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Zeliard said:
Well, Cameron has said that if the first makes enough money, there will be a sequel. So I think it's likely we'll see one. Remains to be seen exactly what he'll work on next, though.
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A deep ocean diving documentary unfortunately.
 
I was thinking that Avatar 2 could take place in the same universe, even the same time frame, but in a different context. That is, on another planet/moon apart from Pandora, but dealing with the fact that humans have this avatar technology.

Cameron might want to return to Pandora, though, if only because he has an existing base (less work). Plus, the nemesis (the corporation, Giovanni Ribisi) still remains. For me, though, a sequel in that vain might not be as interesting. The story was pretty complete and a re-do (i.e., humans vs. Navi [sic], again) would by silly.
 
I'm listening to the score right now.


It's so fucking sad how many cues Horner lifted from Troy. A mediocre soundtrack in its own right. What's wrong with this guy? :P

An amazing score could've elevated this movie into one of my all time favorites. sucks.
 
Zeliard said:
Well, Cameron has said that if the first makes enough money, there will be a sequel. So I think it's likely we'll see one. Remains to be seen exactly what he'll work on next, though.
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Yeah, here's what he said at the London premier about them:
Cameron talked up two potential sequels during a press conference before Thursday’s London premiere.

“When I pitched it to Fox, they said, ‘We’ve spent a lot of money creating all these assets, all these CG mountains, plants, trees, leaves, flowers, bugs’ — everything you saw up there on screen had been made by people at workstations over a period of years and so they have value,” said Cameron, who told the assembled U.K. media outlets that he has worked out the story for a second and third film.

“So in terms of the pitch it was: OK, you’ve spent a lot of money on the first one; on the second one we’ll be able to amortize it and focus on the story and all that ... and they bought that.”

While Fox said the property clearly has sequel potential, the studio would not confirm any definitive plans on future “Avatar” installments.
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Pretty much every film composer rips off himself. The longer the career and the more success hes had, the more often you see it. The only difference is that some have no subltety whatsoever about it, like Horner or Danny Elfman. You never hear John Williams being ripped for doing it, even though he has done it just as much. The greats hide it better.
 
Socreges said:
I was thinking that Avatar 2 could take place in the same universe, even the same time frame, but in a different context. That is, on another planet/moon apart from Pandora, but dealing with the fact that humans have this avatar technology.

Cameron might want to return to Pandora, though, if only because he has an existing base (less work). Plus, the nemesis (the corporation, Giovanni Ribisi) still remains. For me, though, a sequel in that vain might not be as interesting. The story was pretty complete and a re-do (i.e., humans vs. Navi [sic], again) would by silly.
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I'd rather see that than Pandora again.
 
Socreges said:
:(

I guess we're going back to Pandora. I was hoping for something entirely different.
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Well, he will be doing some more deep-underwater diving stuff. But of course, that too could be conceivably so he can have more inspiration for the next film.
 
The thing I'm most disappointed with in Avatar is the character development, or lack thereof. Most characters are quite onedimensional and flat, and the few characters that are not are underdeveloped. I especially think Selfridge was a character with a lot of potential that was basically never explored.
 
Solo said:
Pretty much every film composer rips off himself. The longer the career and the more success hes had, the more often you see it. The only difference is that some have no subltety whatsoever about it, like Horner or Danny Elfman. You never hear John Williams being ripped for doing it, even though he has done it just as much. The greats hide it better.
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Eh? I couldn't even count the number of times I've heard someone comment on the fact that it's easy to mix up Superman and Star Wars' themes. Williams is, imo, a much worse offender than Elfman, who's mostly notable because his instrument choices and style are not only common to all his music, but also extremely distinct from other film composers'. When Williams is derivative, it's easier to ignore since it then just sort of sounds like generic film composition that could be anyone's.
 
