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Rottenwatch: AVATAR (82%)

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GhaleonEB said:
For those lamenting Avatar's weekend estimate as just barely falling below a couple records, keep this in mind: the estimate is for Avatar to drop 20% from Saturday to Sunday.

Last weekend, the drop was 3.1%. So there's probably a high degree of uncertainty in these numbers.

Box Office Mojo hasn't updated international numbers since Wednesday. But if the 2:1 ratio has held since then, WW gross is at $640m, placing it between Kung Fu Panda and Episode II Attack of the Clones on the all-time world-wide earnings list, at #42.

In 10 days.
Kung Fu Panda... wtf?
 
ymmv said:
Boxofficemojo weekend estimates:

1 - Avatar - $75,000,000 (-2.6% down from last weekend :D )
2 - Sherlock Holmes - $65,380,000
3 - Alvin and the Chipmunks: The Squeakquel - $50,200,000


Domestic: $212,268,000 45.4%
+ Foreign: $255,686,953 54.6%
= Worldwide: $467,954,953

No way! That's incredible.
 
And pretty much everyone after last week, including a lot of optimists, were predicting that Avatar would drop no less than 30% this weekend. Those predictions only started changing after Avatar was shown barely dropping throughout the week.
 
stuburns said:
So 2.6, how strange is that box office followers? I gather crazy good.

Unheard of. Most blockbusters drop 40-50% in the second week. It's even worse with sequels and genre movies. A 30% drop would have been very good for a SciFi movie like Avatar. -2.6% is incredible.

The interesting question is how much Avatar will make in 2009. It's the # 7 movie of the year at the moment. It will surpass Star Trek in a few days but there aren't enough days left this year for it to get in the top three. There's no doubt whatsoever that Avatar will make more than 300 million dollars. The only question is whether it will pass the 400 million dollar mark and surpass Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen as the overal US BO winner.
 
koam said:
No way! That's incredible.
International take hasn't updated since Wednesday.

Edit: there we go. Though I don't think that's the full weekend, looks like through Saturday since they don't update international until actuals are in.
 
Jesus @ those numbers. And I keep having to remind myself that this is still, just the first damn week the movie's been out and only its second weekend.

Looks good for both Avatar sequels and Alita, I can't imagine FOX denying Cameron anything ever again now. Although, I suppose the studio will be wanting an Avatar sequel first and foremost. Though, I guess it will all come down to just what Cameron wants to do. All he's said so far is for his upcoming plans outside of his next deep-sea dive is writing the Novel for the first film and overseeing the home releases.
 
Jibril said:

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"sup bitches"
 
ymmv said:
Boxofficemojo weekend estimates:

1 - Avatar - $75,000,000 (-2.6% down from last weekend :D )
2 - Sherlock Holmes - $65,380,000
3 - Alvin and the Chipmunks: The Squeakquel - $50,200,000


Domestic: $212,268,000 45.4%
+ Foreign: $255,686,953 54.6%
= Worldwide: $467,954,953

Heh, and just like Ghaleon said, that 255 mil. number is outdated by a few days I believe.

Edit: Ha, that's what I get for taking so long to write this. Updated numbers are incredible. :lol

On another topic, I yesterday mentioned Cinefex's Avatar article as being pretty awesome, when I had read about 10 pages (including ad pages). I still haven't read everything but I checked the article's lenght and it is FIFTY-TWO (52!!) pages of text with pics. Incredibly detailed. The article is phenomenal! I advise anyone who wants more info on how things were done and who did what, to spend $30 in a 4-issue digital subscription, as I did, and check it out.

Some tidbits that I recall, for example, Blur did the ISV and planets space shots, Framestore (UK shop) did interiors and some outside Hell's Gate stuff, like when Jake gets out of the Valkyrie shuttle or when Quaritch is talking to Jake while in the AMP suit ("your real legs" "yes sir!"), ILM did at least some stuff in the final battle, and probably others, since WETA just couldn't handle everything. The Dragon explosion is theirs (including, I believe, Quaritch escaping, my favorite action scene) and a lot of other scenes it seems. I gotta read back from the beginning and take notes lol.

