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BruceLeeRoy said:
I was about to go on and on about how wrong you are but who am I kidding I can't disagree with anyone that has your avatar.


I can.
Sigourney Weaver? How dare you? She wa... I can't either =\
 
Stridone said:
Jake was probably the worst part of this awesome movie. He's an obnoxious moron. I cringed so hard when he refused to take a few tests when he was just transferred to his avatar, destroyed some state of the art equipment and then took off.

oh come the fuck on. tell me what else you didnt like about avatar grampa
 
Stridone said:
Jake was probably the worst part of this awesome movie. He's an obnoxious moron. I cringed so hard when he refused to take a few tests when he was just transferred to his avatar, destroyed some state of the art equipment and then took off.

As someone who has grown up w/ his dad paralyzed almost all my life I smiled at this scene and enjoyed it. The ability to walk after thinking you'll never walk again? Must be mind blowing. I and I'm pretty sure a ton of other people would have done the same thing.

And, LOL:
http://www.blackbookmag.com/article/cameron-answers-critics-re-smoking-in-avatar/14711
 
border said:
I'm saying it's an average story elevated by special effects, art design, and action setpieces.

The acting is okay, but really.......the lead can't even keep his accent straight. Everyone else besides Neytiri seems to be phoning it in.

That's the point I'm trying to get across to you. Lots of people would be upset. Unless the new lead actor did a super great job, then I guess lots of people would be disappointed.

TBH I'll be more upset if Zoe isn't in the 2nd movie. To me she's my favorite actor/actress in the movie.
 
Stridone said:
Jake was probably the worst part of this awesome movie. He's an obnoxious moron. I cringed so hard when he refused to take a few tests when he was just transferred to his avatar, destroyed some state of the art equipment and then took off.


I also felt for the fate of the equipment more so than the passion and joy of getting your FUCKING LEGS BACK. smh.
 
Speaking of Jake's legs...

I noticed later in the movie that Jakes's legs were really skinny. Was that a result of atrophy or Pandora's gravity or whatever, or does Worthington just have extremely skinny legs?
 
Blader5489 said:
Speaking of Jake's legs...

I noticed later in the movie that Jakes's legs were really skinny. Was that a result of atrophy or Pandora's gravity or whatever, or does Worthington just have extremely skinny legs?

It's atrophy because of his paralysis, dude.
 
http://oscar-watch.ew.com/2010/01/05/district-9-star-trek-avatar-oscars/

It’s often said that the Oscar race always changes once the nominees are announced. And the science-fiction heavy Producers Guild of America’s top 10 list, announced earlier today, raises an interesting question: What if Avatar, District 9, and Star Trek all repeat and score Oscar nominations for Best Picture? Could Avatar, which is widely considered to be the frontrunner at this point, actually be hurt by all the sci-fi love? It certainly seems logical that James Cameron’s opus would lose more votes to District and Trek than it would to, say, smaller indies like A Serious Man or The Messenger. In such a tight race as this year’s, something like that could make all the difference.

So should Avatar fans now be praying that District 9 and Star Trek don’t make it in to the Academy’s top 10? Or is Avatar so far ahead of Up in the Air and The Hurt Locker that one or two other action flicks won’t make a significant enough dent in its lead? I’m thinking the Na’vi can handle one other sci-fi competitor. But if both District and Trek make it in, there could be a problem.

When did Avatar become the front runner over Up In The Air? Late last week apparently they were neck and neck.

And where are these impressions coming from :lol ?

Edit: I'm getting the feeling it's Avatar vs. Up In The Air for Best Picture. Excellent movies, the both, for very different reasons.
 
Blader5489 said:
Speaking of Jake's legs...

I noticed later in the movie that Jakes's legs were really skinny. Was that a result of atrophy or Pandora's gravity or whatever, or does Worthington just have extremely skinny legs?

I just want to know if they were CG or props. They looked great if it were CG.
 
