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Koodo said:
The movie was too long. I started getting bored to tears until the end.
JGS said:
Ok, that actually does make sense. Bravo to Cameron for making the battlefield easy to follow geographically.
Why weren't they met or attacked after they landed the trailer so close to their sacred area? You'd think they'd be on edge especially after what happened to the hometree. I suppose the only answer would be they were in too much sorrow and pain to do much.
ToxicAdam said:
First of all, it doesn't matter because the intricacy of the plot was aim exactly at the Disney 2D animations' level.
Second, you have to remember this is a frontier colony town. Think of it as early American settlements. There were alot of cases of settlers being attacked by the natives. Also there was a case of a whole settlement disappear after a winter. It is very expensive to colonize a new continent/planet when the technology is not there yet.
ToxicAdam said:
This is why I don't think this movie is too cliched because that battle was not typical.
I do not think a typical ending would have worked well as it was never realistically an even match and I think he may have been going for a Shock & Awe type of battle that was going to be quick. To me, he seemed to set it up this way at Hometree(?).
There was never a time that the fight would have been realistically even, on one side when the Marines had the upper hand, and on the other, when the whole of Pandora stepped in, which immediately turned the tide in the opposite direction where the sky people weren't able to put up a good fight.
It's also why the "important" battle had to be between Jake and the the commander since the big battle swung rapidly from one side to the other.
There was never a time that the fight would have been realistically even, on one side when the Marines had the upper hand, and on the other, when the whole of Pandora stepped in, which immediately turned the tide in the opposite direction where the sky people weren't able to put up a good fight.
It's also why the "important" battle had to be between Jake and the the commander since the big battle swung rapidly from one side to the other.
Jamesfrom818
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NetMapel said:
MY SISTER IS HAVING MY BABY!
NetMapel said:
Off Topic response to you: Check out his other roles, the guy has an INTENSE range and is a damn good actor
On Topic: LOVED this movie, not much I can say that hasn't been said, might have said it last night after the movie can't remember, either way its really good!
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just saw the movie in IMAX 3D. Holy fuck that's a great movie. I'd pay another $15 to see it again right now.
one note about 3D, I agree with others here that the 3D did nothing for me, I would've rather watched the movie in regular IMAX. Making shit blurry/depth of field(?) of what I'm trying to focus on just annoyed me I don't always look at exactly what the filmmaker wants me to see
So I've tried both 3D technologies and I say pass.
one note about 3D, I agree with others here that the 3D did nothing for me, I would've rather watched the movie in regular IMAX. Making shit blurry/depth of field(?) of what I'm trying to focus on just annoyed me I don't always look at exactly what the filmmaker wants me to see
So I've tried both 3D technologies and I say pass.
Just came back from seeing this in IMAX 3D and man I didn't think Cameron would deliver but goddam. The movie delivered on every aspect good story, good action, basically everything I could want out of a movie. The IMAX showing I went to was at 10:20 and it was PACKED. Actually all the rest of the shows that day were sold out this movie is gonna make a shit ton of movie. At the end of the me and my friends yelled out "FUCKIN JAMES CAMERON" and the whole theater started clapping :lol
http://www.zbrushcentral.com/showthread.php?t=079195
Tons of concepts, models, and other stuff by one of the main artists on the project.
Tons of concepts, models, and other stuff by one of the main artists on the project.
Meier said:
Friends is what they got out of him? Not even Saving Private Ryan or Flight of the Phoenix out of his works?
Anyway, question.
How long did it take them to get to Pandora again? Was it 6 years? If its orbiting Alpha Centauri, that means they speeds close to the speed of light!?
(I just wish we could travel to other systems :lol )
tino said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py5dRkvsAkM
Krull works for me. I think Avatar will work for me.
I bought tickets online for a 3D showing this morning, but they oversold and there was only 1 seat left for me and 4 friends, so we saw the 2D.
It was still really damn immersive. This is the first (part) CG movie I've seen that I've actually believed in the world presented.
