, it's not funny.
Funny they did it, but not a funny experience one bit. The narrative thrust is bland, mediocre. The only reason to care is because it's buttressed with these characters we know.
I think it's a pretty bad show, in reality. I don't think many of us would care or think it's good if it weren't based off Archie. It would seem so bland. Like what's the point of this show? Beyond the silliness of the concept of the show the actual show needs to be silly, and it can be this serious thing while working in humor.
At least make Reggie this awesome prankster FFS. They even resisted that? I do find EMO Jughead silly enough to chuckle a bit, because he is so EMO. But again, it's bizarre that to the detriment of perhaps being good in the the second episode they take pains to get the Betty Veronica Archie dynamic right, while just not bothering with other stuff. Either be a good show, or worry about fidelity more.
I guess my issue is the show is just not any fun, and the murder mystery, relative to all the crime shit we get, is almost objectively boring and uninteresting. Like my god, it's just listless and pointless, it feels like such a cynical ploy because its so mediocre. It's almost like they know the murder mystery part doesn't need to be good, because the audience is young and the two dozen Archie comics fans won't care anyway.
I like the show a lot and I didn't even know Archie comics existed until about two weeks ago.
Beaniedude
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I have to say I normally don't care for Veronica in most of the Archie mediums but I'm really digging her in this show. I guess it goes that she isn't a one note spoilt rich kid. I never understood why Betty and Veronica were friends in the comics.
Shadowhelper
Banned
But you aint tuning in every week to feverishly find out the next development in the murder mystery. It's just kinda there. Waiting to reveal some on the nose commentary about suburban life that has been done to death.
They did get Archie very right, although, I think if they're going to make a musician too like in the comics, then they don't need to make him an abercrombie and fitch model as well. Laying it on a bit thick, but minor complaint.
I am not feeling the heart of Archie comics here, personally.
Is this your first CW show? lol
Uh, yes I am. Please stop projecting your dislike of the show onto its entire audience. Thank you.
Apple Turnover
Banned
I'm curious then. Considering the murder mystery is the core of the plot, why do you think we're tuning in if not to find out who killed Jason?
RecRoulette
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She's really good in the rebooted Archie comics too. Then again, everyone's pretty good in that.
Shadowhelper
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I said it in my previous post already. For the soap elements and the beloved characters. And please try not being so pedantic guys. The you is the rhetorical you. Like people in general tuning in. I'm not reading your mind personally.
A lot of people saying ' but I like it', and not one defense for why its actually good. Not surprised personally. It'd be nice if people actually engaged my opinion of the show rather than devolve into nitpicking words or what I think are irrelevant tangents.
The point is the murder mystery is, I think the murder mystery is crap. And I have a hard time believing many hardcore nerds would care for this show if it wasn't based off Archie. That doesn't mean that applies to every single gaffer, I would hope that goes without saying. Perhaps I'm wrong. I don't think so, though.
It's thoroughly mediocre crime fiction. The soap elements have some life in it, though. Just barely. When someone says no one would watch it, or no one watches it, they don't literally mean not a single soul, just shorthand for relatively very little, get small ratings, etc.
Do hardcore nerds the types who love the cape books have much love for archie. I love archie due to the digests, but most people seem to be in for twin peaks light.
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
I've never read Archie and I'm a pretty big comics guy.
I'm just here for the pretty people and Twin Peaks ultra lite.
I'm just here for the pretty people and Twin Peaks ultra lite.
Shadowhelper
Banned
Yeah tons of us grew up reading it. And it's even made a comeback, with the younger readers. Obviously the numbers aren't ever what they used to be.
But even the fact it's being discussed here. Do all mediocre CW shows elicit an ongoing thread on gaff? Can't deny it's largely because it's based off an iconic comic property. The numerous threads I see on FB. The twitter discussion. It's almost all reflexive discussion about Archie comics. The interest is because its based on Archie comics. Not because " OMG did you here about this amazing new murder mystery show?"
Personally, I find the soap elements to be the redeeming part, and also the slight thrill of seeing how they adapt Archie for the screen. But I would speculate its popularity among its audience is also due to the soap elements, I think that might even just be an obvious overstatement, since its audience is very young and aimed at girls more.
Dude, there is 22 pages in this thread and in those pages plenty of people explain why they like the show. And if you read them you will see that the murder mystery is appreciated amongst folks and they are engaging with it, there even was a bit of guessing around the whodunnit aspect.
I'm pretty much just watching the show for the murder mystery since I think the show is handling it way better than the soapy high school intrigue.
Your central assertion about how the show lacks "fun" and contains "no humor" isn't an objective truth on which we all agree. There is plenty of jokes in the show, maybe they aren't to your taste but they're there. (and honestly if your idea of humour is blackmailing someone into wearing a dress then I'm pretty glad that you're not finding the show funny)
If your issue is that the show isn't "true" to the Archie comics (I'm not sure if you mean the old or the new ones?) then you'll probably never going to like the show. Because it isn't trying to be an exact copy of the comics, it is using the setting and the characters to do its own thing. Now you may or may not like the thing it is doing but you should approach the show on those premises not judging it on whether or not it is reproducing the comics (as you see them) perfectly.
I'm part of the "people in general" tuning in for the mystery part of it. Everything you're typing seems to indicate you're reading your own predispositions into what you're looking at online. People continue to contradict your assertions in this thread, but you're ignoring them to confirm your own bias.
You thinking anything does not equate with the general public, or less generally, the fans of this show thinking the same thing.
Basically, you've made up your mind, and no information presented to you will change it. Fine, that's your perogative -- but, constantly posting that why people in this forum like the show is wrong and positing the show is crap is just shitty behavior.
There are three types of people watching this show
1. People who are familiar with the Archie brand
2. People here for the teen drama(see people who also watched gossip girl, and every other show l)
3. People here for the murder mystery
I came because of the Archie brand but they suck at that
at least they got a decent murder mystery going on
1. People who are familiar with the Archie brand
2. People here for the teen drama(see people who also watched gossip girl, and every other show l)
3. People here for the murder mystery
I came because of the Archie brand but they suck at that
at least they got a decent murder mystery going on
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