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Cheech said:
HP Sauce is like A1.
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In all fairness A1 is amazingly thin and watery. My biggest problem with it is that while it tastes fine I won't put it on a decent steak because it would ruin it, but I don't want to eat an inferior steak so it just sits in the fridge unused most of the time. I guess I could put it on burgers, but that's what ketchup is for and I'm a creature of habit.

Cheech said:
If you're British or of British descent, it tastes better. If you're born and bred Yankee, it tastes like ass.
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I was born in Connecticut, it's hard to get much more Yankee than that. You also now have me considering the relative comparisons of tossing salad with various brown sauces (and possibly a few times without for the control). This is not likely to be a productive area of thought.
 
Cheech said:
It's how we like our beer, so this makes sense.
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I have been and continue to be straight edge so I wouldn't properly be able to judge the differences, but ales do seem like they would be superior. Of course, America often succeeds in lowering the common denominator as far as it will go and then making that the popular standard. Still, the prevalence of lagers has a lot more to do with most of our major breweries being founded by German immigrants.

A trustworthy friend did once describe Beck's Dark as "vile German swill" and I've rarely seen her so disgusted with a beer before. Even cheap mass-market American swill.

TheGreatDave said:
Sauce ruins a sandwich. I want to taste bacon, not HP Meat.
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So... just bread and bacon?!? Why even bother to adopt the pretense that it's a sandwich?

Also, America needs to get over this BLT crap. I have no desire to pollute my bacon with that disgusting, alkaline monstrosity that is the tomato. They were thought to be poisonous for a reason (actually, a very good reason because they used to be before it was bred out and are relatives of nightshade, but this brief aside of truth is still secondary to my point) and people would do well to keep the raw versions well away from my food.
 
Cheech said:
LOL @ Fall Out Boy.

That said, I would eat my balls if we don't get great weeks from now until at least late November. They are going to need to combat the hype of the new Guitar Hero.

Given some of the wretched weeks we've had lately, they've been sandbagging furiously for this.
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Same here. Quite frankly I wouldn't be surprised if we got an album a week until the PS3 launch, where we get the rest of the albums and maybe the 20 free songs. I'm sure as hell not expecting it, but I wouldn't be surprised.
Received RB2 on Friday and the guitar was just delivered today. Can't wait till I get home. Never played the first RB nor any of the Guitar Hero's.
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Really? Holy shit, give us your impressions when you can.

And also some advice: start on easy, at least for the first few songs. Then slowly progress to medium, and don't be afraid to back down to easy if you feel it's too hard. Once you do progress completely to medium, try to beat everything on that level. Once you get to the final tier or so and likely get into trouble, you should progress to hard, and so on.

I started with the music game genre with GH2 in April '07, and when I got RB1 in December I was barely doing hard, and passing the intro on Wanted Dead or Alive on expert made me feel like the ultimate badass. Now I can do that intro easily 9 months later.

So just take your time. If you're not completely dedicated like I was it'll take you almost a year to progress to expert and nail every little thing. So don't get frustrated if you feel like you're not progressing fast enough.


edit: food discussion? in my rock band thread? it's more likely than you think.
 
I want to meet the person that decides tiers for vocals. I FC'ed Testify without trying but nearly failed Lump. Any song that is predominantly (or all) talkies should automatically be tier 1.
 
Duck said:
And also some advice: start on easy, at least for the first few songs. Then slowly progress to medium, and don't be afraid to back down to easy if you feel it's too hard. Once you do progress completely to medium, try to beat everything on that level. Once you get to the final tier or so and likely get into trouble, you should progress to hard, and so on.
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Prfft, start on hard like me! :D
 
Johnkers said:
Prfft, start on hard like me! :D
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Agreed. I played one song in a shop on Easy and found it mind-numbingly simple. When I finally got GH1 I started on Medium and had no problems. Towards the end of Hard I, like many, switched over to Expert where it got easier and made me better at beating the end of Hard.

TheGreatDave said:
Don't play any instrument on easy unless you hate life.
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I sing on Easy, but only because I loathe singing and am amazingly bad at it. I might, in all fairness, be able to do Medium, but why? I find the very concept of karaoke to be an abomination. Why do I want to somehow get better at it and make it harder on myself? Vocals, also, unlike drums or guitar/bass are inscrutable. It's one thing to know exactly what to do (i.e. hit this button/pad on time) and quite another to be unable to determine the pitch properly and have no idea how to make your voice do that. Better vocal coaching in the tutorials is absolutely necessary. Not just a fucking explanation of how it works for people too lazy/dumb to read the bloody manual.
 
I'd be interested to see how the learning curve in these games has changed over the years. GH1 had the perfect learning curve, but it's impossible for me (and probably the majority of posters here) to experience that kind of learning curve now.
 
TheGreatDave said:
I only sing on hard. I'm not good in any way, I fail some songs after 30 seconds, but I find it so patronising on medium or (God forbid) easy.
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I only sing expert, skipped medium and hard.
I would probably fail most of the songs alone, but we only play when we're together so they can save me everytime I fail.
Also it helped to know most of the songs already.
 
