Most other games the leaderboard updates instantaneously. The only reason I can think of why it would take some time is because it all goes through EA's server or whatever EA calls them. I don't know why EA makes the user connect to their system when XBL and PSN are more than suitable.Xevren said:
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So I've been thinking back to why I was so hyped for this game in the first place, and I realized a bunch of the real reasons I was hyped for it haven't even been implemented.
As far as I've been able to tell, singing and playing guitar is still just as annoying as it was in the first game, there's been nothing done to improve the situation and I swear there were mentionings of it before...
Not to mention, I distinctly recall interviews with HMX talking about how they were going to work on a system that would let you exclude songs coming up during mystery setlists, so if you picked Expert on an instrument you could play almost every song on, it wouldn't pick the one or two songs that cause you to fail miserably. Instead, Band World Tour is pretty much unchanged with the exception of now you can play it solo or online.
Jukebox mode being left out has already been discussed, but add that to the tally.
Not to mention the fact that some things have been made considerably worse...no star display for songs? The in-game interface being noticeably less polished (it's little things, but it's annoying when the RB1 interface looks better than RB2)? Lefties being forgotten on drums? I'm not sure this early launch on 360 was worth it...
As far as I've been able to tell, singing and playing guitar is still just as annoying as it was in the first game, there's been nothing done to improve the situation and I swear there were mentionings of it before...
Not to mention, I distinctly recall interviews with HMX talking about how they were going to work on a system that would let you exclude songs coming up during mystery setlists, so if you picked Expert on an instrument you could play almost every song on, it wouldn't pick the one or two songs that cause you to fail miserably. Instead, Band World Tour is pretty much unchanged with the exception of now you can play it solo or online.
Jukebox mode being left out has already been discussed, but add that to the tally.
Not to mention the fact that some things have been made considerably worse...no star display for songs? The in-game interface being noticeably less polished (it's little things, but it's annoying when the RB1 interface looks better than RB2)? Lefties being forgotten on drums? I'm not sure this early launch on 360 was worth it...
Is this game really running through EA's servers? I thought you actually had to have a unique login / ID for those servers independent of your XBLA name, similar to Konami's eighty-billion-login MGSO.EazyB said:
I guess I thought EA was just a distributor and wasn't really involved in the game's mechanics otherwise. Could be mistaken!
DeathbyVolcano
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I disagree, I think RB2 looks much cleaner and cooler than RB1
BrandNew said:
One look at the new ugly stretched multiplier counter, and the way the fadeout animation just cuts off at the end of the song rather than actually fading out disagrees with your opinion.
The animations behind the interface are loads better, first thing I noticed, but I think the interface itself took a turn for the worse. It's mainly the shitty multiplier counter, it feels like a placeholder, I can't stand it.
Plaguefox said:Is this game really running through EA's servers? I thought you actually had to have a unique login / ID for those servers independent of your XBLA name, similar to Konami's eighty-billion-login MGSO.
I guess I thought EA was just a distributor and wasn't really involved in the game's mechanics otherwise. Could be mistaken!
You are not mistaken. EA is only the distributor and co-marketer for the game, they have nothing to do with the publishing or development. I doubt any of the back end servers used are hosted by EA.
I think you and I could talk at great length about the tiny little inconsistencies and misalignments strewn throughout this game's interface. Is it worth mentioning that the main song-name font in the results screen is obviously low-resolution even when rendering at only 720p? Or that the descriptive text on the Modify Game menu is in full-caps using a typeface that looks far better in proper case? Especially since we're talking about sentences? Or what about the oddly uncentered text on the prompts before events in BWT like the Music Video prompt?DarkJC said:
It might be fun, actually, spotting all the places where it seems the UI team was rushed and couldn't nudge X,Y coordinates or make a higher resolution bitmap font.
The game is still very classy, and the UI is far more usable than the last iteration. So I'll live. I could niggle for hours, though.
Plaguefox said:
Sure, there's tons of little things. I guess my point was that although those are there, none of them are as completely crappy and obvious as that damn new multiplier. Keep everything else for all I care, just give me back the old multiplier (or give me one that isn't stretched) ;_;
The multiplier counter looks fine. Probably the only guy who thinks this, but whatever.DarkJC said:
The updated look of the menus are great. Being greeted with a badass tiger, the transition and blur effects, and the "message of the day" giving out factoids/news/tips are all really cool things. The new quickplay selection is also great, seeing the album title and artwork accompany everything, and it's much easier to navigate with holding down the yellow fret and choosing whatever section you want to go to.
However, I will say that the lack of stars and discernment of difficulty regarding scoring on quickplay is absolutely appalling, and the fact that this oversight made it through all of HMX's testing onto the disc is even more so.
I just hope that Harmonix is listening to all the community feedback and will put effort into a RB2 patch and not RB3.
Oh yeah, speaking of the messages before the song and arena loads, why the hell do 95% of them consist of giving out brain-dead advice like "when the note comes across the bottom of the screen, strum!" I'm playing Master Exploder on expert, I know that shit already. I'd rather see, y'know, trivia about the band whose song I'll be playing.
