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From Kotaku's interview with GHWT producer Brian Bright:

Brian isn’t afraid of having to win back any fans they might have lost to Guitar Hero III’s bruising difficulty (he thinks Guitar Hero: Aerosmith has reassured those poor souls that Guitar Hero has come back from the Dark Side). Even if those players have gone over to Rock Band, there’s room enough on everyone’s shelf for two games; especially with the instrument compatibility. Moreover, Brian doesn’t know of any artists that have exclusive deals with Rock Band or with Guitar Hero, so beloved songs will always be available to both factions.

Wow...

Haven't we seen PR about bands being exclusive to one or the other?
 
Mr Jared said:
I gold starred it on my first try :lol It's seriously easy ... you just have to avoid falling asleep at the wheel.

My wall was Don't Fear The Reaper, but that was because my drum set just wouldn't let me pass it. Then I put pennies under my sensors and tada, passed it right away and plowed through the rest.

DFtR is my wall. I will eventually pass that on hard.
 
Okay, Soup To Nuts.

How awesome is Rock Band 2 in terms of the new challenge structure for a single player? Has anyone done Band World Tour on their own?

These are the questions being asked by people whose 360s are currently under the knife.
 
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Those tiny dots are the microphone and light sensor. Just ran through the 9-song Harmonix Marathon on Expert with this baby. Yeah, it's pretty nice. And... wireless-y.

Auto-calibration: the plasma TV in our apartment didn't seem to have any lag playing these games before, but I gave this feature a shot anyway. After 4 successive tries, video lag offset was 30 ms each time, while audio lag offset came in with 1 ms only 3 out of the 4 times (the odd man out being -1 ms). I didn't notice any difference in timing during gameplay, though. Some will get more mileage out of this feature than others, but I'm not really the guy to ask.

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Fret Buttons: Still loud and clicky, despite what a certain scientific study from a gaming blog told me. :(

Strum Bar: Its silence still bothers me (still difficult to keep a steady rhythm during fast alt-strumming), and it is indeed less "mushy," but not noticeably so. But hey, this one actually downstrums and, so it's a big improvement over my first Strat. :lol

Whammy Bar: Totally the same. But again, unlike my old Strat, it actually springs back up, so I'm one happy camper! :p

"String" Tuners: Now you can remove this from the top of the guitar after sticking it in by holding down a button and pulling on it: good news for guys like me who have been stuck with the GH2 carrying case that's been stretched out quite a bit by the first Strat.


My recommendation? The RB1 wireless Strat, which is readily available in retail stores, works just as well (and just as poorly), so if you're in the market for a new guitar, there's no point in waiting for a wood-grain finish. But auto-calibration was a non-factor for me, so the RB2 Strat might be worth it if your TV has given you issues in the past.
 
BenjaminBirdie said:
Okay, Soup To Nuts.

How awesome is Rock Band 2 in terms of the new challenge structure for a single player? Has anyone done Band World Tour on their own?

These are the questions being asked by people whose 360s are currently under the knife.

Other than playing online with a couple people that first midnight, all I've been doing is solo.

It's awesome.

There's no messing around with who's in the band. There's actually a "game" to be played by yourself. You can make CaC's as backing members. The challenges are awesome once you start getting into the dlc themes and groupings like that.

I could go on for another three paragraphs, but my brain is so jaded about the audio problems that I'm having trouble formulating positive thoughts, hehe.
 
Raide said:
Any idea on battery life for the wireless guitar or do they use the 360 battery packs?

AAs only. Otherwise you're SOL.

Here's the button on the tuner thingy I mentioned earlier. You hold down on that center button to release it from the neck.

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Also forgot to mention these:

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Very very tiny dots on the green, yellow, and orange frets (4 dots on green and orange, 5 on yellow). I guess they're there to help your finger awareness, but I actually lost track of my finger placement a few times. Maybe that's just because I was playing Shoulder to the Plow. :/
 
Baker said:
You can make CaC's as backing members.

I've been meaning to ask, how do you set this up? I fidgeted with it for a bit but couldn't figure it out.

Also, how do you assign characters to a band? I have some characters I created that aren't associated with my band.
 
Mo the Hawk said:
Very very tiny dots on the green, yellow, and orange frets (4 dots on green and orange, 5 on yellow). I guess they're there to help your finger awareness, but I actually lost track of my finger placement a few times. Maybe that's just because I was playing Shoulder to the Plow. :/

Wtf, that just sounds awful.

