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Rock Paper Shotgun's GOTY 2013 [John Walker responds to your deep concerns]
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You are adorable.
Desktop Dungeons is fucking awesome, but you go on being so hardcore to the max.
I wouldn't be so sure. People write some crazy stuff when TLOA or whatever isn't on a GOTY list.
For the record, I liked TLOA.
CrackPebbles
Member
If anything Desktop Dungeons looks hardcore to the max, any reason why its labeled as "casual" on steam? I think It looks neat.
I didn't mean to hit a sore spot. =P But usually, half of the Best Picture nominees at the Oscars are movies hardly anyone has seen let alone heard of. I've never looked at whether they were made by big production companies, though, so I can't speak to that.
I didn't say what I wanted award-givers to pick. If RPS really thinks all those indies belong on a top 24 list, that's fine. It just doesn't mean much to me without doing a lot of research into all those games.
SillyEskimo
Member
This is the type of list you come up with when you're PC only.
Ohhh. That clears it up a bit.
bengraven
Member
Basically this.
Seeing a major gaming outlet only putting AAA games as GOTY would be similar to what the OP said about indie games.
That said, indie games WERE better this year than AAA games.
SneakyStephan
Banned
derrick likes BATMAN games so I'd agree but
defend skyrim's combat, UI and performance at launch as well as the general buggyness (animations and AI for bonus points!)
go on
I want to see you try
GAF, stop embarrassing me.
It runs on basically any PC made in the last decade. Maybe that's it.
It not an easy game by any stretch.
It runs on basically any PC made in the last decade. Maybe that's it.
It not an easy game by any stretch.
Imp the Dimp
Member
That was years ago, and that writer quit RPS. Get over it.
He quit? Justice has been served then.
I like RPS's list quite a lot in fact. I feel that 9 out of 10 AAA games are money-hatted, overhyped, score-inflated trash cans not worthy of anybody's time with gameplay so shallow, they straight up insult my intelligence. Thank god for not awarding press-A-for-awesome games any more accolades.
Blackthorn
"hello?" "this is vagina"
Black Flag is one of the biggest games this year in both production and sales and it's on the list.
davonaytor
Member
I'm glad Call of Juarez Gunslinger made it on there, that was a real surprise for me this year. A great list of games overall.
Well I was mocking him with the whole "hardcore" thing, but you're right, there's no reason that game should be listed as "casual." It gets REALLY fucking hard, really fast. A lot of the game's later mechanics can be hard for me to wrap my head around.
CrackPebbles
Member
Yeah I kinda got that impression, cool.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Anybody with decent taste in fun and cool has Gunslinger on their list.
EDIT: And the Dishonored DLC is probably the best DLC of the year.
EDIT: And the Dishonored DLC is probably the best DLC of the year.
Hahaha it is impossible to know that after reading some of the crazy on this board.
Also, KRZ was great. Fantastic atmosphere and writing.
Can Crusher
Banned
Nothing more hardcore than a hardcore puzzle game at number 2. Personally X Com Enemy Within was my PC game of the year. But I got some love for puzzle games, I play candy crush playboy.
Do I sound sore? The usual complaint is that I'm an unemotional robot with no feelings.
In your sphere of friends, sure, maybe. I'm not sure how you would want to quantify "hardly anyone has heard of," though. Some of the biggest Oscar winners of all time include The Lord of the Rings trilogy and Titanic.
I think this is less a situation of nobody has heard of them and more a situation where you haven't heard of them.
I can. I'm telling you it's true.
Absolutely, I have no idea whether RPS are right or not. It's possible they are picking these just to be different, but then, if we begin to doubt motives like this, then everyone who picks any huge blockbuster game may just be doing it because they've sold out to the man, and then we can't accept any conclusion because everyone might be on the take.
Lactose_Intolerant
Member
Making yourself look bad. Game is awesome
DarkLiberator
Banned
They have Gunslinger and Europa Universalis in that list. Fine with me. I find it strange to see ACIV and Papers, Please in the same top 10.
Remember, these are opinions from the RPS writers. If you guys don't like it, opinions man.
Remember, these are opinions from the RPS writers. If you guys don't like it, opinions man.
shinobi602
Member
You know better than this!
The big list is unranked in spite of the numbers. The only game that was singled out is KRZ.
I am surprised they had Gone home out of top 10 after their reviews.
Reality check by the rest of the stuff, I guess
Having not played the game, I want to distinguish these completely reasonable criticisms and observations from "why are there so many indie games" arguments.
That is, it is entirely possible that this list can be criticized and rebutted in lots of perfectly valid ways -- it's just that "I have not personally heard of this game, so they must be picking it to seem hipster" is not among those ways.
Minsc
Gold Member
The problem with thinking AAA game filled lists are so great is it seems like for every great AAA game one likes, there's about 20 indie games they never heard of that are just as fun, maybe not your idea of fun, but still fun enough for other people that'd they'd potentially rate them to be the better game.
eot
Banned
It's not top 10, they just do it like an advent calendar. All the games are unranked except the one on dec. 24th
andregnreis
Member
Dota 2 as a 2012 game...? Dont Starve in first...? Well, good to see different opinions of course. And RPS is more PC oriented so we dont see any handheld games there, GTA or Last of Us.
Magic Mushroom
Member
Why are we giving importance to what you say? People have different opinions and they do a good job at motivating their choices. Perhaps you should read it before judging.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDj-ZOqFiLI#t=23m10s
a community life GAF is going to be right on the fault line of the industry's present re-evaluation of what is considered to be a stand out title. when charlie brooker was painted into a corner by a channel 4 anchor mocking the worth of the medium, he didn't reach for the last of us, he reached for papers' please?
I wouldn't dream of it. Still managed to be one of those games that rose above that for me, though. I like the Batman games as well though, so...
eot
Banned
"(Aside from the GOTY, this list is unranked)"
Ooops, missed that one. Still, one out of 24...
Ventilaator
Banned
The ones on that list I've played are all great and deserving of the spot.
I mean gah outrage these games weren't made with hundreds of people for millions of dollars so these aren't games what were they thinking gah dumb.
I mean gah outrage these games weren't made with hundreds of people for millions of dollars so these aren't games what were they thinking gah dumb.