Romney considers 2016 bid. Legit Shook.

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Yeah they tried to get some people to step up, and they quickly failed. I just meant, when you look at the overall lineup of people running, it's 99% the people from the last time. So it actually makes sense Mitt is still liked more then them. Since the other folks are fuckin insane or terrible (and that's saying something, that good ol Mitt seems stable compared to them loool).

But yeah, they did try. I wonder how Chris Christie plays into this. The right seems to fuckin hate him after he thanked Obama and praised him. He also has all those scandals. And yet, some people like him? I dunno. If it wasn't for the party hating him, I wouldn't be sure.



Really, all it takes. Howard Dean scream ya'll.

I already voted for Christie... I live in NJ.
 
The primaries this cycle might be the best yet. Holy crap.

I cannot adequately put into words my excitement and anticipation for the 2016 Republican Primary. Just imagining the possible cast of candidates makes me giddy:

- Paul Ryan
- Rand Paul
- Ted Cruz
- Mike Hukabee
- Rick Santorum
- Rick Perry
- Ben Carson
- Bobby Jindal
- Chris Christie
- Jeb Bush
- Mitt Romney

The debates will honestly be the pinnacle of entertainment television. It will literally never get any better. Goddamnit.
 
Didn't they shove an alien roach in the body of that Cuban guy and puppet some lines thru the speakers after the state of the union?

Then he asked for some sugar water but they didn't put enough sugar in it and he died.
Yeah I'm almost positive I saw that in a documentary once.
 
Pretty much, but Elizabeth Warren is also being urged to run.

Would vote for Warren. I'm torn on Clinton. A lot of things I don't agree with. But I mean, I'm definitely not voting Republican.

I highly doubt Warren will run if Clinton does. If she runs, she's 100% going to be given the spot. The party knows this is her last time to run. And she they pretty much owe it to her. Also, if she ran and had it taken from her, that would splinter the votes, and make her voters extremely upset. That happened with Obama, but they did damage control and eventually got all her supporters/interest groups to eventually fall in line behind Obama.

But I doubt they would do that again this time. Especially if the person that beats Clinton is a man.
 
I cannot adequately put into words my excitement and anticipation for the 2016 Republican Primary. Just imagining the possible cast of candidates makes me giddy:

- Paul Ryan
- Rand Paul
- Ted Cruz
- Mike Hukabee
- Rick Santorum
- Rick Perry
- Ben Carson
- Bobby Jindal
- Chris Christie
- Jeb Bush
- Mitt Romney

The debates will honestly be the pinnacle of entertainment television. It will literally never get any better. Goddamnit.

If only the Cain Train would make another run...
 
If we'll get more memes and jokes at his expense, then it'll be worth it.

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I already voted for Christie... I live in NJ.

So, do you actually like Christie?

I was more so talking about the larger party as a whole. There seems to be a lot of right wingers that don't like him. And he does have those scandals. He's kind of an unknown for the election IMO. Because while he has a lot of issues, he seems to be liked too.
 
As much as I am more ideologically in line with Warren, I don't think she can win.
She wasn't able to beat Brown for a Senate seat in Massachusetts in her first try.

I hope Rand Paul and Mike Huckabee hold the other guy's feet to the fire.

Chris Christie rendered himself unelectable since being confirmed to be a bandwagon Cowboys fan. How the hell does he ever expect to get support from the North-East ever again after that group hug?
 
So, do you actually like Christie?

I was more so talking about the larger party as a whole. There seems to be a lot of right wingers that don't like him. And he does have those scandals. He's kind of an unknown for the election IMO. Because while he has a lot of issues, he seems to be liked too.

I do like Christie. I've met him before too. Shook his greasy bacon hands.

Yeah, he probably doesn't have a chance because of the scandals... true or not. But he was very favorable as our governor especially after the disaster of Corzine. Approval ratings went down after bridge gate though.
 
As much as I am more ideologically in line with Warren, I don't think she can win.
She wasn't able to beat Brown for a Senate seat in Massachusetts in her first try.

I hope Rand Paul and Mike Huckabee hold the other guy's feet to the fire.

Chris Christie rendered himself unelectable since being confirmed to be a bandwagon Cowboys fan. How the hell does he ever expect to get support from the North-East ever again after that group hug?

I think, there is going to be a big push for a female president. Even if you put aside what a big deal that actually would be, people generally like to be apart of history. There is an allure to the fact that, you are making history and are living it right now.

If any female candidate actually gets to the presidential run, I think they have a very high chance of winning. I know that cuts the other way, as there will be a lot of sexist freaks coming out and trying to vote against them purely on gender. Just as many want to make history, there is a lot that want to stop history. But I think there is a lot more that would vote FOR them just because of their gender.

The truth is, not everyone that votes actually cares about the person they are voting for (what their policies are). And I do think you would get a lot of people coming out to vote just because of their gender. Gender is irrelevant to me, and I would support whoever has the best policies. Whoever in the party is the best candidate. But I really really think, there is going to be that extra push to make history.

Especially with all the tensions lately with sexism boiling up to the surface. I think the next election will be a powder keg for that stuff. Which IMO is actually a good thing. Because, while I would rather people vote for the best person based on policy, I do think it's time to deal with these issues.

EDIT: I didn't mean for this post to come off as insensitive. I think any female is capable of being our President, and I don't think gender plays a role at all. It does however, play a role in how much sexism women in politics and leadership positions have to face. The kind of push back they get. The fact that it's been a slow progression of them getting seats in congress and other positions of power. If Clinton ran, I wouldn't want to support her because there are some key policies, I do not agree with her.

