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Rottenwatch: AVATAR (82%)
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I'm actually going to go ahead and say it will take maybe a year to get the home release version out, depending on what they want to do with it. Depending how many features and how extended the edition will be (will it just be the final final rendered footage that was "snipped" or are they going to try and create rendered scenes for the scenes that were filmed but were left out. All of that is no doubt up to Cameron). The Blu-Ray edition itself is no doubt going to be packed to the brim with features.Solo said:
Ah, I guess that reinforces what's been stated. I wonder how many scenes will be restored? I believe the estimate was that 40 minutes were cut.Tobor said:
The reason I say a year is because I believe that was the case with all the LOTR Extended Edition movies. Although, I think they released the theatrical edition first much earlier.
Becoming one of "The People" is so damn hypnotic. Great track, can't stop listening to the OST. I said long before that it was awesome and got shit for it as well lol but I still stand by it. I think it's really good.
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track is great as well.
I see you track is off the chain as well.
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Jake's first flight
I see you track is off the chain as well.
9/11 was a huge thing in the UK as well, I'd be surprised if it wasn't big news and 'life changing' everywhere. I didn't think it was strictly an American view point. My point was how many ways are there to blow up a tree? The argument that there was 'dust', and therefore it must be inspired by 9/11 is moronic though. Cameron is a freak when it comes to realism when it comes to things like that, it shouldn't surprise anyone that it's realistic. I also just disagree with the idea that it looks all that similar. Or that the actual incident itself was at all similar.Solo said:
layzie1989
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I think the intro to the movie was perfect. I'm talking up until the part where quaritch finishes his debfriefing. When the shuttle pulled away from the station and the camera followed it through the atmosphere I was like :O ...the music for that was excellent too.
Count Dookkake
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I really hope Cameron delays the home release as much as possible. Keep people in the theaters.
1) There are many ways to destroy a tree in a sci-fi/action setting.
2) No one said that dust meant 9/11. There are other similarities involving context and composition.
3) Empire Magazine, the biggest and most influential film magazine from the UK, saw the connection.
4) You are forgetting that one of your arguments was that Cameron wrote the 'scriptment' in the 90s and couldn't possibly have been influenced by 9/11.
5) It is okay.
stuburns said:
1) There are many ways to destroy a tree in a sci-fi/action setting.
2) No one said that dust meant 9/11. There are other similarities involving context and composition.
3) Empire Magazine, the biggest and most influential film magazine from the UK, saw the connection.
4) You are forgetting that one of your arguments was that Cameron wrote the 'scriptment' in the 90s and couldn't possibly have been influenced by 9/11.
5) It is okay.
UnluckyKate
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Is the snow storm affecting people to go to the movies ? Is it important to consider into the movie's numbers ?
The crazy thing about this movie for me personally and people I know is that I want to back to Imax 3D /reald 3d to see it again. I don't remember the last movie that had this effect on me, ever. Maybe more people feel this way as well and that in itself is great accomplishment imo.StoOgE said:
Boxofficemojo has the Friday estimates:
1. Sherlock Holmes - $24,860,000
2. Avatar - $23,500,000
3. Alvin and the Chipmunks 2 - $14,500,000
It's gonna be interesting if Saturday and Sunday will see a turnaround for Avatar. It could be that SH will drop off while Avatar will be going strong.
Avatar worldwide gross is $416,454,953
1. Sherlock Holmes - $24,860,000
2. Avatar - $23,500,000
3. Alvin and the Chipmunks 2 - $14,500,000
It's gonna be interesting if Saturday and Sunday will see a turnaround for Avatar. It could be that SH will drop off while Avatar will be going strong.
Avatar worldwide gross is $416,454,953
1) No, there really aren't, read the scriptment and tell me there how to do it to make it 'less' like 9/11, even though I don't think it bares any real resemblance anyway.Count Dookkake said:
2) Yes, they did.
3) The 'connection'? Considering the 'war on terror' connection Cameron has mentioned himself, purely in terms of the story, there is of course an obvious 'connection'. But it's a retrospective view point. I'm quite sure had he just released True Lies, we'd be having the exact same discussion. Maybe even with T2. A ton of movies have scenes which had the film been released post-9/11, people would see the events within it as reminiscent.
4) My point was I believe had 9/11 never happened, that scene would be exactly the same. And that people see what they want to see in it. If he wanted to reference 9/11, he could have done it better. If he just wanted a load of people to blow up a big tree, he did it very well.
Count Dookkake
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FoneBone said:
See also: Revenge of the Sith and Bush.
ymmv said:
This is what will happen.
Also, I think Avatar will end up taking the weekend.
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Only 14 posts mention 'dust.' None of them look to do what you claim.
TacticalFox88
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Holy shit at the BO intakes. Cameron sure knows howto wrap up a decade.
ryutaro's mama
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ymmv said:
Like Scrooge McDuck once said, " More, more I want to see more."
Count Dookkake
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FoneBone said:
No worries.
Count Dookkake
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stuburns said:
Both are certainly possible.
WrikaWrek said:
Its funny because both movies are awesome, and essentially share the exact same strengths and weaknesses (both have pretty weak scripts), and manage to overcome the weaknesses. The only real differences are that ST's cast put in much better/engaging overall performances, and Avatar's action is light years better.
VisionaryQuest0
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Jibril said:
MMmmmm Zoe... Even when as a Blue alien, very hot.
Strongly agreed on the better cast and characters in Star Trek, but not so much on the script... I mean, Trek's script is really, truly insultingly dumb, and while Avatar is cliched and predictable as hell, its internal logic is at least a lot more sound.Solo said:
But yeah, I think I still liked Trek better, and can't put my finger on why.
FoneBone said:
Making me choose between Avatar, ST and D9 is like making me choose between my unborn children. I suppose though that if I were pressed, for the overall package, Id rank them Avatar > Star Trek > District 9. The greater than signs dont mean a whole lot though because they are all so awesome in their own ways.
2009 rocks if for no other reason than for resurrecting mainstream sc-fi.
FoneBone said:
Direct me to where I said "worse". I said that I was ranking them on the overall package, which includes intangibles like how entertaining it was, replayability, the overall feeling the movie leaves me with, and so on. Objectively D9 does a lot of things better than Avatar or ST, but I prefer both movies to it due to those intangibles.
polyh3dron
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James Cameron: Responsible for increasing the population of furries in the world by a factor of 500 singlehandedly.StoOgE said:
yes I think she is hot in Avatar too
Well I think they tried to make it 'borderline' hot, she is hot in it, but it's not an instant 'holy shit I fancy an alien' thing, it takes some time. They could have given her a 'human' nose like Weaver's Avatar. Things like that, made her less alien. Although she is already the most human looking Na'vi. Most of them have horrid bones on their chest like an extended rib cage, she does not, well, I'm sure she does, it's just not visible.Combine said:
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