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DanielPlainview said:
25?
Dwayne is licking his chops at the prospect of a C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER for ABUHDAR.
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25?
Dwayne is licking his chops at the prospect of a C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER for ABUHDAR.
25 million would be shockingly low for Avatar this weekend--it would be a 40% drop for a movie that has yet to drop even 30% weekend-to-weekend, even coming off the Christmas holidays. 31-32m would be my guess, and it could easily go higher. Honestly I am not sure what whoever predicted that is smoking that he or she thinks it's going to suddenly start dropping like The Dark Knight.DanielPlainview said:
This has been an atypically strong year for animated films. I will vouch for the quality of at least five that deserve an Oscar nomination of one sort or another: Up, Coraline, Fantastic Mr. Fox, Princess and the Frog, and Ponyo. I haven't seen Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs but I'm aware it has its share of enthusiastic fans.Discotheque said:
ryutaro's mama said:
Oh for the love of god please let this movie flop...PLEASE!
I'm going with 32-33 for the weekend for Avatar and will get its 6th weekend at #1 and the highest 6th weekend ever record. Edge of Darkness will beat it next weekend for sure and I doubt it will beat titanics 7th weekend record...all down hill from here guys we only have 2+ billion to look forward too now :lol
Depending on how it does next weekend, it actually has a shot at both seven consecutive weeks at number one and Titanic's seventh week record. A 20% drop from a 32m sixth weekend (which seems to be the norm for Avatar) gives me a 25.6m seventh weekend, just barely surpassing Titanic's seventh. And with Edge of Darkness tracking in the mid-twenties, anything could happen re: number one seventh week. If it does take number one (and make no mistake, neither that nor its taking the seventh weekend record from Titanic are anything like certain), it ties for 10th-most consecutive weeks at number one of all time, at least as far back as BOM's data goes. I don't know how From Paris With Love is tracking so I have no idea if the eighth weekend record is even remotely feasible.Somnia said:
Oh, as for $2+ billion, that's going to be happening pretty soon, so I certainly hope we have something to look forward to afterwards.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
You know, I'm sure that in 1977 when Star Wars came out, there were a lot of expert science fiction fans who saw it, thought it looked amazing, but balked at how trite and crappy the story was - and oh how predictable! The Hero's Journey, played out perfectly to the final note! Some however, might have admitted that in addition to the universe itself being rendered with incredible imagination and detail, that the characters, while ham-fisted, where done with passion.
And that sounds a lot like Avatar. Interestingly, just as the general public ate up Star Wars, the public is eating up Avatar.
I think that Avatar has flaws in the storytelling, in the dialog choices, and so forth. I also think those are completely irrelevant to what the movie is actually doing, and most people seemed to have responded to it on its own terms.
And hey, if Avatar has to be the new Star Wars, I'll actually take it over SW. Its science is still far better (FAR FAR better), its universe is even more meticulously constructed, and its "mystical" elements, while they may be presented every bit as sappily as The Force was in Star Wars, have a fascinating biological/scientific foundation that beats out midichloreans any day of the week.
And that sounds a lot like Avatar. Interestingly, just as the general public ate up Star Wars, the public is eating up Avatar.
I think that Avatar has flaws in the storytelling, in the dialog choices, and so forth. I also think those are completely irrelevant to what the movie is actually doing, and most people seemed to have responded to it on its own terms.
And hey, if Avatar has to be the new Star Wars, I'll actually take it over SW. Its science is still far better (FAR FAR better), its universe is even more meticulously constructed, and its "mystical" elements, while they may be presented every bit as sappily as The Force was in Star Wars, have a fascinating biological/scientific foundation that beats out midichloreans any day of the week.