DanielPlainview said:
as of 2 weeks ago Avatar has definitely been the front runner.

Ah, well.

I'd be perfectly fine with either Avatar or UITA winning. Though Avatar's Oscar would come with a certain amount of crow :lol .
 
syllogism said:
Avatar 8m, a more typical drop but still obviously very good
Here's the source: http://twitter.com/ERCboxoffice

To put that in perspective, it's a 53% drop. Last year the drops for the top five were:

-72%
-67%
-66%
-65%
-76%

Expectations were for a $6m Monday. It's a really, really good hold. For comparison, TDK did $6.3m on its 3rd Monday, and that was in the summer, when school was out.

I said earlier that anything over $7 would indicate the ship was going down for sure. I stand by that. :p
 
border said:
Having a simple and unoriginal story is not really a problem if you can support it with excellent performances, engaging characters, good writing, etc. The problem is that the performances are average, the cast is mostly flat stock characters with a laughable cartoon villain, and the writing is plain. The story is supported mostly by special effects, which doesn't entirely cut the mustard for some people.

Agreed, on almost all points (Zoe Saldana gave the only noteworthy performances for me).

I agree that the representation of Pandora is the main attraction for this movie. But for me, a huge chunk of this should be accredited to how their spirituality is represented, and as mentioned, this was the result of blending the belief system of several existing indigenous cultures. So the main creative input Cameron gave is the aesthetics and special effects, which for me, is enough to warrant a viewing at the theater, because they are definitely outstanding. Apart from this though, considering the average storyline and some truly awkward dialogue, I don't see the film as 'groundbreaking' in any sense of the word.
 
I will be super disappointed if Jake is not in the next movie. He was not a super unique guy, but he was a likable character.

Also, the acting in this movie is pretty good, I think. Zoe Saldana gives a performance that is obviously very good: it's expressive, dynamic, and is perfect for the medium in which it existed. Worthington's accent wasn't kept straight, but considering how thick his Australian accent is, I'm actually kind of impressed that it was as good as it was. Plus, he has a lot of charisma and is generally enjoyable to watch when he's on the screen, and his chemistry with Saldana was pretty good. Sigourney Weaver was quite good in this, as well; she managed to be sarcastic and caustic while still retaining a sense of humanity in her performance. While most think the character is one-note (I don't), Stephen Lang gives a pretty good performance, I think. He's a bit cartoony at times, but that's what the role needed.

Michelle Rodriguez and Norm were both serviceable. Neither was bad, but neither really served a huge purpose, story-wise.
 
DanielPlainview said:
as of 2 weeks ago Avatar has definitely been the front runner.

I still think Up In the Air is front runner, but it could be a split vote. I don't think Cameron will get the director nod (Though this is the one he should get) since it's CGI heavy and his peers lean toward reality based sets.

Since best picture is voted on by everyone, it would stand to reason it has a good shot- especially considering the amount of ooh's and ahh's Hollywood gave it.

I still doubt they are going to reward the guy 2 times in a row and think overall he will have to settle for the technical stuff. Who know's, it appears I am going to be wrong about it beating Titanic.
 
Blader5489 said:
Speaking of Jake's legs...

I noticed later in the movie that Jakes's legs were really skinny. Was that a result of atrophy or Pandora's gravity or whatever, or does Worthington just have extremely skinny legs?

This has to be a joke post.
 
GhaleonEB said:
Here's the source: http://twitter.com/ERCboxoffice

To put that in perspective, it's a 53% drop. Last year the drops for the top five were:

-72%
-67%
-66%
-65%
-76%

Expectations were for a $6m Monday. It's a really, really good hold. For comparison, TDK did $6.3m on its 3rd Monday, and that was in the summer, when school was out.

I said earlier that anything over $7 would indicate the ship was going down for sure. I stand by that. :p
No that wasn't their "expectation", that was just a figure they used to show how well it could still do even if it did do just that
 
It's kind of unfathomable that this will the be #1 grossing movie of all time. There is just so much fucking crow to be eaten.