I sing on medium to hard depending on the song. Mostly because it allows me to sing a bit more free-form without being so punishing. The more I try to JUST get a decent score on more difficult songs, the more terrible I sound to those around me as I'm not really putting the focus on singing, but more on where that pesky little bar is.
 
I only sing on Expert. I find the lower difficulties no challenge. Even though I'm pretty consistent with the 5 stars I sound horrible and I pity anybody that has to listen to me belting out Nine in the Afternoon.
 
Struct09 said:
I'd be interested to see how the learning curve in these games has changed over the years. GH1 had the perfect learning curve, but it's impossible for me (and probably the majority of posters here) to experience that kind of learning curve now.
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I'll let you know. I'm a total noob. Will try to start on medium. Hopefully I won't have to drop down to easy.
 


Groove Assassin, Stage Igniters, and Virtuoso comin' up!

I failed Bodhisattva guitar during the last stretch of Y-B trills :/
 
I sing on easy because 1) I hardly sing and 2) I suck at singing, and if I went up to medium it'd take the fun out of singing.

And to boost my e-pein, I play guitar and drums on expert. Though honestly, I wish I had never progressed to expert on drums as it takes all the fun out of the instrument. Doing triple bass beats in Just What I Needed or doing bass beats in We Got The Beat (lol) all the frickin' time just isn't fun for me. I'd go onto a hyperspeed'd hard difficulty, but then I know I'm missing out on some drums fills I'd like to do. :\


Also, I got halfway through Sleepwalker before failing out at some backwards-ass Carry On Wayward Son-like hammer-ons, right before the mosh. Screw that song, my hands really hurt.
 
Mo the Hawk said:


Groove Assassin, Stage Igniters, and Virtuoso comin' up!

I failed Bodhisattva guitar during the last stretch of Y-B trills :/
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Huh? That song isn't even in the running for toughest on the RB2 set list.
 
onemic said:
100% getting moving pictures tomorrow
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You know, they didn't announce that they were pulling it last time. It just didn't show up. Just sayin'. :(
 
Johnkers said:
I dono, I just like having fun!
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As a huge fan of the Tony Hawk games, I appreciate these references.

And, btw, I totally agreed with Joel when he said it. I almost knew his reaction before hand...
 
The Jer said:
Where are your principles?!

Getting "YYZ" (Rush), "Tom Sawyer" (Rush), "Bandages" (Hot Hot Heat) and "Sorrow" (Bad Religion)
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That's what I'll probably be getting too. I may talk myself into getting the entirety of Moving Pictures but I only really want YYZ and Tom Sawyer.
 
Really? Holy shit, give us your impressions when you can.

And also some advice: start on easy, at least for the first few songs. Then slowly progress to medium, and don't be afraid to back down to easy if you feel it's too hard. Once you do progress completely to medium, try to beat everything on that level. Once you get to the final tier or so and likely get into trouble, you should progress to hard, and so on.

I started with the music game genre with GH2 in April '07, and when I got RB1 in December I was barely doing hard, and passing the intro on Wanted Dead or Alive on expert made me feel like the ultimate badass. Now I can do that intro easily 9 months later.

So just take your time. If you're not completely dedicated like I was it'll take you almost a year to progress to expert and nail every little thing. So don't get frustrated if you feel like you're not progressing fast enough.
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Thanks for the advice, I went through the 3 tutorials but pretty much failed miserably on the last part of the "Freakin Hard Tutorial".

Played 5 or 6 songs on medium and got 90%+ on them, which the other 10% I blame on my mentally challenged pinky finger :lol (damn that red+blue, middle finger+pinky, combo)

Just started my band "Albino Wildebeasts", the random "Headless Wildebeasts" was already taken :(
 
anybody else having trouble with calibrating the guitar on an LCD monitor? Keeps saying "couldn't get a reliable reading"

I'll try it again later when it's a bit darker in my room.
 
Kryptonic said:
anybody else having trouble with calibrating the guitar on an LCD monitor? Keeps saying "couldn't get a reliable reading"

I'll try it again later when it's a bit darker in my room.
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I never got that but I had to calibrate it three times before I got it right (still seems a little off).
 
Getting all moving pictures (first time I got more then 2 tracks off a released album), The Cult, and Bad Religion. :rock
 
Kryptonic said:
anybody else having trouble with calibrating the guitar on an LCD monitor? Keeps saying "couldn't get a reliable reading"

I'll try it again later when it's a bit darker in my room.
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Create a cone with your hand around the sensor (make sure you do it around the sensor directly next to the Start button.... the little black hole is NOT the light sensor (I spent over an hour fucking around with it until I realized that) ) and turn the lights off. It'll better direct the light into the sensor.
 