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Somnia said:
Oh c'mon...you don't wanna see xaosslug create a thread title like: Titanic's Successor hits Rock
Kaijima said:
Please do not say that word =(
I agree with everything you said though. I've made the same argument earlier with people about A New Hope. Star Wars improved ten fold with the 2nd film (Empire...) and I can't wait to see what Cameron will pull off with the second as I see him taking more risks now that the universe is fully built and the public have been sucked into the world.
ryutaro's mama said:
I'm more interested in what kinda title he'll come up with when it gets #1...I think ideas for the thread title ran out months ago :lol
I think it's a bit early to be suggesting Avatar is the next Star Wars. It takes more than even a record breaking blockbuster to have the impact on public consciousness that Star Wars had, and the kids who might make it happen won't be old enough to do so for quite a while.
Not that I disagree, but I don't think it's another Jurassic Park, either. Communities never formed around Jurassic Park. Especially if the rest of the trilogy is good, I can definitely see Avatar getting up there in terms of following, even if it can never quite get to Star Wars's level (but that should be complemented somewhat by the fact that George Lucas has ruined the brand over the last ten years).maharg said:
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We just never invited you.Sharp said:
I watched Avatar again today for the third time. I was expecting the IMax cinema to be quite empty, after all it's been out since mid December. But what do I know, at Friday afternoon people were still making long lines to queue for Avatar, and all the tickets were sold out! Lucky for me I bought mine on the Internet. When I went in too, all the seats were filled until the front seats.
The little details Cameron put on the movie are just endearing. I notice today when Jake was flying and greeting Neytiri, his banshee also spoke mimicking him. It's these kind of things that reward me for being a repeat customer.
I really like this movie. It's the type of movies I went to cinema for. You can't replicate that kind of experience at home, even though 99% these days I prefer the home experience.
<3 Avatar
The little details Cameron put on the movie are just endearing. I notice today when Jake was flying and greeting Neytiri, his banshee also spoke mimicking him. It's these kind of things that reward me for being a repeat customer.
I really like this movie. It's the type of movies I went to cinema for. You can't replicate that kind of experience at home, even though 99% these days I prefer the home experience.
<3 Avatar
FuturusX said:
They might not have won, but as mentioned Beauty and the Beast was nominated for best picture, and Life is Beautiful was nominated for best picture as well. Just because they did not win does not mean anything, since there were other shows which were also nominated for best picture and did not win.
A lot more than what was in the first movie would have to be added to the Avatar franchise to make it as expansive as Star Wars. Honestly, it reminds me of the Matrix and what people said about that potential franchise before the second movie came out. Admittedly, I'd expect Avatar 2 to be a whole lot better than the Matrix sequels, but I can't see it broadening its focus to the point it could be something like Star Wars.maharg said:
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When I saw this at the IMAX in London, there were hardly any kids. I guess because of the price, it is more difficult for parents to take all their kids to see Avatar. So I am wondering if as many kids get to see this in the cinema as there should be.
And about Beauty and the Beast getting the BP nom, didn't the animated category get introduced right after that happened, as if to ensure that it can't happen again?
Trust me, a lot of kids have seen it. If you're over ten or so it's the in thing to see Avatar. I don't know about really young kids, though, parents may not be taking them more out of concern for the language than anything else.Timbuktu said:
Nope, it didn't get added until Pixar started producing movies of absurd quality every year. At the time Beauty and the Beast was considered a one-off, but when Pixar was producing some of the best movies of the year every single year and not getting honored at all, they felt like they had to do something. In the process, though, they inadvertently cut off its chances at Best Picture.
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Sharp said:
Yeah, that was THR that said $25M, some others are predicting $31M
What floors me about all this isn't that Avatar is going to set the record (I've adjusted to that), but the speed and likely margin it's going to set the record by. When Titanic came out, it doubled the world-wide gross of the #2 movie at the time, topping it by $800m.Sharp said:
Since then there's been a cluster of movies that stalled out at or just above $1b, but nothing got within $700m of Titanic. And Avatar is going to top Titanic by a solid $500m or more: it's looking to at least double the take of the previous #2 movie (RotK with $1.1b).
Talk about sandbagging...
