Obliterator
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Yeah its incredibly common in MMA. The weight cuts are gigantic. GSP was the 170lb champ and weighed 192 - 193 on fight night. He would be 22 to 23 lbs heavier in the cage than at weigh ins
GSP head coach Firas Zahabi
Ronda Rousey: I can beat Mayweather in a no-rules fight.
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Yeah its incredibly common in MMA. The weight cuts are gigantic. GSP was the 170lb champ and weighed 192 - 193 on fight night. He would be 22 to 23 lbs heavier in the cage than at weigh ins
GSP head coach Firas Zahabi
BadAss2961
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In a fair fight against your average male in the UFC, he wouldn't be able to stop it unless he dodged it. But against Ronda, I don't see it happening. I don't think i've ever even seen her shoot for a takedown like that, it's not her style.
PhoenixDark
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If she could get him on the mat she'd win. If not she'd get knocked out. I think that's a pretty fair assessment. His speed and strength would probably allow him to avoid getting taken to the mat - I'd imagine he could easily uppercut her as she slowly attempted to grapple...but all it would take is her getting him off balance once to win. And of course he could probably knock her out with one punch, too.
That Dennis Hallman encounter, lol. And Edmond is such a douchebag.
I think an overlooked aspect of this hypothetical match up is that Floyd wouldn't be behold to rules in boxing. He could fight in ways that would be considered no-nos in boxing.
Rousey wins if she gets him on his back, but she'll have to catch him first. Floyd has a 72' reach that has served him very well against much tougher fighters. He has superior speed and power that, while not top class in boxing, would be more than enough to punish Rousey tremendously. Likely, one punch is enough to knock her out if he catches her on her feet, and if she goes low and doesn't get him down in one go, he'll make her pay for it.
MMA fighters have more tools, but boxers have better honed ones, and I'll give this match up to Floyd every time simply because I don't think Rousey is fast or tough enough to work him into a position that favours her style of fighting.
Rousey wins if she gets him on his back, but she'll have to catch him first. Floyd has a 72' reach that has served him very well against much tougher fighters. He has superior speed and power that, while not top class in boxing, would be more than enough to punish Rousey tremendously. Likely, one punch is enough to knock her out if he catches her on her feet, and if she goes low and doesn't get him down in one go, he'll make her pay for it.
MMA fighters have more tools, but boxers have better honed ones, and I'll give this match up to Floyd every time simply because I don't think Rousey is fast or tough enough to work him into a position that favours her style of fighting.
TheOohChild
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I don't support her delusions, but I do support trolling Floyd. And I support people publishing photos of her. So I think I am OK with this.
BronsonLee
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You'd be able to hear my laughter from the Moon if that's how the fight started/ended
Even if one punch doesn't knock her out, it would destroy her mentally, she would get hit harder than she has every been hit in her life. She is a tough chick but a Mayweather punch in those little gloves would be soul crushing. Anyone that watches MMA has seen what happens when a fighter gets hit harder than they expect, her entire fight plan would be out the window. Then it's instinct and survival and it is not going to be pretty for her.
_illmatic_
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Silva doesn't always just stop a grapple before he knocks out opponents. He's faster, quicker, more accurate, and has more power. Grappling or not every fight he has he isn't grappled 100%. So why is it just too far fetched to believe another world class hall of fame athlete with more power and more accurate wouldn't just do the same thing?
WascallyWabbit
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I think people are taking her thing about being able to beat anyone on the planet the wrong way
Yes, it's a declarative sentence, but it's more her describing her mindset. Any great fighter is going to believe that. In fact, a lot of them need to tell themselves that to keep up their confidence
If you got her alone and on some kind of truth serum, i'm sure she doesn't think that she could take out anyone in the world, but that bravado is important for her as a competitor
Yes, it's a declarative sentence, but it's more her describing her mindset. Any great fighter is going to believe that. In fact, a lot of them need to tell themselves that to keep up their confidence
If you got her alone and on some kind of truth serum, i'm sure she doesn't think that she could take out anyone in the world, but that bravado is important for her as a competitor
Not before he has his entourage curb stomp her. No rules means no rules.
If they were both men, sure. But strength nullifies a lot of technique. I think a lot of posters don't realize how great Mayweather is. He's a transcendental athlete, the greatest active competitive martial artist, period. If he trained to stop takedowns for three months, he'd probably beat Rousey 95 times out of 100. I give her a 5% chance because I think it's harder to prepare to stop a judoka, you're dealing with a lot of different takedowns in addition to single/double legs that most MMA wrestlers specialize in. On the other hand, the clinch is a familiar position for a boxer, though it's set up differently, so maybe that wouldn't favor her so much (she throws from the clinch most often if I remember right).
I also think RR would be surprised at how strong and fast Mayweather is. He's not known for his great power at 147 pounds but that's against the cream of the crop in boxing. Rhonda, who is a mediocre boxer and a woman besides, would get wrecked.