Kryptonic said:
anybody else having trouble with calibrating the guitar on an LCD monitor? Keeps saying "couldn't get a reliable reading"

I'll try it again later when it's a bit darker in my room.
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Try calibrating in a pitch black room. Also make sure your brightness isn't to overpowering as it gives false positives to the sensor.
 
fistfulofmetal said:
Create a cone with your hand around the sensor (make sure you do it around the sensor directly next to the Start button.... the little black hole is NOT the light sensor (I spent over an hour fucking around with it until I realized that) ) and turn the lights off. It'll better direct the light into the sensor.
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Awesome, that worked, thanks. I think they recommended that on the 1up show but I forgot about it.
 
One thing I just remembered about the auto-calibration is that, well... I use headphones. I doubt the sound that calibrates the audio would be loud enough to be recognizable by the guitar.

I could hook up the audio through the TV, but I'm guessing there's less lag going straight to headphones than there would be going through TV speakers, and thus the audio calibration would be messed up once I go back to headphones.


great.
 
Kryptonic said:
Played 5 or 6 songs on medium and got 90%+ on them, which the other 10% I blame on my mentally challenged pinky finger :lol (damn that red+blue, middle finger+pinky, combo)
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Going to give you a bit of advice that will sound nuts, but do it and I guarantee later play will be easier:

Place your middle finger on yellow.

Essentially, you want index to be red, middle to be yellow, ring to be blue. Your index will take care of both red and green (its dexterous enough to handle the job) and move your middle to yellow when you need it (for the green+red chords, but remember that green+yellow chords are also index/middle fingering).
The reason to do this is two-fold. First, you will then be using your strongest fingers for 95% of your play in medium (rarely will you find that you'll use your pinky, usually in scales, or shifting chords back and forth) and 90% in hard.
The second reason, and far more imporant, is that it'll help you immensely in handling the transition from medium to hard (the most difficult transition in the game). Playing on hard and expert, the correct hand position is middle finger on yellow. Learn that in medium, and you'll be way ahead of the curve.


edit: Belgand: you're insane if you're trying to suggest that you can't find proper british foods in San Francisco, and you're batshit crazy to suggest that good cheese can't be easily found. Of all the cities in the US, San Francisco is one of the most epicurially diverse and cultured. An elitist attitude to have, but one well deserved.
 
Peace Sells... But Who's Buying is probably the best deal for DLC. There is just so much room to get better at those songs. The difficulty is awesome. I'm at the point where I can beat them all on expert guitar and all but one on expert drums. Love playing these songs on both instruments. Nothing else plays like them.
 
Duck said:
One thing I just remembered about the auto-calibration is that, well... I use headphones. I doubt the sound that calibrates the audio would be loud enough to be recognizable by the guitar.

I could hook up the audio through the TV, but I'm guessing there's less lag going straight to headphones than there would be going through TV speakers, and thus the audio calibration would be messed up once I go back to headphones.


great.
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Or you could just put your headphones at max volume against the microphone on the guitar.
 
I'm off to sleep... but I already programed my alarm clock to wake me up at 3 A.M -When usually DLC appears available here- so that I can download the full Moving Pictures album as soon as it hits the Intertubes, and while the download finishes, I'll finish my homework.

People, buy Red Barchetta. You'll thank us later.
 
AMUSIX said:
Going to give you a bit of advice that will sound nuts, but do it and I guarantee later play will be easier:

Place your middle finger on yellow.

Essentially, you want index to be red, middle to be yellow, ring to be blue. Your index will take care of both red and green (its dexterous enough to handle the job) and move your middle to yellow when you need it (for the green+red chords, but remember that green+yellow chords are also index/middle fingering).
The reason to do this is two-fold. First, you will then be using your strongest fingers for 95% of your play in medium (rarely will you find that you'll use your pinky, usually in scales, or shifting chords back and forth) and 90% in hard.
The second reason, and far more imporant, is that it'll help you immensely in handling the transition from medium to hard (the most difficult transition in the game). Playing on hard and expert, the correct hand position is middle finger on yellow. Learn that in medium, and you'll be way ahead of the curve.
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I actually disagree with this. I'm a big believer in sliding over stretching - meaning that you only do a stretch when it's absolutely necessary (which isn't terribly often). It makes the jump from medium to hard probably more difficult, but it comes in very handy later on when you're doing zig-zags and such.

But different people play different ways, it's probably more important to find out what works best for you. I could never play expert while having my middle finger on yellow 100% of the time, I slide as I go along.
 
Struct09 said:
I actually disagree with this. I'm a big believer in sliding over stretching - meaning that you only do a stretch when it's absolutely necessary (which isn't terribly often). It makes the jump from medium to hard probably more difficult, but it comes in very handy later on when you're doing zig-zags and such.

But different people play different ways, it's probably more important to find out what works best for you. I could never play expert while having my middle finger on yellow 100% of the time, I slide as I go along.
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Hmm, I'll certainly agree with sliding, but I'm still of the mind that middle finger on yellow should be your 'home row'. Essentially, it's a hell of a lot easier to shift your index down to green (be it a slide or a stretch) than it is to move your pinky up to orange. Heck, there are certain sequences where I've got middle on blue.
 
I probably do it completely wrong, but I let my pinky do all the work on blue / orange (unless its a blue / orange hold obviously).
 
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