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GhaleonEB said:
As James shows the other blockbusters the door
Today's entry in The Envelope Roundtable - the directors discuss marketing a movie
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/mov...oundtable-challenges-of-marketing-a-film.html
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/mov...oundtable-challenges-of-marketing-a-film.html
Yep. Seen all of them. Check out his review on Sunshine. Glorious.Bit-Bit said:
I was really expecting QT commentary on IB. But he never does those, right? Even though it'd be the only commentary worth listening to of its caliber.
So true :lolBlader5489 said:
I actually love that about him. His passion just takes over and you can clearly see he WANTS to explain this to you. He wants you to know why the film is what it is. Just incredibly fascinating. I can't wait for his 20 page review of Superman Returns.
yeah. Reitman is full of bullshit. He shouldn't even be sitting near those greats such as Cameron and Tarantino.icarus-daedelus said:
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I just read this article in the New York Times which summarizes a good part of why I believe Avatar is having such a success. In a way 'Avatar' as a movie itself is acting as a proxy for a lot of people's issues. It's too long to post here, but I'll post the first couple of paragraphs.
You Saw What in Avatar? Pass Those Glasses!
You Saw What in Avatar? Pass Those Glasses!
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feminists are mad at Avatar? word?
Vic said:
from my local imax website: http://www.mods.org/IMAX/showtimes.htm
1/22/2010- Friday
Dinosaurs: Giants of Patagonia 3D
10:15 AM
12:35 PM
Under the Sea 3D
11:30 AM
AVATAR: An IMAX 3D Experience
1:40 PM
4:45 PM
7:50 PM (SOLD OUT)
10:55 PM (SOLD OUT)
1/23/2010- Saturday
Under the Sea 3D
10:00 AM
Dinosaurs: Giants of Patagonia 3D
11:05 AM
3:15 PM
AVATAR: An IMAX 3D Experience
12:10 PM (SOLD OUT)
4:25 PM (SOLD OUT)
7:35 PM (SOLD OUT)
10:45 PM
1/24/2010- Sunday
AVATAR: An IMAX 3D Experience
12:00 PM (SOLD OUT)
4:15 PM (SOLD OUT)
7:25 PM (SOLD OUT)
10:35 PM
Dinosaurs: Giants of Patagonia 3D
3:05 PM
Johnny Utah
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Don't see Avatar mythology holding up like Star Wars, not even close.
But it ALL depends on Avatar 2.
But it ALL depends on Avatar 2.
A slightly different look at Avatar's legs. It's been out 35 days now, so here's the week (Fri-Thur) box office earnings:
Week 2 and Week 5 were almost flat to the previous week, lifted up by the holidays. Avatar has settled into ~20% drops against-non holiday days.
Should have a more predictable decline from here on out.
Of course, it it hits 20% drops from here on out, it ends up with $780m domestic (though it won't once it sheds 3D screens).
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Avatar Drop
Week 1 $137,094,051
Week 2 $146,530,159 7% Christmas
Week 3 $96,916,087 -34% New Year's
Week 4 $69,926,708 -28%
Week 5 $66,330,413 -5% MLK Holiday
Total $516,797,418Should have a more predictable decline from here on out.
Of course, it it hits 20% drops from here on out, it ends up with $780m domestic (though it won't once it sheds 3D screens).
ryutaro's mama
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Someone better tell Gordon to "call it in"
By Monday, the Bat will be no more.
By Monday, the Bat will be no more.
PhoncipleBone
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ryutaro's mama said:
I say by the end of Saturday the bat is gone.
Kai Dracon
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I think one of the reasons why "everyone's mad at Avatar" is because everyone KNOWS about Avatar. Most movies like this, sci-fi or fantasy with a bizarre hodgepodge of ideas, don't ping on mainstream consciousness. Even later day Star Trek series were no longer in the world's zeitgeist, and those were full of unusual stories that would make people uncomfortable.
... but Avatar is like the Biggest Thang Evar and nobody can ignore it. So now everybody's issues are coming to light.
... but Avatar is like the Biggest Thang Evar and nobody can ignore it. So now everybody's issues are coming to light.
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Bit-Bit said:
These would have been filmed before the actual awards ceremony.
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