One bump on the yellow is all people should need.
 
Struct09 said:
From Kotaku's interview with GHWT producer Brian Bright:



Wow...

Haven't we seen PR about bands being exclusive to one or the other?
We have. Contractually, AC/DC is exclusive to Rock Band. Aerosmith, Van Halen, and the Eagles are exclusive to Guitar Hero. Metallica going forward could be exclusive to Guitar Hero.
M3wThr33 said:
Well, the BIGGEST assumed one was Aerosmith, and we got Train Kept A'Rollin.
TKAR was transferrable because it was a cover of a song Aerosmith didn't even write.

I don't know what's up with Aerosmith – we know they're exclusive...
"It's an exclusive deal for this game," Aerosmith publicist Marcee Rondon told Harris. We confirmed this with Tim Riley, Activision's vice president of music affairs, who told us through Activision PR that "I can say that we do have the band exclusively, and their catalogue should be exclusive to us beyond the one or two tracks they had licensed out to Rock Band before we made our deal." (According to MTV's Rhythm Game Track Finder, it's one song: "Train Kept a Rollin'.")
http://kotaku.com/385130/aerosmith-exclusive-to-guitar-hero

...yet they're not in GH World Tour.
 
Struct09 said:
I've been meaning to ask, how do you set this up? I fidgeted with it for a bit but couldn't figure it out.

Also, how do you assign characters to a band? I have some characters I created that aren't associated with my band.

When you're in your practice space (Tour mode or whatever it's called), go to Band Profile. The first tab has two boxes, one for permanent members and one for alts. If you put CaC's in the alt spots, they'll show up when you play instead of the random RB characters.
 
Mo the Hawk said:
AAs only. Otherwise you're SOL.

Here's the button on the tuner thingy I mentioned earlier. You hold down on that center button to release it from the neck.


Also forgot to mention these:

Very very tiny dots on the green, yellow, and orange frets (4 dots on green and orange, 5 on yellow). I guess they're there to help your finger awareness, but I actually lost track of my finger placement a few times. Maybe that's just because I was playing Shoulder to the Plow. :/


Have you ever used the guitar before?

I've had the wireless guitar since LAUNCH and I've replaced the batteries a SINGLE time, even after forgetting to turn it off for a few nights.

Also, those dots have ALWAYS been there.

The only new part is the detachable head, which is good, but a bit late. I'm quite proficient at removing the headstock now.
 
Mo the Hawk said:
Very very tiny dots on the green, yellow, and orange frets (4 dots on green and orange, 5 on yellow). I guess they're there to help your finger awareness, but I actually lost track of my finger placement a few times. Maybe that's just because I was playing Shoulder to the Plow. :/

Those are on the original Strat too. I love them. The raised bar on the yellow key on the original SG was a little better but these dots work pretty well too.
 
M3wThr33 said:
The only new part is the detachable head, which is good, but a bit late. I'm quite proficient at removing the headstock now.

I just carry my Strat(and Frontman) in the gig bag for my real guitar. I'm too lazy to try and detach the headstock.
 
Comments on a few random subjects...

My ION kit shipped from Amazon yesterday, and is already "Out for Delivery". Should be waiting for me when I get home tonight. Yay. (It shipped from Reno, NV, to the SF Bay area in CA.)

To the folks that already have their IONs, why are you not using a more "traditional" configuration with the snare low and centered? Is it too hard to make the mental translation from chart to pad?

I mostly play bass in the game, (my wife's the drummer) so I was interested to read about that upcoming bass controller. (From Harmonix, I think?) Neat concept, but what the heck were they thinking with that split strummer? Makes no sense. The strummer is basically simulating a single string. And like a real string, one can "pick" it with as many, or few, fingers as you see fit. Why does it need to be split? Weren't the hardware failure rates high enough with a single strummer?

Since the kit is showing up, I guess I better try to find the RB2 game itself. Walmart just looked at me like I was an idiot when I asked about it, so I guess I'll hit a GameStop on the way home. Sigh.
 
Baker said:
Other than playing online with a couple people that first midnight, all I've been doing is solo.

It's awesome.

There's no messing around with who's in the band. There's actually a "game" to be played by yourself. You can make CaC's as backing members. The challenges are awesome once you start getting into the dlc themes and groupings like that.

I could go on for another three paragraphs, but my brain is so jaded about the audio problems that I'm having trouble formulating positive thoughts, hehe.

Anyone else want to chime in? I'm very curious about Solo World Tour.
 