Falch said:
The thing I'm most disappointed with in Avatar is the character development, or lack thereof. Most characters are quite onedimensional and flat, and the few characters that are not are underdeveloped. I especially think Selfridge was a character with a lot of potential that was basically never explored.
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I think Cameron made the decision to make this a pure action movie. The pacing on it is almost perfect and any character development could have made screwed this movie up.
 
Synth_floyd said:
Not to knock Avatar but the IMDB top 250 list is about as impressive as the people's choice awards.
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In general, I enjoy most of the movies on the list, but it is so skewed to newer films that I tend to take it with a grain of salt.
 
I saw it on Friday in IMAX (film) 3D.
I saw it again last night in Digital3dD.

Digital 3D is vastly superior in every single way. There is no comparison.
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I have a theatre within five minutes of me that's showing this in both RealD 3D and the Digital IMAX 3D. Any idea which is the better of the two. I'm guessing the digital IMAX at least has better sound.

There's also a theater about 20 minutes away showing it in Dolby3D that I'm going to try later in the week (Wednesday night probably) to compare.

I saw UP in 3D, and I'm guessing it was RealD 3D and I found it somewhat dim, to be honest. I'm just wondering if the Digital IMAX is perhaps any brighter.

Anyway, between RealD and Digital IMAX, which would people choose?
 
I'm going to see this at 7PM EST. I bought tickets for 3D, but I have no idea which version my theater has. It's not listed anywhere.
 
I remember in a thread just a few months ago, a lot of talk about this being a huge flop and Fox losing $200M on it etc. We should find those threads.
 
Regarding the sequel talk... Jon Landau said this a couple months ago:
After all, here we are exploring the surface of the planet Pandora. The interior remains to be seen.
 
Dan said:
Regarding the sequel talk... Jon Landau said this a couple months ago:
After all, here we are exploring the surface of the planet Pandora. The interior remains to be seen.
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Avatar 2: The Core
 
Dan said:
Regarding the sequel talk... Jon Landau said this a couple months ago:
After all, here we are exploring the surface of the planet Pandora. The interior remains to be seen.
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No matter what, the sequel will be nowehere near as good considering
how much was lost.

However, they spent only a few seconds exploring all the other tribes. So what happens if a particularly large tribe on the other side of Pandora loses that connection and becomes the warring faction.

It could be a faithful vs. heathen battle. You would at least have a the epic fight some are saying is missing from the finale. The downside is they killed most of the people we cared about in the first movie
 
Does anyone want to buy me a ticket to see this on a Tuesday IMAX matinee in Austin? I am broke. All this hype is starting to make want to watch the Camcorder version...
 
If there is a sequel to Avatar, I would rather someone else step up and give their take on the universe and for Cameron to crack on with Battle Angel. Sure, he is good with sequels, but he was working with a much bigger budget in T2 compared with T1 and he was giving a new take to someone else's franchise with Aliens. Reversing Aliens and have Ridley do the sequel would be interesting.

Going to see Avatar at bfi IMAX tomorrow, the wait has be unbearable.
 
I expected this film to be absolute shit. How wrong I was. Awesome visual experience, story was so-so, but it's a mainstream movie so doesn't really matter. Sold on the 3D.
 
Absolutely phenomenal film.

It's just a shame I couldn't see it in 3D the first time, but I don't mind too much.

I have to somehow get tickets for the IMAX... if not I guess I'll settle for a smaller screen with RealD 3D.
 
Timbuktu said:
If there is a sequel to Avatar, I would rather someone else step up and give their take on the universe and for Cameron to crack on with Battle Angel. Sure, he is good with sequels, but he was working with a much bigger budget in T2 compared with T1 and he was giving a new take to someone else's franchise with Aliens. Reversing Aliens and have Ridley do the sequel would be interesting.
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Avatars, I'd bite.
 
saw it yesterday in 2D, really stunning visuals and great story, contemplating going to the 3D theater but since I wear glasses I am not sure if it will work properly.
 
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