I know that for some people, this would mean a lot. And a lot of people, actually think Clinton is the best person for the job. They've been supporting her bid for the White House for a long time. So I'm not suggesting the majority of the people voting for her, are only voting for her to make history. I was just saying, I think it's an aspect we have to consider (I think it's an aspect that will greatly help her win. I actually think if she runs, she will automatically win).
 
As much as I am more ideologically in line with Warren, I don't think she can win.
She wasn't able to beat Brown for a Senate seat in Massachusetts in her first try.

Uh, she did. Coakley lost in the special election to Brown.

That said, I'd rather prefer Warren actually serve out her senate term first
 
I cannot adequately put into words my excitement and anticipation for the 2016 Republican Primary. Just imagining the possible cast of candidates makes me giddy:

- Paul Ryan
- Rand Paul
- Ted Cruz
- Mike Hukabee
- Rick Santorum
- Rick Perry
- Ben Carson
- Bobby Jindal
- Chris Christie
- Jeb Bush
- Mitt Romney

The debates will honestly be the pinnacle of entertainment television. It will literally never get any better. Goddamnit.

The Republican primary is like the World Cup of politics. Every four years we get together to celebrate the beautiful game of politics. We'll scream with joy. We'll scream in anger. We'll be sad to see our long shot favorites get knocked out. In the end the winner will be one we knew all along would win and the majority will be disappointed. Once it over though we realize how empty our life is now and start counting down until the next four years.
 
I still can't believe Jeb Bush is a front runner. That dude has so many skeletons in his closet from the early 80's that he is just going to get picked apart by the media.
 
Would vote for Warren. I'm torn on Clinton. A lot of things I don't agree with. But I mean, I'm definitely not voting Republican.

I highly doubt Warren will run if Clinton does. If she runs, she's 100% going to be given the spot. The party knows this is her last time to run. And she they pretty much owe it to her. Also, if she ran and had it taken from her, that would splinter the votes, and make her voters extremely upset. That happened with Obama, but they did damage control and eventually got all her supporters/interest groups to eventually fall in line behind Obama.

But I doubt they would do that again this time. Especially if the person that beats Clinton is a man.

I would much prefer Warren over Clinton. I reallly like Warren. And why should Clinton get candidate just cause she's "owed"? I hate politics, she should get candidate cause she's the best for the job, not because she's owed.
 
I still can't believe Jeb Bush is a front runner. That dude has so many skeletons in his closet from the early 80's that he is just going to get picked apart by the media.

More than GW? Shit the way the Republican party works, they'll find a way to work "Coke fiend" into being a positive.

"Oh, this just shows how deep his level of commitment to something can be!"
 
I still can't believe Jeb Bush is a front runner. That dude has so many skeletons in his closet from the early 80's that he is just going to get picked apart by the media.

It just goes to show how utterly garbage the entire Republican field is right now. The base has dragged everyone so far to the right that anyone with a hope of winning the general is waved away before they even get close to declaring. It'll be clown car circus part 2 and it's going to be amazing. Like the World Cup of stupidity.
 
Of course he's running. His advisers told him he really won the 2012 presidential contest and this is his reelection campaign.

If you saw their exit interviews, the Romney campaign was 100% delusional. They 100% believed they were going to win. They were legit shocked he lost. And, their reasoning for why they lost, so was out of touch with reality, it's not even funny.
 
If you saw their exit interviews, the Romney campaign was 100% delusional. They 100% believed they were going to win. They were legit shocked he lost. And, their reasoning for why they lost, so was out of touch with reality, it's not even funny.
They bought into that "unskewed polls" nonsense 100% and were skewing their internal polls to show Romney ahead even in blue states like Minnesota, Michigan and Pennsylvania. Contrast that to Obama's pollsters who started subtracting two points from Obama because they had him leading by so much and didn't want to get cocky.
 
They bought into that "unskewed polls" nonsense 100% and were skewing their internal polls to show Romney ahead even in blue states like Minnesota, Michigan and Pennsylvania. Contrast that to Obama's pollsters who started subtracting two points from Obama because they had him leading by so much and didn't want to get cocky.

Really quite amazing right? Lol

I kept looking at the stuff they were saying, and was like...how out of touch are they? Do they really not understand how they lost? Oh boy.
 
Mention tax returns and 47% and watch him fold like a cheap tent.

In the primaries it won't matter jack shit. Similarly, I assure you no one outside of Politicos are following Bridgegate at all. Even if it does come up, it will be similar to Obama's Rezko incident, he isn't being directly investigated for wrongdoing so he'll get a pass. People hoping that will destroy Christie's national aspirations are delusional.
 
No man, he's one of the good ones who has nothing in common with his elected representatives

Maybe he is, but in that case his ideology would be better served with a blue dog or even a moderate dem than the gop.
 
More than GW? Shit the way the Republican party works, they'll find a way to work "Coke fiend" into being a positive.

"Oh, this just shows how deep his level of commitment to something can be!"

Well they have people like my parents whose biggest objection to Jeb Bush is not that they dislike his politics, or even they disliked how Bush ran things. But, the name name has such a stigma attached (and you can tell they don't think it's deserved but was just a successful campaign from the democrats to sling mud at the Republicans) that he just won't win.

They're not dumb either. But they listen to far too much Fox News and Rush Limbaugh. And basically buy into news that tells them what they want to hear (less taxes! Less government! We understand the small business owner! That's really all my parents want to hear).
 
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