I'm also including this pic I got from the article, not sure if it's at full res since I just took a screenshot and didn't try to rip the Flash. I think it's ok to post since it's from a "For Your Consideration" ad from Weta Digital for the Visual FX award (as if they haven't already won ha!). I really have to post it because...

fck0ew.jpg


... I mean... it's just... I don't even... wha...
 
TOTAL LIFETIME GROSSES
Domestic:  $212,268,000    34.5%
+ Foreign:  $402,900,000    65.5%
= Worldwide:  $615,168,000  



Oh, beaten
 
*Waits for January first*

Kind of an odd date to release a movie.. probably im going to watch it on a 2D theater.
 
TacticalFox88 said:
And what reason for that is?

Verhoeven's love of subversion in his sci-fi would be put to great use in a movie about people being infiltrated, observed and menaced by their mostly worthless purchases. Seems pretty obvious to me.
 
FirewalkR said:
Heh, and just like Ghaleon said, that 255 mil. number is outdated by a few days I believe.

Edit: Ha, that's what I get for taking so long to write this. Updated numbers are incredible. :lol

On another topic, I yesterday mentioned Cinefex's Avatar article as being pretty awesome, when I had read about 10 pages (including ad pages). I still haven't read everything but I checked the article's lenght and it is FIFTY-TWO (52!!) pages of text with pics. Incredibly detailed. The article is phenomenal! I advise anyone who wants more info on how things were done and who did what, to spend $30 in a 4-issue digital subscription, as I did, and check it out.

Some tidbits that I recall, for example, Blur did the ISV and planets space shots, Framestore (UK shop) did interiors and some outside Hell's Gate stuff, like when Jake gets out of the Valkyrie shuttle or when Quaritch is talking to Jake while in the AMP suit ("your real legs" "yes sir!"), ILM did at least some stuff in the final battle, and probably others, since WETA just couldn't handle everything. The Dragon explosion is theirs (including, I believe, Quaritch escaping, my favorite action scene) and a lot of other scenes it seems. I gotta read back from the beginning and take notes lol.

I'm also including this pic I got from the article, not sure if it's at full res since I just took a screenshot and didn't try to rip the Flash. I think it's ok to post since it's from a "For Your Consideration" ad from Weta Digital for the Visual FX award (as if they haven't already won ha!). I really have to post it because...

fck0ew.jpg


... I mean... it's just... I don't even... wha...

Man I can't wait for the Blu-ray, I'll be able to see the visuals in all their 2D glory. :P

I like this picture:

http://www.aceshowbiz.com/images/still/avatar113.jpg

It's huge btw. :P
 
Fersis said:
*Waits for January first*

Kind of an odd date to release a movie.. probably im going to watch it on a 2D theater.

Still haven't watched it? Do it in a 3D theatre unless you really can't.

Also remember to update Fersis Engine (TM) to produce these visuals. No. Excuses. ;)
 
ymmv said:
Unheard of. Most blockbusters drop 40-50% in the second week. It's even worse with sequels and genre movies. A 30% drop would have been very good for a SciFi movie like Avatar. -2.6% is incredible.

The interesting question is how much Avatar will make in 2009. It's the # 7 movie of the year at the moment. It will surpass Star Trek in a few days but there aren't enough days left this year for it to get in the top three. There's no doubt whatsoever that Avatar will make more than 300 million dollars. The only question is whether it will pass the 400 million dollar mark and surpass Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen as the overal US BO winner.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/weekends/smallestdrops.htm?page=DROP3000&p=.htm
 
jett said:
Man I can't wait for the Blu-ray, I'll be able to see the visuals in all their 2D glory. :P

I like this picture:

http://www.aceshowbiz.com/images/still/avatar113.jpg

It's huge btw. :P

Btw, they also mention Sigourney's Avatar face was the hardest to do because not only did they have to make it look like an 18 years younger Sigourney, but she had a "very narrow, patrician nose", and when they tried to use the wider Na'vi nose they'd lose the likeness.
 