Obliterator
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Silva doesn't always just stop a grapple before he knocks out opponents. He's faster, quicker, more accurate, and has more power. Grappling or not every fight he has he isn't grappled 100%. So why is it just too far fetched to believe another world class hall of fame athlete with more power and more accurate wouldn't just do the same thing?
Silva is a far far far more dangerous striker than Floyd will ever be
Silva doesn't always just stop a grapple before he knocks out opponents. He's faster, quicker, more accurate, and has more power. Grappling or not every fight he has he isn't grappled 100%. So why is it just too far fetched to believe another world class hall of fame athlete with more power and more accurate wouldn't just do the same thing?
Bad choice. Anderson was taken down with ease by Chael Sonnen and Chris Weidman. If Anderson didn't get saved by the round limits, he would have just laid on his back getting smashed.
That's probably true. She'd just use a gun or something.
Maybe. But both her and her coach, Edmond, constantly put her in these fantasy matchups and they will claim that she comes out the victor. This particular Floyd fight has been thrown out about 10 times now. It's just lame because it is never going to happen for obvious reasons.
She's clever at marketing herself, but I'm just tired of hearing about it.
_illmatic_
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My mistake. How foolish of me to assume Mayweather would be anywhere near the level of striking as Silva. lol
You are insane.
BronsonLee
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Mayweather's entourage grabs at her legs, hold her in place for Mayweather to hit his patented Corkscrew Moonsault Punch
Yup. There is little that feels worse than catching a punch far heavier than you expected it to be. It can be completely demoralising, even if you've been hit harder before, if your expectations are suddenly warped, that fucks with your mind. Especially so when the punches are faster than you can cope with it.
lmao, no, man, Just no.
Floyd hasn't knocked someone out in over a decade. He's certainly not putting her or anyone with training in a coma throwing a punch.
He knocked out Ortiz in 2011, although there is the sucker punch debate. He clearly knocked out Hatton in 2007, back when Hatton was still considered great by some.
Let's not talk complete bullshit.
Obliterator
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Not even close. Silva is a 210 lb man with an 78 inch reach and has KO power and vastly more tools than Mayweather. It is incredible how boxing being around so long has convinced people they are the superior fighters. Incredible. If May fought Silva in his prime it would look like this
In a perplexing situation of mixed feelings, i wish i had knowledge of how grappling and mma worked, because then this gif would stop looking hilariously ridiculous to me, and i would not feel dumb for not knowing what's going on.
_illmatic_
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He can make a 160lb young fighter respect his power but KOing a 135lb female fighter with prob no chin that never moves her head and can't slip punches is impossible? I guess......
BennyBlanco
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I was ready to disagree with you but it's kinda true. Floyd is obviously a more talented striker and way faster but less dangerous.
Like Freddie Roach said about Silva: He just understands timing and distance very well and is a great counterstriker so he catches people coming in and gets knockouts. Makes it look easy.
I still think Mayweather would beat Rousey in any kind of fight. I don't think she could eat punches from him the way she does now and don't think she could take him down before he unloaded on her. His hands are absurdly fast and accurate even now. Just my 2 cents and it will never ever happen anyway so it's all moot.
Not even close. Silva is a 210 lb man with an 78 inch reach and has KO power and vastly more tools than Mayweather. It is incredible how boxing being around so long has convinced people they are the superior fighters. Incredible. If May fought Silva in his prime it would look like this
And Mayweather is a stone heavier than RR with a reach advantage.
Silva would kill Mayweather, that's a given.
Floyd hasn't knocked out a boxer in a long time. Rousey is not a boxer, and frankly isn't as tough.
_illmatic_
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Not even close. Silva is a 210 lb man with an 78 inch reach and has KO power and vastly more tools than Mayweather. It is incredible how boxing being around so long has convinced people they are the superior fighters. Incredible. If May fought Silva in his prime it would look like this
It's p4p for a reason. The same things he's done at 210lbs, Floyd has done more between weight classes. Again it was posted to show that a fighter like him isn't just preventing grapples before a KO. Out of his 34-6 record he's only won my submission 8 times.
Some guys suck at striking so badly that they'd rather be on their back and hope their opponent tries to get on top of them because they see that as more advantageous for them than standing up and getting punched. But lack of action on the ground by rule will result in the ref standing both opponents up again. So a fighter who would rather remain striking will simply stand back and wait for the ref to force the standup like Silva is doing in the gif.
Future PhaZe
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She stands zero chance. She'd never get him in a sub position because he could yank her around by her hair, scratch and bite, etc. And he'd do enormous damage with connected hits in a clench.
Her only chance is an MMA rules match, where she'd have a good shot.
Her only chance is an MMA rules match, where she'd have a good shot.
