SCULLIBUNDO
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I didn't just come around. If you look back, I came around right after my second screening.
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I didn't just come around. If you look back, I came around right after my second screening.
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GhaleonEB said:How is your second viewing not a "subsequent viewing"?
Seeing it again tomorrow with the kid. Finally.
He said subsequent viewings. Its like the difference between sequel and sequels.
As someone who was REALLY down on the soundtrack after the first viewing, and still is to some extent, I have to admit that I enjoyed the music better the second time I saw the movie (as well as the movie in general). I especially liked the random flourishes of the main theme throughout.
Second, or third or fourth. Anything after the first is a subsequent viewing.Scullibundo said:He said subsequent viewings. Its like the difference between sequel and sequels.
And you should have said, the difference between an alien and aliens.
Expectations for Avatar this weekend have crested up again:
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-ct-boxoffice25-2009dec25,0,7382606.story
Depending how it does today, it could land right near last weekend's haul. Just crazy.
Expendable.
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look what somewhat got for Christmas:
yes, the eyes do glow in the dark!
and no...I promise I didn't ask for it
Karma Kramer
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JEALOUS!
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Hasn't the Quantum of Solace thread taught us anything?
Hasn't the Quantum of Solace thread taught us anything?
yankeeforever2
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Saw it today, it was very good, ending was obvious but so was the rest of the story:lol Just loved how where the biggest assholes ever in this movie, I wanted to scream out America fuck yeah in the theater.
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Scullibundo said:
I always loved the soundtrack, but it has gotten even better over time! Some of the tracks are amazing.
And I agree, that part of the movie was pretty bad/corny because of the music that plays. A shame.......
â Narayan
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Aye. Was that part in the actual soundtrack release? I listened to it last night - and I don't remember hearing it. However, in the film it's so glaring and -- well... ugly.Scullibundo said:
I think I am going to see this movie for a second time tomorrow. Will probably just see it in Real3D again. I can't imagine the IMAX 3D experience is all that much better. I was very impressed w/ the sound in my Real3D theater. Just wish the picture wasn't so dim, there is so much light and saturation lost.
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Zeliard said:
Sorry! I've tried the show a couple of times and there is nothing there that really keeps my interest. If you have a favorite episode, I'll try it out!
House itself, the show, certainly has a bunch of issues. Hell, I stopped watching it when they killed off a certain character. Not sure exactly why, honestly (didn't care all that much about the character), but I was turned off after that. Still have yet to catch a Season 6 episode.
Hugh Laurie's performance as House, though? Impeccable. It's by far the biggest thing that kept me watching the show, since it got incredibly formulaic at a point (though they did try to change things up some).
"Three Stories" from Season 1 might still be House's best episode, from what I've seen. It's frequently considered the show's best episode in general.
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Hugh Laurie's performance as House, though? Impeccable. It's by far the biggest thing that kept me watching the show, since it got incredibly formulaic at a point (though they did try to change things up some).
"Three Stories" from Season 1 might still be House's best episode, from what I've seen. It's frequently considered the show's best episode in general.
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Saw it last night, its a pretty big little movie, I like cliches if they are decently presented but I felt many times like I was watching the next generation of average Dreamworks movies, the 3D was pretty neat and there was a ton of great scenery porn, it truly impacted me
and when my friends say to imagine an S.T.A.L.K.E.R game with those visuals. I hope the sequel fixes these issues, or at least just cut the bullshit and make it a documentary on Pandora.
when Jake referred to the humans as "Aliens" in contrast with himself at the beginning of the movie
And to think I was watching this movie at a very bad angle off to the side craning my neck... I imagine if I watched this more centered the 3D woulda stood out even more.
I probably need to see this again... I missed bits because I had to run to the bathroom... this is a usually a good thing, because if a movie really engrosses me, I usually have to piss pretty bad, which is weird how that works.
I probably need to see this again... I missed bits because I had to run to the bathroom... this is a usually a good thing, because if a movie really engrosses me, I usually have to piss pretty bad, which is weird how that works.
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Kaako said:
I don't think anybody has the balls to attempt AVATAR II except for Cameron.
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Today's field report from my theater: No surprise, but Avatar is doing spectacularly, thanks in part, I assume, to it being Christmas. Our three 3D houses have been nearly to capacity all throughout today. Plus, we're also showing one 2D print in a smaller house (a shame for such an epic movie).
It'll be neck and neck with Holmes from the looks of things here. While Avatar is filling, like 93% visually, Sherlock is closer to 99% sold out. It looks like the great movies for the end of the year are getting their due.
It'll be neck and neck with Holmes from the looks of things here. While Avatar is filling, like 93% visually, Sherlock is closer to 99% sold out. It looks like the great movies for the end of the year are getting their due.