Someone needs to make a countdown on how much more it needs to make before it gets $1.8B
 
DanielPlainview said:
It's kind of unfathomable that this will the be #1 grossing movie of all time. There is just so much fucking crow to be eaten.

Someone needs to make a countdown on how much more it needs to make before it gets $1.8B

It'll happen. And my legs will be stripped of their beautiful manly hair. I promise you this
 
DanielPlainview said:
as of 2 weeks ago Avatar has definitely been the front runner.
What are you basing it on?
The betting lines don't reflect that, and while it seems like a way more likely winner than it was a month ago, it's still at best a top contender.
Most respectable predictions I've seen still list The Hurt Locker and Up in the Air as a more likely candidates for best movie.

It's certainly not a definite front runner at this point (though with the momentum it's getting at the box office it can change).
 
syllogism said:
No that wasn't their "expectation", that was just a figure they used to show how well it could still do even if it did do just that
I was referencing that as an example. $8m is well above expectations.

1 (1) Avatar 20th Century Fox Action $8,094,554 -53.43% 3,461 $2,339 $360,209,452 18
2 (3) Sherlock Holmes Warner Bros. Adventure $2,911,461 -60.38% 3,626 $803 $141,626,898 11
3 (2) Alvin and the Chipmunks: The Squeakquel 20th Century Fox Comedy $2,217,825 -71.63% 3,747 $592 $158,134,760 13
4 (4) It's Complicated Universal Romantic Comedy $1,462,225 -63.30% 2,897 $505 $60,641,065 11
- (5) The Blind Side Warner Bros. Drama $824,120 -65.08% 2,926 $282 $209,300,187 46

It's like those diet ads: results not typical. :lol

It really clarifies the trajectory the movie was on that it could pull in $8m on a school night.
 
syllogism said:
No that wasn't their "expectation", that was just a figure they used to show how well it could still do even if it did do just that
True, but it's still definitely not a typical drop, and it is a very good sign for its chances to beat Titanic. If I were just reading the posts in this thread I'd probably be disappointed, though, because a lot of them were completely outrageous and probably based on Ghaleon's original "35% drops" logic (his original estimate for Monday was 14m, though he's more familiar with the box office now) and not taking into account the fact that this is its first nonholiday weekday. BTW, this result pretty much guarantees that TDK's record for consecutive days over five million is going down.

Edit: Also TDK's domestic total is more than likely going down as well, but it seems like GAF collectively decided that awhile back, so I don't know if it's worth mentioning.
 
$8M? Very nice!

Snowman Prophet of Doom said:
I will be super disappointed if Jake is not in the next movie.

Dont know why you'd even think otherwise. We already know that the sequels will follow Jake and Neytiri.
 
Sharp said:
True, but it's still definitely not a typical drop, and it is a very good sign for its chances to beat Titanic. If I were just reading the posts in this thread I'd probably be disappointed, though, because a lot of them were completely outrageous and probably based on Ghaleon's original "35% drops" logic (his original estimate for Monday was 14m, though he's more familiar with the box office now) and not taking into account the fact that this is its first nonholiday weekday. BTW, this result pretty much guarantees that TDK's record for consecutive days over five million is going down.

Edit: Also TDK's domestic total is more than likely going down as well, but it seems like GAF collectively decided that awhile back, so I don't know if it's worth mentioning.
FWIW, I don't recall forecasting Monday that specifically, but if I did it was really, realy stupid. :D

My predictions from a week ago or so for weekly drops was just that - weekly drops, based on the first (and then second) seven day performance (Fri-Thurs).

To test how that holds up, take Monday's performance and project. Yesterday was 50% off the previous Monday. So cut last week's Monday-Thursday figure in half (adjusting for the holiday last Thursday). Now put the weekend take down, say, 15%. That's a 33% drop for the week overall.

