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U K Narayan said:
I think this can be attributed to the fact that the Avatars have a mix of both Human and Na'vi DNA.

That could be a reaching explanation though.
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I was thinking more along the lines of attention to detail. How he was "a baby" when he first started out, and when he matured, his body also transformed to match the training he endured. :)
 
Amazing interview w/ James Horner about how difficult it was for him to write the ALIENS score http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAciDfxBN7U and how big a cunt Gale Ann Hurd was at the time. The experience created a big rift between him, Cameron and Ann Hurd, only to be mended in 1997 when Cameron was set to make TITANIC and had Horner in mind after hearing his magnificent score from Braveheart.
 
Rentahamster said:
Is it mentioned in the literature what exactly about the Avatar program makes it so expensive?

The Na'vi/human genome splicing?

The amniotank growing process?

The training?

The brainwave-pod mind reading and transmitting thingy?
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Yeah pretty much all of that, probably.

Avatar size clothing ain't cheap, either.
 
ymmv said:
Boxofficemojo weekend estimates:

1 - Avatar - $75,000,000 (-2.6% down from last weekend :D )
2 - Sherlock Holmes - $65,380,000
3 - Alvin and the Chipmunks: The Squeakquel - $50,200,000


Domestic: $212,268,000 45.4%
+ Foreign: $255,686,953 54.6%
= Worldwide: $467,954,953

Avatar is second behind TDK in all time 2nd weekends:
http://boxofficemojo.com/alltime/weekends/moreweekends.htm?page=2&p=.htm
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with those Sherlock and Chipmunks numbers thrown in...this could be a record weekend for the industry, yeah? Gotta be close, at least.
 
Neuromancer said:
Yeah pretty much all of that, probably.

Avatar size clothing ain't cheap, either.
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Yeah, all of it would be expensive, but the point I'm trying to get at is this:

They experimented on humans first before they could develop the Navi portion of the avatar program. It would be safe to assume that creating and using a human avatar is much easier than doing the same with a Navi. (Although the Pandorapedia link for "amino tank" says that human cloning is rare).

I would think that using human avatars for dangerous missions is a pretty safe tactic and would be more commonplace. No need to actually put your real body in any danger. After all, in this movie, if you die in the Matrix you don't really die at all (as Norm found out).
 
Any good links to info on Battle Angel? Is it sci-fi? I hope not, I would LOVE to see Cameron use his 3D tech on something more rooted in reality.
 
Futureman said:
Any good links to info on Battle Angel? Is it sci-fi? I hope not, I would LOVE to see Cameron use his 3D tech on something more rooted in reality.
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Ah, you should have checked out Ghosts of the Abyss and Aliens of the Deep when you had the chance. They will probably get a home 3D release eventually.
 
DanielPlainview said:
my sister's friend who is massive New Moon fan just keeps talking about how awesome Avatar and has seen it 2x in 3D already.
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Avatar cleanses minds of the clutches of Twilight.

Cameron saves Cinema and Young Women.
 
The CG was amazing. Pandora was awesome to see and very breath taking. The visuals alone are worth seeing.

However I didn't like the second half as much. The preachy message, the fact that nobody else really seemed to mind blowing up the Hometree, the villain had no real motive, etc. Also did they ever explain why the metal/material was so valuable? Like what was it supposed to do?
 
Unbelievable second weekend. I expected just under 200 million and it shattered that. Doesn't New Years Weekend usually carry over well too? I know I Am Legend went in with a very small drop into new years.
 
AVATAR has already made $617.3m worldwide in just 10 days.

$617.3 MILLION in 10 DAYS.

Insane, how many people think it could actually topple Titanic now that Holmes has proven not to be a threat and there is only Book of Eli coming up to stand in its way. :D
 
Ceres said:
How everything works out to give as happy an ending as possible. Mostly because of the horrible ending Spielburg gave to AI.
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1) Spielberg did not conceive of that ending.

2) If you think it is a happy ending, you might be retarded.

EDIT- 2 is not necessarily directed at you, Ceres. Just a common stupid complaint I encounter.

DOUBLE EDIT - Oh, wait. You did say it was a happy ending. :lol
 
Hero said:
Also did they ever explain why the metal/material was so valuable? Like what was it supposed to do?
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Room temperature superconductor. A key component to cost-effective anti-matter energy usage. Interstellar space travel is unpossible without it.
 
DanielPlainview said:
AVATAR has already made $617.3m worldwide in just 10 days.

$617.3 MILLION in 10 DAYS.

Insane, how many people think it could actually topple Titanic now that Holmes has proven not to be a threat and there is only Book of Eli coming up to stand in its way. :D
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GAF will be torn by this. :lol

Also. A.I ending made me sad for the remaining of the entire day I watched it.
 
DanielPlainview said:
AVATAR has already made $617.3m worldwide in just 10 days.

$617.3 MILLION in 10 DAYS.

Insane, how many people think it could actually topple Titanic now that Holmes has proven not to be a threat and there is only Book of Eli coming up to stand in its way. :D
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Next 2 weekends are huge to see what happens with the legs.
 
Jibril said:
He was CGI in some parts :lol
edit: yep.
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DanielPlainview said:
AVATAR has already made $617.3m worldwide in just 10 days.

$617.3 MILLION in 10 DAYS.

Insane, how many people think it could actually topple Titanic now that Holmes has proven not to be a threat and there is only Book of Eli coming up to stand in its way. :D
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Never going to happen, maybe in like 10 more years or something. I'm going to see it 2 more times in the next 3 days, I really hope the 3rd week has no lower than a 3o% drop!
I'm guessing it will do 1.1max
 
Four posts in a row? Fucking hell man, you're wild.

