Ronda Rousey: I can beat Mayweather in a no-rules fight.

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The only reason I'd even assume he'd have a chance is because he outweighs her.

Its like Bernard Hopkins said - he'd get his ass kicked immediately in an MMA fight because he has no real experience fighting like that.

trixx said:
Don't understand this beef with Mayweather, but I think he's doing the right thing by not responding. If anything he could admit defeat and tell her to move on.
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Its really easy to understand when you think about it: Mayweather beats up defenseless women because he's a disgusting piece of shit and Rousey is the top female fighter in the world. Watching Ronda Rousey beat the everliving shit out of Floyd Mayweather would be the most righteous form of justice in the universe. Like, better than watching your home team win the Super Bowl-good.
 
RELIGHT said:
I don't think that was implied at all. I appreciate banter but isn't nearly as entertaining as it would be if Floyd would engage her. Granted he's playing it right by taking the high ground and giving her props but it'd be hella cool if all this was leading up to something even if it was a silly match at Wrestlemania
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Floyd's no fun, so there's no way he'd ever consider anything like that.

Would be entertaining, though.
 
Obliterator said:
According to Ronda weight class has nothing to do with it. She claims Cyborg is holding out for a big payday

Also Cyborgs Nutrition and weight cut coach just said Monday Cyborg can make 135

http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/8/1...-is-waiting-to-be-offered-enough-money-to-get
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Of course she could make the weight, but she wouldn't be at her best no matter what a nutritionist says. It's a huge cut for her.
Majanew said:
There would be no belt on the line and while people want to see Ronda vs Cyborg, it should be to take Ronda's belt. Cyborg has no one to fight in UFC at 145. Ronda is at the top. Cyborg can stop fucking off and cut 9 lbs to go take her belt.
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Cyborg doesn't care about the belt. Most fans don't care about the belt. Only Ronda and the UFC care more about the belt than the fight happening.
 
ChawlieTheFair said:
This ain't UFC, it's no rules. Hell this shit could take place on a street, floyd could literally run around her for hours. Think about what happens when she tries to go for a grapple, how fast this dude punches.
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And think about how fast she could take him to the ground having literally zero grappling experience. How often do you see no rules street fights that don't go to the ground? Very rarely.
 
ChawlieTheFair said:
This ain't UFC, it's no rules. Hell this shit could take place on a street, floyd could literally run around her for hours. Think about what happens when she tries to go for a grapple, how fast this dude punches.
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He has to get close to connect. 72" reach vs 68". He better hope he has knockout power against her, because if she grabs him, he's going for a ride. The submission would be locked in so fast he wouldn't know what happened.
 
Angry Grimace said:
The only reason I'd even assume he'd have a chance is because he outweighs her.

Its like Bernard Hopkins said - he'd get his ass kicked immediately in an MMA fight because he has no real experience fighting like that.
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Why are we talking about an MMA fight? This is a no-rules fight, taking place in the middle of a field or something.

She'd need to get him to the floor with both arms secure. If she gets him down in a position where he can still throw one at her face, she'd be in trouble. If she misses an attempt to get him down, she's in trouble. If she doesn't get him down, she's dead.

Floyd may not have the KO power of someone like Golovkin, but he could still shatter her with a clean hit.
 
Nafai1123 said:
And think about how fast she could take him to the ground having literally zero grappling experience. How often do you see no rules street fights that don't go to the ground? Very rarely.
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And how often do you get world champ boxers who literally train night and day in street fights?

You're talking about usually drunk dickheads vs. people who fight for a living.

The dude is lighting.

Majanew said:
He has to get close to connect. 72" reach vs 68". He better hope he has knockout power against her, because if she grabs him, he's going for a ride. The submission would be locked in so fast he wouldn't know what happened.
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Again, I doubt she would win, wouldn't surprise me if she could though, but I wouldn't bet on her.
 
BadAss2961 said:
Of course she could make the weight, but she wouldn't be at her best no matter what a nutritionist says. It's a huge cut for her.