I'd say the worst part about the movie was that the setting was more interesting than every single character combined.
Scratch that, the worst part was that Michelle Rodriguez never got out of her overalls.
Awesome movie. I'll go to see it again in 3D.
It was still really damn immersive. This is the first (part) CG movie I've seen that I've actually believed in the world presented.
I'd say the worst part about the movie was that the setting was more interesting than every single character combined.
Scratch that, the worst part was that Michelle Rodriguez never got out of her overalls.
Awesome movie. I'll go to see it again in 3D.
Jamesfrom818
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Since I've been on complete blackout on this movie until commercials for it started flooding television, I had no idea that the weird (comparatively) scientist from Bones was in this as well. It makes that Avatar episode of Bones so much better.
Zeliard said:So I guess that Cameron's stealth multi-year project to put Michelle Rodriguez in the good graces of fans has been a massive success.
Did you guys all get applause at the end of your showings, by the way? Movie's a definite audience-pleaser.
Yea. My friend started the clapping right when at the end. Then the whole theater joined in. I'm definitely going to see this movie again, in 3D probably. I can't now though, to much snow here in MD.
This movie re-sparked my interest of planets / moons like this. I am always interested in that stuff, its just seeing how close Cameron placed the setting, made me do as much research to see if were making any progress on travel :lol :lol
Gary Whitta said:
True. Though, the one thing I'm optimistic about when it comes to something like watching the Avatar Blu-Ray at home is that the colors are MUCH nicer and much more vibrant without the 3D glasses.
If you go see Avatar again, remove your glasses for just a second during some scenes. The difference in saturation is rather huge.
I took them off a couple of times during the Pandoran night scenes and my god. The vibrancy and sheer color on the bioluminescent flora was really a sight to behold. When they get 3D to work without dimming the picture, it's all over.
I have seen Saving Private Ryans and Lost in Translation or other movies with Giovanni Ribisi in it. However, I don't remember a lick of his performance in those movies. I'm sure he's a great actor and I don't mean any disrespect. I just only remember his performance from Friends, as I'm sure many people do.
Seriously. I used to think maybe 2012, District 9 or Transformers 2 could compete with the movie visually. However, after tonight's viewing in 3D, I was floored. There is just no competition. If this movies doesn't win the VFX category in Oscar, there will be much rage.pxleyes said:
NetMapel said:
His single biggest part was probably in Boiler Room, where he was in nearly every scene.
Ribisi's character in this movie was so damn confusing. It was obvious they were trying to make him seem like he was somewhat remorseful for his actions after a while (especially compared with Stephen Lang), but they only did that with a couple of glances at his face when he seemed to be considering what they were doing.
I don't mind the subtlety there but it still wasn't nearly enough, overall, to give an indication of where he really stood. His character felt severely shortchanged, like a bunch of his scenes had been cut out. It seemed like he was ultimately meant to be the middle ground between Lang and Weaver's characters, but the movie never really got there with him.
Never saw Boiler Room, but allow me to bring my discussion more on-topic now. I honestly thought he's going toZeliard said:
be the good guy in the end and call off the invasion or something... or sack the big bad military general guy. However, he did nothing, which I guess it's entirely realistic seeing as he's just a puppet leader in this military-driven project. We shall see what the sequel brings 
That very last scene of the movie screams AVATAR 2 to me.
That very last scene of the movie screams AVATAR 2 to me.They already did this with Benjamin Buttons, right ? Very cool to see Brad Pitt's younger and potential older self. I wonder if it totally freaked him out to see what he might look like when he's old.mrkgoo said:
LeMaximilian
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Words are hard to describe Avatar for me. Watched it twice, once in Imax Experience 3d and regular 2d. Loved it, both showings.
There's some moments that are so emotionally and visually stunning that it's almost to much...
The best way to describe Avatar is 'awesome'. Not like "This hot dog, it's awesome'. More around the lines of physical existence in a universe so vast that life beyond carbon existence is possible, awesome.
There's some moments that are so emotionally and visually stunning that it's almost to much...