I've seen literally 4-6 band-related quips in the dozen or so hours I've played this game: one for Abnormality, one for Muse, one for the Pixies, one for Bang Camaro, one for... um, I can't remember anything else. I really enjoyed all the trivia in RB1, and even though it's still here and they've went as far as to add new messages for RB1 and RB DLC bands, the percentage of the time I've been seeing it is far lower compared to RB1.
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I've seen literally 4-6 band-related quips in the dozen or so hours I've played this game: one for Abnormality, one for Muse, one for the Pixies, one for Bang Camaro, one for... um, I can't remember anything else. I really enjoyed all the trivia in RB1, and even though it's still here and they've went as far as to add new messages for RB1 and RB DLC bands, the percentage of the time I've been seeing it is far lower compared to RB1.
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I wish I had my 360 up so I could be more specific. But every time you boot up RB (and Burnout) it says "Connecting to EA Central Server" or something like that. A couple times it's initially failed to connect to them and I I couldn't access the leaderboards or go to the music store when XBL was fully operationable. I believe the message also pops up after a song.Struct09 said:
That's the only explanation I could think of as to why the leaderboards are slow to update. All other games running strictly through XBL update the leaderboards instantaneously.
Ok, thanks for clearing that up. I know EA's involvement but my point still stands. RB, like other EA published games, connects to something outside of XBL which no other game I know of outside of EA games like Burnout, Army of Two, and all their sports games. If that's just a crazy coincidence then color me surprised, but it seems it has something to do with EA publishing the game. It must be this roundabout updating the leaderboards that causes the delay. Unless someone else has a better explanation.saunderez said:
Well Geometry Wars 2 must connect to some kind of outside server because the leaderboards don't track all the individual scores. Bizarre must have a server up somewhere that tracks these. It's been a while but I don't remember GH3 taking so long to update the leaderboards. It did initially but I think they fixed that.EazyB said:
Duck said:
The interface doesn't really bother me too much other than the fact that I would like to see it more polished, in addition to my aforementioned gripes re leaderboards, lack of seamless video sections, etc. But this trivia thing always takes the cake in terms of "how much work would that really take?" You could probably have a contest on gaf or scorehero, giving away absolutely nothing, and you'd wind up with 50-100 great quips/trivia/anecdotes about each band. If you gave away a tag or something, you'd have thousands.
Yea I definitely agree about the loading screens. Why are they telling me to whammy during a sustain with overdrive, that shit is pretty much common knowledge to anyone who's played rhythm games anymore (at least I would really hope so). I really like the band trivia and half the time I just get useless garbage.
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I was on the PlayStation Store today and they're selling the export thing on there already and the game only came out a week ago.
That strikes me as odd.
That strikes me as odd.
I can't see them ignoring that group. It'll have to be given out somehow.
Anyways, played the songs. 'She's a Handsome Woman' seemed to have me missing notes I knew I hit. (On Drums Expert) Maybe I wasn't hitting hard enough.
I also exported my songs. They go right into the Game Data for Rock Band. No choosing what songs get exported. Fine with me, but I know others will dislike that.
Anyways, played the songs. 'She's a Handsome Woman' seemed to have me missing notes I knew I hit. (On Drums Expert) Maybe I wasn't hitting hard enough.
I also exported my songs. They go right into the Game Data for Rock Band. No choosing what songs get exported. Fine with me, but I know others will dislike that.
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I'm positive RB1 was the last disc you'll be able to export for $5 (+possible price of rental). The use of codes seems likely to encourage the purchase of new discs.M3wThr33 said:
McBradders said:
I thought that all the new DLC (as of a week or two ago) requires the latest update for the game, and the latest update for the game has the export feature built in to the menus.
Supposedly the latest update is out for the PAL PS3 version and I guess it made sense for them to put the export key on the store now to stop people asking where it is on the EU Stores if they don't.
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MadFuzzy said:
It just kinda got my hopes up that we wouldn't be waiting so long for 2 to hit.
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Ten-Song said:
:lol
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Ten-Song said:
I think it looks ok as well. Again, it is just people looking for something to complain about.
TheGreatDave
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Just got Rock Band 2.
Balls.
Balls.
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TheGreatDave said:
Whut???
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McBradders said:
I put down a preorder. I apparently forgot to cancel it. I swear I did, mine you, but whatever.
Here's the supposed list of trophies for the PS3 version of Rock Band 2 (51 in total apparently).
Costanza said:
Only if they added things from their first cd (Showbiz). Muscle Museum or Sunburn anyone?
I have had wet dreams at night about playing these songs
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TheGreatDave said:
So it sits and taunts you?
Have you tried booting it up?
McBradders said:
Someone over on the RB forums who works at Gamestation reports that it's now appeared on their system with a date of November 21st. Believe?
Edit: PS3 owners are still shafted, of course. But you'd then expect an early 2009 launch for the PS3 version, which isn't too bad.
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iapetus said:
N-november 21st?
I might kiss you if this are true. Tongues and everything.
Knowing our luck, though, it's probably the PS2/Wii expansion discs
I know that not many people will share this sentiment, and how do I dare criticize the mighty Harmonix, I am kind of dissapointed with this game, it seems like it was a rush job. I still enjoy playing it but there is something missing for me to completely click with it like I loved RB1, maybe there are just that many songs I do not like, comparing to previous games. And some of the songs I like, but the charts are just ugh.. like testify for example.
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