Cyborg doesn't care about the belt. Most fans don't care about the belt. Only Ronda and the UFC care more about the belt than the fight happening.
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If that was the only way, then yeah, I'll take it. But there is no reason Cyborg hasn't dropped to 135. She even said early last year she would drop to 135 to retire Ronda like she did Gina.
 
Can she beat vitali too? I love how she's channelled people's hate of Floyd into making her famous. Very clever. She talks more about Floyd who is a male and not in her sport than her own opponents who I imagine she knows nobody gives a fuck about.
 
Tenebrous said:
Why are we talking about an MMA fight? This is a no-rules fight, taking place in the middle of a field or something.

She'd need to get him to the floor with both arms secure. If she gets him down in a position where he can still throw one at her face, she'd be in trouble. If she misses an attempt to get him down, she's in trouble. If she doesn't get him down, she's dead.

Floyd may not have the KO power of someone like Golovkin, but he could still shatter her with a clean hit.
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Because MMA is like 10 times closer to a "no rules" fight than boxing is.

Its not so easy to get a clean hit because people get knocked out on clean hits in MMA too.
 
Tenebrous said:
She'd need to get him to the floor with both arms secure. If she gets him down in a position where he can still throw one at her face, she'd be in trouble. If she misses an attempt to get him down, she's in trouble. If she doesn't get him down, she's dead.

Floyd may not have the KO power of someone like Golovkin, but he could still shatter her with a clean hit.
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Im sorry but this is crazy talk. You generate no power with punches from your back. You just don't. You, yourself could be in Floyd guard and eat his shots from the bottom. There is no leverage to generate power.

Also if Rousey wanted to control both arms she could simply put him in a crucifix. He wouldn't even know what she is doing
 
lmao this is like those "Alabama could beat the Jaguars!" arguments. Call me sexist if you want, but Rousey wouldn't beat a random male gym buff off the street, much less one of the best athletes in the world.

Unless she's roided up, the strength difference would be too much to overcome, weighing the same is irrelevant. How is she gonna submit him, assuming she even gets past the endless hooks and jabs coming at her mouth. He's not Miesha Tate. He'd make her look like a fool as she keeps going for his legs and he keeps moving back while potshotting her and bloodying her up, assuming she doesn't get knocked the fuck out early.

You're great, Ronda, and we all know you're enjoying the fame and trying to get more attention, but settle down.

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Of course, she trains in techniques that Mayweather would never use in boxing.

MVP said:
lmao this is like those "Alabama could beat the Jaguars!" arguments. Call me sexist if you want, but Rousey wouldn't beat a random male gym buff off the street, much less one of the best athletes in the world.

Unless she's roided up, the strength difference would be too much to overcome, weighing the same is irrelevant. How is she gonna submit him, assuming she even gets past the endless hooks coming at her head. He's not Miesha Tate. He'd make her look like a fool as she keeps going for his legs and he keeps moving back while potshotting her and bloodying her up, assuming she doesn't get knocked the fuck out early.

You're great, Ronda, and we all know you're enjoying the fame and trying to get more attention, but settle down.

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You're sexist, she is fucking huge and trained in destroying people. Not to mention most people who get ripped at the gym do it for looks and not really for strength.
 
Angry Grimace said:
Because MMA is like 10 times closer to a "no rules" fight than boxing is.

Its not so easy to get a clean hit because people get knocked out on clean hits in MMA too.
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Cutting off a ring/octagon is a lot easier than somewhere larger. She'd have more of a chance in a smaller space, but I'd still favour Mayweather to win the majority of the time.

Yeah I've seen some gorgeous MMA KO compilations on the web.

Obliterator said:
Im sorry but this is crazy talk. You generate no power with punches from your back. You just don't. You, yourself could be in Floyd guard and eat his shots from the bottom. There is no leverage to generate power.

Also if Rousey wanted to control both arms she could simply put him in a crucifix. He wouldn't even know what she is doing
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It's not as simple as just getting him into the position she wants, and that's why I'd back Mayweather to win more often than not. She's never been hit with a punch of Mayweathers power - And Mayweather isn't even that big of a puncher nowadays.
 