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You forgot "starring Russell Crowe as the descendant of Jakesully and Neytiri."stuburns said:
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Look at how good this movie. Look how much better it is than CG from even just a few years ago. Then think about the fact that Avatar 2 probably won't come out for, at the very least, 3 more years (unless Fox throws massive money to Cameron to start the next one right away). Imagine just how fucking good and cool the next one is going to look.
It seemed to me, that he wanted to completely dominate them as he felt like this was the first place he had to come to that he hadn't been able to overcome (Keeping the scars from the first day he was there...kind of tells me its less about him liking the look of it and more of it being something he can't get over until he "wins" against Pandora)Medalion said:
I mean, he is pretty much just itching to start shit, like when Jake asked for more time after Quaritch got his approval for new Legs, he looked straight up pissed that he was being delayed even more.
Forkball said:
Went to see this a few hours earlier today and I feel exactly the same. I mean this post nails it.
I enjoyed the film but there was an extreme feeling of same ol same ol. Which is a goddamn shame considering this is such a technical marvel. The CG and the CG characters in particular were just amazing. I feel like it was a bit squandered on such a cliche story. When the tribal leader was her dad I about lost my goddamn mind. REALLY? I would say I saw it coming, but in reality, I refused to see if coming because it would have been so freaking par for the course that I just KNEW there was no way in hell they would go that route.
Then the arranged marriage, the angry jealous husband to be, the gaining the trust of the natives, the inevitable turn against the warmongering ignorant human beings of course..... FUCK man.
This had better get a fucking sequel that rights this shit.
Edit: I also hated how completely unrestrained the "Marine" was. I couldnt buy that this guy was a Marine, in an extremely expensive and exclusive op, and the second he gets his Avatar he is breaking shit and ignoring orders and sprinting through the place. He couldnt keep his hands off of ANYTHING. Slapping plants and shit when the Na'vi chick was escorting him to their living area.
He seemed anything but military.
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stuburns said:
Well, Cameron may consider it perfect, but WETA/ILM will continue getting better regardless! Avatar 2 will look even better than this, guaranteed.
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i just saw it, and i thought it was probably the most visually impressive movie i've seen this decade, to the point that it almost made up for its other flaws, cliches, and michelle rodriguez. visually it was like watching a miyazaki movie brought to life, but dialogue/plotwise, it was basically pocahontas in space, written by george lucas circa phantom menace.
I remember going hell yeah when all the creatures we'd met before near the beginning of the movie banded together to kick the marines' asses.
Looks like I may have to buy a whole new TV to enjoy this again at home.
There were times in this movie I kept thinking about Halo 3 though.
Looks like I may have to buy a whole new TV to enjoy this again at home.
There were times in this movie I kept thinking about Halo 3 though.
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Veronica Belmonttino said:
Forkball said:
Cliches..or plot standards? Let's dissect:
Generic, cookie cutter warrior lead
Generic would be "Logan" from Wolverine. Generic is walking-slowly-away-from-an-explosion.
AVATAR sets up the main character as a generic, 1 dimensional character that evolves into a 3 dimensional (LOL) character through, not words, but experiences. Whatever Neytiri teaches, he follows and learn to appreciate.
Sounds like character growth.
War-mongering villain
Villain has scary scar
Cliche? I agree. But this sounds like setting up an antagonist. Surely an action adventure needs one, right?
Nature good, technology bad
Theme.. Should JC just go against the grain and do it the other way around? Really stick it to the man?
Noble savages
The Na'vi are set up to represent the beauty of nature. Also as the underdog who are literally outgunned and helpless, but to overcome these challenges with what they hold over their soon-to-be-oppressors: respect for mother nature.
Surely a story needs the good guys, right?
Lead falls in love with native girl
Love interest. I for one can do without one, if its unnecessary. But in the case of AVATAR, the love interest is how our protagonist develops from "generic soldier."
Native girl is actually the daughter of the leader of the natives
Native girl is to marry another guy due to tradition
Native guy is asshole
Sounds like a conflict and another subplot to help develop characters from these conflicts..
Lead does something that only a few people in history have done and is mentioned earlier in the film
Oh..you mean foreshadowing?
Lead learns the ways of the natives
Not the point. Its what he learns, what he personally gains, how he grows from learning the way of the natives.
Small, weasley corporate guy
He's small, but definitely quite a character. You can see regret when he gives the green light, you can see an attempt at the last minute to prevent slaughter. Wait, what are you trying to say exactly? That the small corporate guy cliche is all he is?
Lead turns his back on his own people to help natives
War is only fought for money/power/greed
Lead is shunned by natives, then accepted, then shunned again, and then finally accepted
Being "one" with nature
Ill ignore these for now..because Im at work.
Now, I probably said somethings that are "duh" to you. And that is my intention. These are plot/script/writing staples. The point isnt that AVATAR has cliches, but how these cliches hurt or help the film.
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