M3wThr33 said:
Well, the BIGGEST assumed one was Aerosmith, and we got Train Kept A'Rollin.

But we never got an official explanation for Black Sabbath or Metallica, but we assumed things that weren't exclusive-related, so it's plausible.
Again, they didn't even have to ask Aerosmith's permission to export that song. It's a cover of a song that wasn't written by Aerosmith.
And I don't think it's a coincidence that the other two songs are by people who have likeness + multiple songs on disc deals for GH. (avatar + two songs for GHWT and avatars plus dozens of songs for GH: Metallica, respectively)
TheGreatDave said:
Didn't Activision release a PR all "yo, Aerosmith are exclusive, bitches!"
Yes, because they are, for now at least.
 
Just scored the new drums at Best Buy (finally). Now let's just hope they aren't defective!
 
I've got a question about the last gig in
Shanghai. At the end it said "Keep Playing" but I wasn't sure what to do at that point. Did I miss something important? It basically shot off some fireworks and went to the credits after the Judas Priest song.
 
Duck said:
Of course there are bands like Bang Camaro and Freezepop that are exclusive to Rock Band for obvious reasons

This is false. Freezepop is in Guitar Hero: On Tour.

Baker said:
When you're in your practice space (Tour mode or whatever it's called), go to Band Profile. The first tab has two boxes, one for permanent members and one for alts. If you put CaC's in the alt spots, they'll show up when you play instead of the random RB characters.

Awesome, thanks.
 
Duck said:
Really? I wonder how that came about...


editing original post

Freezepop liking money, more than likely.

Maybe I Am Not Your Gameboy wasn't something they would have felt comfortable about putting on a non-Nintendo system.
 
Ding said:
I mostly play bass in the game, (my wife's the drummer) so I was interested to read about that upcoming bass controller. (From Harmonix, I think?) Neat concept, but what the heck were they thinking with that split strummer? Makes no sense. The strummer is basically simulating a single string. And like a real string, one can "pick" it with as many, or few, fingers as you see fit. Why does it need to be split? Weren't the hardware failure rates high enough with a single strummer?

The strummer is split so you can use two fingers to strum, so you can up-strum only, like a real bass player does (assuming he isn't using a pick). It allows for speedy up-strumming (basically it lets you strum as quickly as alt-strumming, but you're only strumming up).
 
Ok here's a new one: anyone have any recommendations for a material that would absorb the thumping from the drums I can put UNDER the kit? I'm in an apartment on the 3rd floor and I'm going to be kicked out the complex if I don't figure something out.
 
StrikerObi said:
The strummer is split so you can use two fingers to strum, so you can up-strum only, like a real bass player does (assuming he isn't using a pick). It allows for speedy up-strumming (basically it lets you strum as quickly as alt-strumming, but you're only strumming up).

I actually got this today..is this a new guitar? I thought I was buying the Rock Band 2 Guitar, but I got this instead..which sadly isn't wireless.
 
Struct09 said:
Speaking of the new official bass controller with split strum bar, my local Best Buy had them in stock (for 360).

Mad Catz


consider that a warning of quality. I am however curious to how they hold up. I'm semi interested in the cymbals.
 
Went to a couple gamestops today and looks like the guitars will be in tomorrow down here in Oklahoma.

On a side note, during my travels to many stores I noticed many of the employees trying to pimp out GHWT to other people. The last employee at gamestop was.. trying to make me preorder it instead of purchase a new rock band 2 guitar? It was bizarre- but then again they are retards there. Anyone else seeing this wherever they go?
 
BenjaminBirdie said:
Anyone else want to chime in? I'm very curious about Solo World Tour.

Solo BWT is pretty much exactly the same as BWT from RB1, only you're playing by yourself. Really not much changed here.

The Tour Challenges and BOTB are the new features, and they're awesome additions. Some of these you have to do with a group, but most you can do by yourself. You can even play the challenges in a way that's the same as the old solo modes from GH/RB1 - unlocking songs tier by tier (best way to unlock songs). Otherwise challenges will be generated based on certain factors - good guitar songs, good bass songs, songs from the 90's, etc. BOTB is where the daily challenges are, and while most of these can be played with a whole band some are solo only. This week there's a solo bass BOTB challenge.

bounchfx said:
Mad Catz


consider that a warning of quality. I am however curious to how they hold up. I'm semi interested in the cymbals.