Floyd would have to hope he could quickly KO her with a barrage. If he gave Ronda space to shoot, or got caught in a clinch it's game over.
 
Acorn said:
He gets in counter punches it's lights out. She gets him on the ground it's lights out for him.
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I said it myself, but realistically, this is all it comes down to. There's no chance in hell she wins any fight where Mayweather stays on his feet.
 
Tenebrous said:
I said it myself, but realistically, this is all it comes down to. There's no chance in hell she wins any fight where Mayweather stays on his feet.
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No doubt. She even admits that saying she would lose a boxing match.

The thing I have trouble understanding is how Floyd isn't on his back in quite literally less than 10 seconds
 
TheLostBigBoss said:
You're sexist, she is fucking ripped and trained in destroying people. Not to mention most people who get ripped at the gym do it for looks and not really for strength.
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Yeah that's great, but beating up on this:

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doesn't mean you'll destroy a world-class male fighter.

"but but but...she'll go for the legs and he'll just stand there and she'll body-slam him!" lol

Easy to make headlines nowadays, just make stupid claims about athletes in other sports that'll never be disproven. She should've stopped at her ESPYs jab at Mayweather, that was perfect, this is just desperate.
 
Ronda's way too weak, Mayweather would destroy her even in a "no-rules" fight (which neither fighter has experience in really). Even if Ronda gets a hold, Mayweather would just gouge the hell out of her eyes
 
I'm a big Ronda fan and i wasn't at first but her skill has won me over. That being said she would get destroyed. The reality is men and women are very different especially when it comes to physicality and violence. That anyone would even consider this entertaining is fucking sick.
 
justjohn said:
Can she beat vitali too? I love how she's channelled people's hate of Floyd into making her famous. Very clever. She talks more about Floyd who is a male and not in her sport than her own opponents who I imagine she knows nobody gives a fuck about.
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Pretty much.

This is what the whole fight would look like, and that's only because he'd feel too sorry for her to end it quickly.

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Abounder said:
Ronda's way too weak, Mayweather would destroy her even in a "no-rules" fight (which neither fighter has experience in really). Even if Ronda gets a hold, Mayweather would just gouge the hell out of her eyes
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Trying to do this on an experienced grappler is a bad idea. It's not like she couldn't do the same in a more dominant clinch or ground position, which she would presumably have.
 
Discussions on topics like these always seem to just ignore a number of aspects that would be very important in reality - not that this is really a surprise since this would never occur in reality, but still, let's take a look at a few of those.

First of all, there is this whole 'no rules' thing. This statement doesn't really work since most are not really thinking of a no rules scenario. As others have pointed out, no rules implies deadly weapons, which I doubt anyone would actually want. 'No rules' allows for the fight to be to the death, it allows for it to take place anywhere at anytime. Rousey could walk up to Mayweather on the street and smack him round the head with a pipe, then declare herself the winner of a no rules fight.

So right away everyone has some implicit rules when discussing this. I think most would assume that rules would include a scheduled fight in a ring, non-lethal, hand to hand only, drug free and that both fighters are actually aware of the fight. This instantly changes what might happen. For one thing, the scheduling would dramatically change potential outcomes. Every extra day given to the fighters would be a huge advantage to Mayweather. It's been pointed out that he and Rousey are a similar weight, yet one reason for that is because of his boxing class; he could likely add a great deal of muscle without affecting his fighting too much, whereas Rousey would have much more difficulty. Suddenly you have a big difference in size.

A similar issue is training. Again, Mayweather would have a big advantage over Rousey in this area. Why? Well, as pointed out, Rousey's MMA experience would be a big boon away from boxing, allowing all kinds of extra offense like grappling and kicking. Yet there is nothing to stop Mayweather from doing a lot of work in these areas and taking away a lot of the advantage of Rousey (even if he is unlikely to get to her level). However, Rousey can't really do anything extra, anything out of the ordinary to improve her skills.