Street fights can end up in many different types of ways. I tend to see them end on hay makers being thrown and some unfortunate soul getting decked on the side of their temple. Sure, there can be some tackling, kicking, or submission in those types of fights. But more often than not, its basically a fist fight (unless one party goes into desperation mode and does something unorthodox).
As for any MMA fighter being a more dangerous striker than a world champion boxer..... Bwa hahahahaha.
Rousey is good at PR. She knows Mayweather is in a lose lose situation. Floyd fighting her and inevitable beaten her senseless just would be her seem like a victim and Mayweather as more of a monster.
As for any MMA fighter being a more dangerous striker than a world champion boxer..... Bwa hahahahaha.
Rousey is good at PR. She knows Mayweather is in a lose lose situation. Floyd fighting her and inevitable beaten her senseless just would be her seem like a victim and Mayweather as more of a monster.
Not even close. Silva is a 210 lb man with an 78 inch reach and has KO power and vastly more tools than Mayweather. It is incredible how boxing being around so long has convinced people they are the superior fighters. Incredible. If May fought Silva in his prime it would look like this
Silva has never had Mayweather's speed.
Prime Mayweather VS Prime Silva would be a much more interesting and closer matched fight though.
Damage in the clinch? He won't win a clinch grappling match against her. LOL, hip toss to an armbar. Night over.
Obliterator
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Yep because amazing hands = best striking. Thats certainly been proven.....wait
BennyBlanco
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She's tough as nails, but just not trained to get hit like boxers are. Especially guys cut from that Kronk gym cloth like Mayweather.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM0MsURLAuA
Have you seen how these guys train?
This is a big factor. She couldn't take a big punch from any noteworthy Welterweight boxer, but that doesn't mean she isn't as tough as a coffin nail.
Oh come on now...Mayweather hits her with this in 4 ounce gloves and she's going night night.
OUTTA NOWHERE!
CassidyIzABeast
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I can't believe we went from Mayweather can't beat Pacquiao to actually entertaining Mayweather can't beat a female in a completely different sport.
She is tough as nails for a competitor in her division. She isn't by boxing standards. Mayweather's punches would hurt, his speed would be an intimidating force by its own, and even his body shots, which many boxers can take without sustaining too much damage these days, would still be a huge problem for Rousey.
It's also important to note boxers are trained to hit and not get hit. MMA fighters prioritise the former and not so much the latter.
Mayweather's own contemporaries can barely touch him, I don't think Rousey stands much of a chance if she doesn't manage to position him to fight in a way that best suits her.
Silva is a trained Boxer, and fought competitively before focusing his attention on MMA. He would absolutely kill that wife beating midget.
I'm not taking sides here on the whole MMA vs Boxing debate (I have a preference, but it's opinion, not fact), but I'd be truly interested to see a punching power comparison between MMA & boxing fighters. How would the likes of Golovkin at 160, Kovalev at 175, and Haye at 210 (if he comes back) stack up against their MMA counterparts?
Mayweather would get fucking destroyed. Silva has like a 5 stone advantage on him, haha.
Lol this thread.
Ronda is one of the worst strikers ever and got caught plenty of times against another terrible striker in Bethe (and Tate, and McMann). Mayweather would legit murder her in a pure boxing match even if you added kicks.
In a grappling match, she would obviously try and take him down and go for the sub. The thing is that Ronda relies entirely on clinch takedowns so it would be a little harder for her to get inside in which she could get caught with about 5-10 punches before getting the toss. And not from untalented women fighters but one of the best P4P boxers in the world. It wouldn't be entirely surprising if she ended up faceplanted and Mayweather gets hit with another domestic abuse case.
Anderson Silva is my favorite fighter of all time but cmon he was doing all that wizardry to fighters with little to no standup skill. While I still think he is a way above average striker, he would get punished in a boxing ring with hands only. Adding kicks would obviously make the fight lean towards Silva. He's basically a poor man's Roy Jones Jr.
Ronda is one of the worst strikers ever and got caught plenty of times against another terrible striker in Bethe (and Tate, and McMann). Mayweather would legit murder her in a pure boxing match even if you added kicks.
In a grappling match, she would obviously try and take him down and go for the sub. The thing is that Ronda relies entirely on clinch takedowns so it would be a little harder for her to get inside in which she could get caught with about 5-10 punches before getting the toss. And not from untalented women fighters but one of the best P4P boxers in the world. It wouldn't be entirely surprising if she ended up faceplanted and Mayweather gets hit with another domestic abuse case.
Anderson Silva is my favorite fighter of all time but cmon he was doing all that wizardry to fighters with little to no standup skill. While I still think he is a way above average striker, he would get punished in a boxing ring with hands only. Adding kicks would obviously make the fight lean towards Silva. He's basically a poor man's Roy Jones Jr.
Obliterator
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I can see people thinking May would beat Rousey as there is potential he could.
If he fought Silva in his prime he would leave on a stretcher
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