FirewalkR said:
Btw, they also mention Sigourney's Avatar face was the hardest to do because not only did they have to make it look like an 18 years younger Sigourney, but she had a "very narrow, patrician nose", and when they tried to use the wider Na'vi nose they'd lose the likeness.
Oh, so that's why her nose is different than the other Na'vi, to retain her likeness. I suppose the most convenient explanation they could come up with in the films' mythos is that it's just a random genetic differential from being an Avatar.
 
Great box office. As someone who hated this movie, I'm still glad to see it do well, because it means people will take risks on more sci fi/fantasy big budget flicks and we might get some good ones as a result of bad ones like this making piles of money :)
 
elrechazao said:
Great box office. As someone who hated this movie, I'm still glad to see it do well, because it means people will take risks on more sci fi/fantasy big budget flicks and we might get some good ones as a result of bad ones like this making piles of money :)
Explain yourself NOW!
 
syllogism said:
Shrek no doubt sold more tickets though

Oh definitely. A lot of people are seeing Avatar in 3D and that adds to ticket costs, but it also proves the viability of the 3D movie beyond any doubt. It's raking in the money and it's probably doing so primarily through its 3D screens. Previous movies in 3D have been successful, but this is the first major movie that was built entirely for 3D (and has "must see it in 3D" hype surrounding it) and it's been an exceptional success.
 
I'm going to be seeing this in 3d for the second time in a few hours, my only worry is that our seats are very close to the screen, the fourth row.
 
OK, time to bet. How long till it breaks the 1 Bn. worldwide barrier? I'd say until the year ends but I'll play safe and go with "next weekend". :lol
 
FirewalkR said:
Heh, and just like Ghaleon said, that 255 mil. number is outdated by a few days I believe.

Edit: Ha, that's what I get for taking so long to write this. Updated numbers are incredible. :lol

On another topic, I yesterday mentioned Cinefex's Avatar article as being pretty awesome, when I had read about 10 pages (including ad pages). I still haven't read everything but I checked the article's lenght and it is FIFTY-TWO (52!!) pages of text with pics. Incredibly detailed. The article is phenomenal! I advise anyone who wants more info on how things were done and who did what, to spend $30 in a 4-issue digital subscription, as I did, and check it out.

Some tidbits that I recall, for example, Blur did the ISV and planets space shots, Framestore (UK shop) did interiors and some outside Hell's Gate stuff, like when Jake gets out of the Valkyrie shuttle or when Quaritch is talking to Jake while in the AMP suit ("your real legs" "yes sir!"), ILM did at least some stuff in the final battle, and probably others, since WETA just couldn't handle everything. The Dragon explosion is theirs (including, I believe, Quaritch escaping, my favorite action scene) and a lot of other scenes it seems. I gotta read back from the beginning and take notes lol.

I'm also including this pic I got from the article, not sure if it's at full res since I just took a screenshot and didn't try to rip the Flash. I think it's ok to post since it's from a "For Your Consideration" ad from Weta Digital for the Visual FX award (as if they haven't already won ha!). I really have to post it because...

fck0ew.jpg


... I mean... it's just... I don't even... wha...
Whoa, that pic was definitely not in the movie. Post battle epilogue?

Wonder who he is holding.
Tsu'tey?
:(
 
I think the trend here is, the dirtier the characters look, the more real they look. Not that I'm saying the one Jett posted doesn't look real, it does.. but it has this rendered quality about it. Where as the "For Your Consideration" one looks like it was actually shot.
 
TacticalFox88 said:
Explain yourself NOW!

My guess is that as a card carrying libertarian/republican he generally doesn't appreciate the whole nature message. Maybe even mistaking it for a nature vs technology film. (Or maybe that was another guy, I can't remember and can't be assed searching through pages and pages of this thread).
 
Is it mentioned in the literature what exactly about the Avatar program makes it so expensive?

The Na'vi/human genome splicing?

The amniotank growing process?

The training?

The brainwave-pod mind reading and transmitting thingy?
 
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