You can see, I hope, how some of these factors can have major effects on outcomes.
 
MVP said:
Pretty much.

This is what the whole fight would look like, and that's only because he'd feel too sorry for her to end it quickly.

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Explain to me the mechanics of how Mayweather stuff a blast double leg

Heres a hint "he would punch her" won't work. How will he position his hips to stuff it

I mean as someone that understands grappling that GIF is hilarious. He is standing straight up with his hips wide open. Bro could be taken down in seconds
 
GrizzleBoy said:
Ronda fights in cages where the gloves they use barelynprovide any barrier to pain and is accustomed to getting hit with knees and elbows.

Floyd fights in a ring where his opponents are wearing 10oz of padding over the only things theyre allowed to touch him with..

I think she can take a hit just as well as anyone.
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You do know that gloves in either sport are meant to protect the user's hands rather than the person in the recieving end of the punch, right?

But still, she speaks the truth, Boxing has a certain "elegance" for a lack of better word because it follows strict rules, in a ruleless match, a MMA fighter has the advantage because a pro boxer is tailored to fight following the strict rules of boxing.
 
sohois said:
Discussions on topics like these always seem to just ignore a number of aspects that would be very important in reality - not that this is really a surprise since this would never occur in reality, but still, let's take a look at a few of those.

First of all, there is this whole 'no rules' thing. This statement doesn't really work since most are not really thinking of a no rules scenario. As others have pointed out, no rules implies deadly weapons, which I doubt anyone would actually want. 'No rules' allows for the fight to be to the death, it allows for it to take place anywhere at anytime. Rousey could walk up to Mayweather on the street and smack him round the head with a pipe, then declare herself the winner of a no rules fight.

So right away everyone has some implicit rules when discussing this. I think most would assume that rules would include a scheduled fight in a ring, non-lethal, hand to hand only, drug free and that both fighters are actually aware of the fight. This instantly changes what might happen. For one thing, the scheduling would dramatically change potential outcomes. Every extra day given to the fighters would be a huge advantage to Mayweather. It's been pointed out that he and Rousey are a similar weight, yet one reason for that is because of his boxing class; he could likely add a great deal of muscle without affecting his fighting too much, whereas Rousey would have much more difficulty. Suddenly you have a big difference in size.

A similar issue is training. Again, Mayweather would have a big advantage over Rousey in this area. Why? Well, as pointed out, Rousey's MMA experience would be a big boon away from boxing, allowing all kinds of extra offense like grappling and kicking. Yet there is nothing to stop Mayweather from doing a lot of work in these areas and taking away a lot of the advantage of Rousey (even if he is unlikely to get to her level). However, Rousey can't really do anything extra, anything out of the ordinary to improve her skills.

You can see, I hope, how some of these factors can have major effects on outcomes.
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Um, you could give Mayweather a year to prepare and he still wouldn't be ready to stop her grappling and hip tosses. And it sure as hell is nowhere near enough time to learn how to stop submissions.
 
MVP said:
Yeah that's great, but beating up on this:

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doesn't mean you'll destroy a world-class male fighter.

"but but but...she'll go for the legs and he'll just stand there and she'll body-slam him!" lol

Easy to make headlines nowadays, just make stupid claims about athletes in other sports that'll never be disproven. She should've stopped at her ESPYs jab at Mayweather, that was perfect, this is just desperate.
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Obviously you can argue on who would win, but to say that any dude who goes to the gym can win in a fight against her is pretty dismissive of her simply based on the fact she has a vagina.
 
Really hope they make they Cyborg fight happen and Ronda gets knocked out.

After seeing her as a coach on TUF and all her interview comments I can't stand her.
 
Majanew said:
Um, you could give Mayweather a year to prepare and he still wouldn't be ready to stop her grappling and hip tosses. And it sure as hell is nowhere near enough time to learn how to stop submissions.
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I'm not saying that, or that he would become even a mid level MMA fighter; the point is that, relative between the two of them, Mayweather can benefit hugely from technical training which Rousey just can't.
 
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