That's the kind of scenario I was trying to describe, which is what Avatar is tracking to with Monday's number.

Looks like with Monday's take it jumped Jurassic Park domestically. Next stop, Jesus.
 
DanielPlainview said:
It's kind of unfathomable that this will the be #1 grossing movie of all time. There is just so much fucking crow to be eaten.

Someone needs to make a countdown on how much more it needs to make before it gets $1.8B

More than that... how will we party?? :|

Btw does Sculli have a tag already or what? Perhaps now duckroll (the obvious mod to do it, since he posts so much in here and teased Sculli so many times haha) should wait until it dethrones Titanic and then we have to find something appropriate. Such dedication over the years and this kind of vindication deserves a great tag. =)
 
Id wager that Avatar would have had a nom this year even in a 5 film running. Also, with those most recent numbers, Avatar is now only $39.8M behind TDK and closing fast.
 
ryutaro's mama said:
Not only that but he's in a freaking body that isn't his own. The weight of that hitting you would be overwhelming. I would think all he wanted to do was see how this whole thing worked...like a baby.

I mean, imagine if Jake opened his pod and saw himself laying there.
That could have been an awesome scene.
 
Avatar

--> movie speculation
--> review speculation
--> box office speculation
--> oscar speculation
--> ??? DVD sales speculation ???

Yeesh. It's really the scale and the tenacity that shocks me so. Loved the movie, though.
 
Solo said:
Id wager that Avatar would have had a nom this year even in a 5 film running. Also, with those most recent numbers, Avatar is now only $39.8M behind TDK and closing fast.
Yup. And how's this for another comparison, since RotK opened the same weekend as Avatar. It did $2.2m the same Monday. 0_o
 
Brace yourself! 3-D entertainment is coming to a television set near you.

Both ESPN and Discovery Communications announced Tuesday that they will launch 3-D TV networks. ESPN will start airing its 3-D sports network in June, while Discovery Communications did not specify when it would begin airing 3-D content.


3-D entertainment has been gaining in popularity, most notably with the release of the 3-D film "Avatar," showing in theaters now.

ESPN's new network, to be named ESPN 3D, will air at least 85 live sporting events in its first year. The first 3-D event will be the FIFA World Cup between South Africa and Mexico on June 11.

"ESPN's commitment to 3-D is a win for fans and our business partners," the sports network said in a statement. "ESPN 3D marries great content with new technology to enhance the fan's viewing experience and puts ESPN at the forefront of the next big advance for TV viewing."

The sports network said it has had "productive discussions" with cable and satellite affiliates, and it believes many will sign on.

Demand for more realistic sports programming was one of the main motivators for affiliates to offer high definition broadcasting and for consumers to buy HD TV sets. Likewise, ESPN believes that there is the same type of strong demand for 3-D sports entertainment.

To view the 3-D channels, customers will have to buy a special 3D-HDTV set, which are currently available from most manufacturers. Discovery said it hopes that its network drives consumer adoption of 3-D televisions.

Although ESPN 3D will only air during specific live events, Discovery's new channel will be the nation's first 24/7 3-D network.

Discovery Communications, which owns the Discovery Channel and TLC among other cable channels, partnered with Sony and IMAX to develop the new 3-D station.

"By partnering with Sony and IMAX on 3-D, Discovery will lead the way in revolutionizing the next-generation home viewing experience in the U.S. and around the world," said Discovery Communications CEO David Zaslav in a statement.

The 3-D Discovery network will show natural history, space, science and technology programming as well as movies. Discovery will provide the content, Sony will advertise and license 3-D films, and IMAX will license movies and the technology for the venture

espn_3d_camera.top.jpg


http://money.cnn.com/2010/01/05/technology/3d_tv/index.htm

WOW doesn't that camera look similar to the one James Cameron used?
 
Wow I'm taking a bunch of old electronics right now to a place called Free Geek, located on Pandora St.. I expect to see some of you there!
 
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