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On guitar, I prefer all of the new masters to the covers. Even YYZ.
woot... almost 4-starred red barchetta on expert vocals without looking at the vocal track at all 
I'm not a good singer, I just REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY know the song.
will play more after I get home from work.
I'll have to play it later and see how I feel about the charts.. but if the chart is accurate to the song (easier or not) I'm still going to have to call it the better version due to it just being the master.
I'm not a good singer, I just REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY know the song.
will play more after I get home from work.
to be fair, it's really hard to compare the two charts being one is, you know.. a cover and all.. I mean GH2 YYZ for as good as it was WAS noticeably different in many parts (for huge Rush fans at least).AndyMoogle said:
I'll have to play it later and see how I feel about the charts.. but if the chart is accurate to the song (easier or not) I'm still going to have to call it the better version due to it just being the master.
TheGreatDave
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Every single version of a song Harmonix did for GH:2 was more complicated than their RB version. It's not a coincidence. Rock Band is a dumbed down game.
TheGreatDave
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And Jesus, I'm so sick of the same old g/r > g/y for chord switches, rather than just having it be g/r > r/y or something. Holding down green and just switching which higher fret I hold down isn't as fun as moving your hand.
In positive news; Bandages is so awesome.
In positive news; Bandages is so awesome.
McBradders
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TheGreatDave said:
Where am expert drum video?
Really not sure about other songs, but in the case of YYZ, the Rock Band chart is FAR more accurate to the song. In some cases this is due to GH2 having a cover version (the HO trills at about 1:20 are completely wrong, and much more difficult in Rock Band) but there was more than the cover to blame. In GH2, there were note changes charted where they shouldn't be (the strum pattern at about 1:30 into the song is a great example of this) or there were strums charted when there shouldn't be (the sound of the fingers stopping the strings by lifting off the fretboard shouldn't be charted). All in all, the Rock Band YYZ is the superior version, not to mention the more challenging.TheGreatDave said:
But, again, this is only YYZ I'm talking about, I don't know about the other cross-over tracks.
TheGreatDave
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AMUSIX said:
I really don't care which is "accurate". I care which is more fun.
Well, after playing this YYZ, I'll go with Rock Band's.TheGreatDave said:
I'd think you'd lean towards the track that is more challenging, in which case you'll prefer the Rock Band version as well.
As an example...for a particular tapped trill, RB charts it as:
R-Y-R-Y-B-O-B-O-B
while GH2 charts it as a slower:
O-B-Y-B-O-B-O
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TheGreatDave said:
Why don't we just have the chart for Outside on every song then.
TheGreatDave
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AMUSIX said:
I don't find the RB version to be all that more challenging, except for the fact I'm used to playing it another way. Once I get used to it I should be able to improve my (currently shitty) score.
Johnkers said:
No
Any repetition fucks me up. I always get the first 6 or 7 note patterns and then begin to fail at it. I tried to play it again tonight and just like usual, ~98% up to the repeating pattern, then failure in 10 seconds. I think that'll probably be the last time I ever try it.TheGreatDave
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I've only beat GGAHT once. Thankfully, once is enough.
AndyMoogle
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Personally I didn't think it was that hard and I'm not really that good at this game. I'm a decent expert player and that's about it. I beat it on my second try :/
mr_sockochris
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QVT said:
Me either. GGAHT on expert was the first song I actually failed in Rock Band at too, everything else I beat 1st time, 5 starring pretty much everything too. By comparison I beat Freebird on my 3rd attempt and Im a much better player now than I was then.
I would say I agree with this. At this point with as much expert as most of us have under our belts, the only expert=failure songs that should exist are like the impossible tier DLC out there to make Dave and others happy. But if a song isn't that balls to the walls nuts on guitar (or whatever other instrument) then for most of us a lot of songs will seem "easy" just because we've had... well.... for me almost three years of these plastic guitar games.QVT said:
at some point it is/was an eventuality for these games to stop being about the challenge of beating the songs (except for the top tier or so) and more about the online score aspect of it, especially with friends lists.
Milchmonster
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3 letters are all I need to say:
YYZ
YYZ
borghe said:
I don't think Dave or most of the people in this topic are fans of the fucking retardedly difficult songs. In fact playing with Dave last week he (stupidly) chose a Dream Theater song that we both bought for god knows why and a minute into the song I got a message "fuck this" after he gave up on the song
I think it's already reached the point of online score aspect, and has for a while now. At least for most of us. At least on guitar.
McBradders
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So my playing for fun is invalid?
BenjaminBirdie
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McBradders said:So my playing for fun is invalid?
I've got anyone's back on that score.
shut up. this isn't supposed to be fun. if you want fun, go get your fischer price my first guitar and stop wasting our time on this. fun is for girls who can't stand the heatMcBradders said:So my playing for fun is invalid?
I LOVE playing Eye of the Tiger
TheGreatDave
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borghe said:but you DO find it to be more challenging (given the "all that more" qualifier) thus NEGATING your comment that all GH2 charts were harder.
so yeah.
Like I said, it's just cos it's new. Technically, I think it's easier. It feels more compressed and requires less hand movement, and stuff like the intro and chordy section after the first "verse" are much easier.
And like Johnkers said, I'm not somebody that enjoys playing really hard songs. I think it's important to have them in the game to keep it challenging, but when it comes to DLC my ideal stuff is songs like The Who megapack, or Rush. Not Dream Theater and All That Remains. What bugs me is simplification of charts, not songs being easy. Ideally I want to get gold on everything first time
TheGreatDave
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birdman said:
I think the guitar chart is fantastically awesome. It's the kind of song I love playing.
bryehn said:
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Love Spreads is amazing on everything.
crowphoenix
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Johnkers said:
That would explain why I didn't feel a purpose in my life. I must rectify this.
TheGreatDave
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Holy shit, there's such a radical difference between Shoot The Runner on GH:3 and RB. Probably the biggest of any song EVA. The charting and mix is completely different.
TheGreatDave
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birdman said:
I'd love more Hot Hot Heat. I haven't listened to much since Makeup, are their other albums as good? I have them all downloaded but if I ever feel like listening to them I can't resist Naked In The City Again or This Town, so I just listen to that album.
TheGreatDave
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The sound just cut out on me completely for about 5 seconds while playing YYZ. How ODD.
I will admit that the cult looks boring on guitar. I'm guessing drums and vocals are much more fun on this song. Stone Roses looks like a lot of fun. Red Barchetta looks like just a flat out fun as song to play. I am dying here to get home. Looks amazingly fun and judging from the chart and lyrics may be my favorite song in the game. the rest of moving pictures looks fun as well (and limelight seems quite a bit improved over the cover's chart)Struct09 said:
McBradders
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I love this thread. I love you guys.
Even that dude who consistently creams over heavy metal and hates on Costanza.
Even that dude who consistently creams over heavy metal and hates on Costanza.
TheGreatDave
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Sp3eD said:
Is it? I remember the crazy middle zig zag solo being harder in GH2, but it has been awhile.
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