MadCatz might make it, but it's officially licensed. Honestly, I'd trust a MadCatz guitar over a Harmonix guitar =X
 
Stormwatch said:
I've got a question about the last gig in
Shanghai. At the end it said "Keep Playing" but I wasn't sure what to do at that point. Did I miss something important? It basically shot off some fireworks and went to the credits after the Judas Priest song.

You just keep playing, I think it's like an ending solo where you can play anything. Worst case scenario, you lost some points that's all.
 
How much of Band World Tour is still "You have to complete THIS setlist", and the setlist consists of pre-set songs. Me and the girlfriend stopped playing BWT last game because we got sick of every setlist having the same one or two songs we hate in (Run to the Hills, GGAHT); I know they said there would be better DLC integration, but is that just for specific gigs, or is it a game-wide "every gig is unique to your game" thing?
 
TheGreatDave said:
How much of Band World Tour is still "You have to complete THIS setlist", and the setlist consists of pre-set songs. Me and the girlfriend stopped playing BWT last game because we got sick of every setlist having the same one or two songs we hate in (Run to the Hills, GGAHT); I know they said there would be better DLC integration, but is that just for specific gigs, or is it a game-wide "every gig is unique to your game" thing?

From what i saw in what I played at a friends the other night, most of the dlc and all that showed up on the mystery lists and random setlists like rockband 1. There are still the regular lists with pre determined songs
 
TheGreatDave said:
How much of Band World Tour is still "You have to complete THIS setlist", and the setlist consists of pre-set songs. Me and the girlfriend stopped playing BWT last game because we got sick of every setlist having the same one or two songs we hate in (Run to the Hills, GGAHT); I know they said there would be better DLC integration, but is that just for specific gigs, or is it a game-wide "every gig is unique to your game" thing?

It's pretty common. The first mystery setlist that I got to had 2 songs from my DLC in it (it was three songs total)

If you have alot of DLC plus RB transferred, it's very rare to run into the same song while playing.
 
Just beat the impossible drum challenge on hard. I wouldn't call it easy, but I did pass it on the first time through and there is nothing like RttH in this that will hold me up for a few weeks like in RB1.
 
StrikerObi said:
The strummer is split so you can use two fingers to strum, so you can up-strum only, like a real bass player does (assuming he isn't using a pick). It allows for speedy up-strumming (basically it lets you strum as quickly as alt-strumming, but you're only strumming up).
Yes, I know what real bass players do. I am a real bass player. (Although not a very good one, anymore.) I pretty much exclusively up-strum in RB. (I'll sometimes alt-strum long chuggy parts, pick style.) I tend to use two fingers most of the time.

None of that requires a split strummer. (Just as playing with your fingers on a real bass does not require "split strings", if such things even existed.)

While I haven't yet tried one of these new-fangled split strummers, it seems like they would be harder to use than a regular one. You'd have to make sure the split fell exactly between two of your fingers. The slightest misalignment would result in both strummers being activated by a single pluck, which would probably register as a extra note. And if you wanted to use three fingers... well, it would be awkward.

A slightly longer-than-standard strummer would have made some sense, but two shorter-than-standard strummers? No. Just no.

[BTW, I did stop at the local GameStop, and they had the game, and the new guitar, and the new bass. I didn't ask about the drums.]
 
sneaky77 said:
From what i saw in what I played at a friends the other night, most of the dlc and all that showed up on the mystery lists and random setlists like rockband 1. There are still the regular lists with pre determined songs

I was hoping there would never be a "play this set order of songs" gig. That's just no fun for anybody. Ahh well. I'll switch between instruments to keep it interesting.
 
TheGreatDave said:
I was hoping there would never be a "play this set order of songs" gig. That's just no fun for anybody. Ahh well. I'll switch between instruments to keep it interesting.

It's usually only when you need to get a new vehicle or something. Basically to advance the game to a new area with new places.
 
I know it's been said a katrillion times, but the fact that the CPU band members are the same is just wtf weird. Yes you can CAC, etc. But still, really? Also I know I'm asking for WAAAAAy too much, but if there's no human singer (and singer is always the last to go in our group) I do wish the singer genders matched the vocalist genders even on setlists.
 
AstroLad said:
I know it's been said a katrillion times, but the fact that the CPU band members are the same is just wtf weird. Yes you can CAC, etc. But still, really? Also I know I'm asking for WAAAAAy too much, but if there's no human singer (and singer is always the last to go in our group) I do wish the singer genders matched the vocalist genders even on setlists.
I'm glad it doesn't. Seeing Barack Obama sing Bad Reputation is hilarious.
 
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