Avatar isn't going to take over Titanic, as much as I'd love to see that happen.
 
neoism said:
Never going to happen, maybe in like 10 more years or something. I'm going to see it 2 more times in the next 3 days, I really hope the 3rd week has no lower than a 3o% drop!
I'm guessing it will do 1.1max
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I think it's totally possible. Titanic took 10 months to hit 1.8 billion. Avatar's hit 1/3 of that in just 10 days.
 
Count Dookkake said:
1) Spielberg did not conceive of that ending.

2) If you think it is a happy ending, you might be retarded.

EDIT- 2 is not necessarily directed at you, Ceres. Just a common stupid complaint I encounter.

DOUBLE EDIT - Oh, wait. You did say it was a happy ending. :lol
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i don't think the ending in AI is really a happy ending, but it i think it is much happier than if it had ended with him underwater staring at the blue fairy for all of eternity. there is some happiness in being able to spend one last day with his mom.
 
Zophar said:
I think it's totally possible. Titanic took 10 months to hit 1.8 billion. Avatar's hit 1/3 of that in just 10 days.
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Yeah, I don't see how people can write off the possibility so easily, but it seems like they are the same people that thought Avatar wouldn't succeed period. Titanic only made around 30 mil each weekend, what do you think ppl were saying back then? With the Bluray rls rumored for April that would be a huge factor in cutting off its returns though.
 
bggrthnjsus said:
i don't think the ending in AI is really a happy ending, but it i think it is much happier than if it had ended with him underwater staring at the blue fairy for all of eternity. there is some happiness in being able to spend one last day with his mom.
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That would be a very dumb ending as the film would skip over entirely the fate of AIs and humans.
 
stuburns said:
Four posts in a row? Fucking hell man, you're wild.

Avatar isn't going to take over Titanic, as much as I'd love to see that happen.
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:lol :lol thanks man! I took one of my vacations for Christmas!

Not much to do!
I wish I had someone to drive me to the theater, I'd love to experience it in 3D toked up, but there's no way I'm driven. I'm actually surprised I didn't get a headache when I watched it yesterday. Some people I hear get them from 3D movies, my eyes just got a little strained!
 
Count Dookkake said:
That would be a very dumb ending as the film would skip over entirely the fate of AIs and humans.
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yeah but i (and i think most of the people who wished it would've ended there) don't feel that the movie even needed to discuss the fate of ai and humanity, it was really about a child's love for his mother, which just happened to be complicated by the fact that he wasn't real.
 
DanielPlainview said:
Yeah, I don't see how people can write off the possibility so easily, but it seems like they are the same people that thought Avatar wouldn't succeed period. Titanic only made around 30 mil each weekend, what do you think ppl were saying back then? With the Bluray rls rumored for April that would be a huge factor in cutting off its returns.
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I don't think it'll make 1.8 B, and I certainly never said it was going to fail/or be poor.

You can't really judge the final BO number based on the numbers so far because it doesn't show the amount of people who want to see the film, only the priority it's taken for the people who did want to see it.

Nothing has even come near to Titanic, not even close, and Avatar doesn't appear to be the kind of film that has that sort of universal appeal.

We shall see.
 
bggrthnjsus said:
yeah but i (and i think most of the people who wished it would've ended there) don't feel that the movie even needed to discuss the fate of ai and humanity, it was really about a child's love for his mother, which just happened to be complicated by the fact that he wasn't real.
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The movie is called AI for a reason.

At least reassure me that you weren't one of the morons who thought the movie ended with aliens showing up.
 
The only things that Speilberg screwed up in AI was

1) Chris Rock
2) Teddy... although I didn't completely hate Teddy.
 
Ceres said:
How everything works out to give as happy an ending as possible. Mostly because of the horrible ending Spielburg gave to AI.
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:lol Joke post its got to be. Either that or you decided to use your 10 min break from the psyche ward to hop onto this forum.
 
jett said:
I was hoping you would say that.

Watch and learn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rz7sPiOoU7A

also I like how the death of the main character and his mother and pretty much the death of all humanity qualifies as a "as happy an ending" in your book.
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Well then whichever of my friends told me the original planned ending was wrong and I should have checked into it myself. And yes, having been told the film was supposed to end 20 minutes earlier, the actual ending is "happier."
Oh well. I still didn't like the ending Avatar was given.
 
Off-Topic but what the hell is this from:

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Count Dookkake said:
Humanity's mechanical offspring digging through the tomb that is Earth.

Yeah, really happy ending.
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:lol Count I was so happy to see that your ban was a very temporary loss for these boards.
 
Dabookerman said:
Yes. But close up CG or just CG dummies, which are used in many movies?
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Either way, they'd have done modeling like that; the point being, that isn't just concept art. It's an early render of Quaritch, which was later used in the film.

(The shots were medium distance.)
 
stuburns said:
I don't think it'll make 1.8 B, and I certainly never said it was going to fail/or be poor.

You can't really judge the final BO number based on the numbers so far because it doesn't show the amount of people who want to see the film, only the priority it's taken for the people who did want to see it.

Nothing has even come near to Titanic, not even close, and Avatar doesn't appear to be the kind of film that has that sort of universal appeal.

We shall see.
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Sort of agree, but one thing Avatar does have over every other movie the last 10 years including Titanic is the 3D tech being employed which is drawing thousands to these expensive theaters. And it's making the same waves overseas.

But ultimately I agree it will fall short of the Titanic. #2 ain't bad.
 
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