The moment where Jake takes the huge Banshee to round up the other tribes, with the shot of him flying down the cliff with the western sea tribe as the water crashes against the rocks with 50-100 banshees flying down... My eyes started watering and this huge emotional surge came up from my chest. It wasn't like I was crying, but the visual stimuli actually brought me too tears.
Also, the moment where Neytiri's mother comes up to Jake, bound to the tree and says "If you're one of us, help us.", got to me hard both times.
Also, the moment where Neytiri's mother comes up to Jake, bound to the tree and says "If you're one of us, help us.", got to me hard both times.
The best way to describe Avatar is 'awesome'. Not like "This hot dog, it's awesome'. More around the lines of physical existence in a universe so vast that life beyond carbon existence is possible, awesome.
It's been a while since I've seen a movie that gave me such an experience that I actually miss it, and crave going back. Many moments in the movie I want to see again, but more so the overall experience. I came out of Avatar just reeling, and now that the hit has worn off I want to go get another.
Umm, you saw how big those mountains are right? Plus flying in those things messes up most of the instrumentation in the flying vehicles, so it'd probably be deemed to risky. It also seemed that most of their mining equipment was ground based (huge stuff) so I don't think they have any air vehicles that could carry those things. The Dragon and Valkyrie aren't exactly that large.pxleyes said:
Two thoughts on that. One, while way in the future I didn't see any indication that they had the technology or resources haul away/move mountains (even floating ones), or get those massive mining machines on top of mountains of questionable stability. Not to mention all the difficulty of dealing with the interference in that location.pxleyes said:
Second, if they were having a hard time getting the Na'vi to leave their home tree, I can only imagine the shitstorm that would have erupted had they tried to start destroying the mountains right over their most sacred location.
I was exaggerating a bit with the whole "hauling them off" thing, but they had no problem lifting a science facility up there, and while the instrumentation went wacky, it was due to the ore in the first place, not to mention it doesn't prevent flight beyond making it fly by sight.Combine said:
I guess what bothers me most is the declaration that the land the tree sits on holds the highest concentration (hell its in the trailer), but from what I am reading here that i far from correct. Fascinating stuff, really. I'm glad I was able to find out why the mountains flew in the first place, which I thought they would explain a bit more in the movie (like at all).
lsslave said:
Yea, thats what I first thought of after seeing it, just alien and alien rather than same planet man.
GhaleonEB said:
This. I went in not knowing much but coming out I felt attached. I want to see it again because it was such an experience that I want to see it again and again. Seeing this made me want it to be real. Like I wish this was part of our present just because Pandora looks so fucking cool.
There has been people posting about similarities with other things for months. Actually years since the scriptment has been in circulation for a while.lsslave said:
It happened in our history. White men did indeed fall in love with Indians. We wanted resources from them. We relocated and killed them unjustly.
I don't really know how noble they were. I know they fought wars with other Indians. And some were scalpers. But I know nature was important to them. They used animals instead of wasted them.
When filmmakers study a tribe in Africa the only way to learn about them is to stay among them. There's people who study old cultures for a living.
I think it's ok to take logical influence and tell it in a new way.
By the way the only way to study animals is to film and stay among them. I think JC felt the thrill of that first hand and it has to be a impassioned feeling.
Saw this earlier today in IMAX3D. Visually stunning, even though the 3D effects weren't that great. The art direction is just on another level, Pandora and its inhabitants were beautifully "rendered". The story is cliched as expected, but I liked it, no complaints from me on that front.
Another note, I really appreciate how Cameron shoots the action scenes. I am so fucking tired of shaky/quick cutting actions scenes found in recent action films. Overall, I'd probably give it a solid 8.5/10. I will probably catch it again on a regular screen just to see how it is.
Another note, I really appreciate how Cameron shoots the action scenes. I am so fucking tired of shaky/quick cutting actions scenes found in recent action films. Overall, I'd probably give it a solid 8.5/10. I will probably catch it again on a regular screen just to see how it is.
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