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Rottenwatch: AVATAR (82%)

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ROTF is visual spectacle and LITERALLY nothing else. Still made bank. I'm sure a movie with a little story behind the best visual spectacle in years will do fine
 
CassidyIzABeast said:
ROTF is visual spectacle and LITERALLY nothing else. Still made bank. I'm sure a movie with a little story behind the best visual spectacle in years will do fine

That was Transformers 1. TF2 was just absolutely heinous.
 
Count Dookkake said:
Have any Bayformers fans stepped forward to slag Avatar?

Bayformer fan here. :D They are two very different propositions i knew what i was getting with TF2 a dumb,loud, Michaell Bay film and that's what i got.

With Avatar things seem a bit more thoughtful characters are... and not going into spoiler territory are given time to breathe and get used to their surroundings.

All this moaning over a 'cliche' story is just nitpicking,most films are cliche as hell but as i've said before in this thread as long as the characters and situations are interesting and engaging that doesn't matter.
 
silverbullet1080 said:
Because the design of the aliens and mechs look like total ass? And while it's well told, it seems like most reviews seem to agree that the story isn't anything fresh.

1. That's your opinion that they look like ass. Most don't seem to agree.

2. Most stories in movies aren't fresh, so how is this movie any different in that respect?
 
Masaki_ said:
Style over substance? What kind of stupid reasoning is that? This is a fucking movie. If it's an "outstanding visual masterpiece", then it's an outstanding film.

To put it simply, style IS substance here.



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Solo said:
Dude, you've read the scriptment :lol

No, I read the first quarter of the scriptment MORE THAN 4 YEARS ago. I read up until Jake became his AVATAR and thats it. The thing didn't even remotely resemble a proper treatment.
 
Scullibundo said:
No, I read the first quarter of the scriptment MORE THAN 4 YEARS ago. I read up until Jake became his AVATAR and thats it. The thing didn't even remotely resemble a proper treatment.

YOU CUNT YOU SPOILED IT FOR ME :(
 
Was talkng to someone this weekend about this..he thought that Avatar was the name of "the tribe of blue indians". The Avatar tribe :lol

some people just don't pay attention to commercials.
 
rhino4evr said:
Was talkng to someone this weekend about this..he thought that Avatar was the name of "the tribe of blue indians". The Avatar tribe :lol

some people just don't pay attention to commercials.


:lol

WOW!
 
Scullibundo said:
:(

I'll make sure to see it a second time in that period just for you.

You need to see it a third time for me. I haven't been able to get confirmation on a baby sitter and may not even get to see it this weekend.
 
I had a dream last night that I went to see AVATAR, but got too drunk and blacked out and didn't remember any of it. :lol
 
What I really love about Cameron's mech/tech designs are that they are built around a "functional" foundation, where one could see them as machines that could exist and function in the real world.

Most other mechs, especially japanese, are not this way and just are built based on what looks good. I actually think designing a machine that is functional is much more difficult than designing one that just looks pretty.
 
I am one of the few that will probably have to wait until after Xmas to see it, as this weekend and the next are booked solid with responsibilities.
 
Jtwo said:
I had a dream last night that I went to see AVATAR, but got too drunk and blacked out and didn't remember any of it. :lol


That would suck if it happened for real.
 
Just a heads up.

RT has updated with one more review (42/46 now) from Time magazine. The review is interesting because it's from someone who somewhat famously trashed Titanic. He talks about that review, and how Avatar is superior to Titanic in his view; it's a very positive review overall.

But he decided to describe the very last shot in the movie in the opening sentence of the review. It's not a huge spoiler. But it's not something I did not appreciated, to put it lightly.
 
mckmas8808 said:
That would suck if it happened for real.
Happened to me at the midnight showing of Watchmen.
I had to go back 2 days later and see it for realsies.
 
GhaleonEB said:
Just a heads up.

RT has updated with one more review (42/46 now) from Time magazine. The review is interesting because it's from someone who somewhat famously trashed Titanic. He talks about that review, and how Avatar is superior to Titanic in his view; it's a very positive review overall.

But he decided to describe the very last shot in the movie in the opening sentence of the review. It's not a huge spoiler. But it's not something I did not appreciated, to put it lightly.

The Richard Corliss one? That was a nicely-written review.
 
The Dream was surprisingly detailed.
I remember getting up to go to the bathroom and slipping on the tile floor. And then like all of a sudden I was wearing sweatpants and no shoes.
And I kept kicking the person the seat in front of me.

The actual "footage" of AVATAR was really weird too, there were like 4 or 5 screens all next to eachother playing the exact same thing.


I'm kind of depressed I dreamt about AVATAR now.
 
Jtwo said:
I'm kind of depressed I dreamt about AVATAR now.
What's worse? That you dreamed about Avatar or that you described the dream in totality to GAF?

This entire thread makes me uncomfortable. I occasionally come in to see if there are any interesting developments (e.g. Armond White review), but just find the most trivial musings. :(
 
Combine said:
What I really love about Cameron's mech/tech designs are that they are built around a "functional" foundation, where one could see them as machines that could exist and function in the real world.

Most other mechs, especially japanese, are not this way and just are built based on what looks good. I actually think designing a machine that is functional is much more difficult than designing one that just looks pretty.

The robots of this movie were designed just to look pretty though. They look small and detailed enough to have a vaguely "real" look, but that's it, there was no worry at all about their actual functionality.

The whole cockpit, basically exposed, is an incridebly design oversight and most of the details are just there to make the machines look...detailed. Many don't seem to have any kind of function.
 
Jtwo said:
The Dream was surprisingly detailed.
I remember getting up to go to the bathroom and slipping on the tile floor. And then like all of a sudden I was wearing sweatpants and no shoes.
And I kept kicking the person the seat in front of me.

The actual "footage" of AVATAR was really weird too, there were like 4 or 5 screens all next to eachother playing the exact same thing.


I'm kind of depressed I dreamt about AVATAR now.

I had a dream I couldn't buy advance tickets for LotR: The Two Towers and missed seeing the movie on opening day. I shit you not, I woke up in a panic. If there was any doubt I was the worlds biggest nerd, it was erased at that moment.
 
NeonZ said:
The robots of this movie were designed just to look pretty though. They looks small and detailed enough to have a vaguely "real" look, but that's it, there was no worry at all about their actual functionality.

The whole cockpit, basically exposed, is an incridebly design oversight and most of the details are just there to make the machines look...detailed. Many don't seem to have any kind of function.

I think all of Cameron's machines have lots of character and look cool, but also have a slightly "ugly" side to them. He doesn't do aesthetically beautiful designs whether they are practical or not.

It fits well in his fascination with machines, but also his disdain in them, as evidenced in his films.
 
It's kinda hard to believe I'm going to see it tomorrow. The wait for this film has been something of a constant over the past few years. And I love how easy it is to convince people to go watch it. Any sign of hesitation and you casually mention that it's from the maker of "Terminator 2" or "Titanic" - or, if in truly dire straights, drop both.
 
Socreges said:
What's worse? That you dreamed about Avatar or that you described the dream in totality to GAF?
Posting about it on GAF in my dream and then posting about that on GAF would be worse.
 
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