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Rottenwatch: AVATAR (82%)
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PhoncipleBone said:
Unless there´s a "Best movie going experience" Award this year, Avatar should get best picture, IMO.
I saw it in 2d first and I still can´t think of feeling the same way watching a movie before. It took me for a ride and never slowed down. Childlike wonder.
Is it me or is Wainfleet giving the tanned mercenary a "I want to sex you up" look during Quaritch´s troop rallying speech? The dude´s a total riot :lol
PhoncipleBone said:
Holy fucking shit!
TacticalFox88
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Sorry.duckroll said:I'm sorry guys, I locked the crow eating thread because it's..... really badly done. It had a terribly uninformative OP, just a bunch of random quotes, and didn't really connect to anything at all. No RT rating, no boxoffice numbers, nothing. Really disappointing job, I can't believe it was supposed to have been "in the works" for some time. It just ended up looking childish and dumb.
It was my first one. Basically did it on my own. *sigh*.elrechazado
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I haven't seen a more nutso group than avatar fans honestly. Well, maybe titanic fans and twilight fans. All three are very similar though.Solo said:
Let's have a decent thread when Avatar beats Titanic. That should give the OP plenty of time to actually make a good thread.duckroll said:I'm sorry guys, I locked the crow eating thread because it's..... really badly done. It had a terribly uninformative OP, just a bunch of random quotes, and didn't really connect to anything at all. No RT rating, no boxoffice numbers, nothing. Really disappointing job, I can't believe it was supposed to have been "in the works" for some time. It just ended up looking childish and dumb.
I think the right place for that kind of thing is when Titanic becomes the #1 movie of all time and there's a thread about that. No need to force it or even call it a crow thread. Crow threads are always better when they emerge from the news.duckroll said:I'm sorry guys, I locked the crow eating thread because it's..... really badly done. It had a terribly uninformative OP, just a bunch of random quotes, and didn't really connect to anything at all. No RT rating, no boxoffice numbers, nothing. Really disappointing job, I can't believe it was supposed to have been "in the works" for some time. It just ended up looking childish and dumb.
Hell, the weekly box office threads are just that.
elrechazado
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I'm thinking more of the hive mentality, the obsession with the numbers, the attacks on anyone who doesn't care for the movie, the attempts to read deep meaning into a movie on par with pocahontas and fern gully, and lol worthy oscar talk, and so on. And no, not talking only about gaf so a preemptive "settle down" if that gets your goat. Also, TDK is overrated.Solo said:
TacticalFox88 said:Sorry.
I think what you need to do is to take more feedback from what people want the thread to be. If it's just a bunch of quotes which only have meaning to people like us who have been following Avatar threads for a year, then it really doesn't deserve to be a thread at all.
On the other hand, the idea of an actual crow eating thread is appealing if there was actual correlation between what people predicted previously or declared to be a foregone conclusion, only be to owned by the facts now.
A good example would be for example to have different sections of crow eating. There are of course the people who believed that mainstream audiences and critics would NOT like the movie. The premise seemed dumb and it looked to be something which people would not be interested in. The RT score would clearly indicate that critics did end up liking it, and that would be one sort of ownage. The other is of course the box office takings, where there is a TON of crow being served.
All this has to be presented in a way that is easily understandable for people who have never read a box office or Avatar thread, and having references to previous threads would make it more entertaining for people who want to go back and see what the reactions and vibe was over the last 1-2 years.
Just some suggestions...
PhoncipleBone
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Perhaps as the theatrical run is winding down. We will have close to final numbers. There is a good way to make it work, but it is a lot of work.
Compile the quotes like before, but focus mainly on ones about its financial prospects, not its critical prospects. It is easier to make people eat crow on hard numbers other than opinions. Show a quote or group of quotes from people, then follow it with a picture or chart showing the actual box office stats.
For the critical response, show those who were hating on it then turned to loving it in the end. That section should be more of a show of how the quality of the film turned people around. Showing quotes from people that hated it before and still hate it accomplishes nothing.
EDIT: Damn, duckroll typed faster than me.
Compile the quotes like before, but focus mainly on ones about its financial prospects, not its critical prospects. It is easier to make people eat crow on hard numbers other than opinions. Show a quote or group of quotes from people, then follow it with a picture or chart showing the actual box office stats.
For the critical response, show those who were hating on it then turned to loving it in the end. That section should be more of a show of how the quality of the film turned people around. Showing quotes from people that hated it before and still hate it accomplishes nothing.
EDIT: Damn, duckroll typed faster than me.
TacticalFox88
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Thanks Duck. Will keep that in mind.duckroll said:
elrechazado
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lolworthy refers to the merit of any best picture award, not the existence thereof. If it does win, it will be number one on the top "should have never won" lists of all time 20 years from now. When my kids look back at it they'll wonder why something that looks as bad to them as clash of the titans looks to us now was so rewarded critically, and they'll only be left with the story and wonder wtf our generation was thinking.gdt5016 said:
elrechazao said:lolworthy refers to the merit of any best picture award, not the existence thereof. If it does win, it will be number one on the top "should have never won" lists of all time 20 years from now. When my kids look back at it they'll wonder why something that looks as bad to them as clash of the titans looks to us now was so rewarded critically, and they'll only be left with the story and wonder wtf our generation was thinking.
This is an excellent point. The movie's main achievements are in VFX, not acting and certainly not writing. So it's epic today, but the Harryhausen effect will be visible in the future.
elrechazado
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I agree, and I'm not saying it shouldn't win oscars. It should sweep nearly every technical category.OuterWorldVoice said:
PhoncipleBone
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OuterWorldVoice said:
Nobody fucks with The Jesus!
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reilo said:
Transformers 2 made me hate all previous Michael Bay films. That's not an exaggeration. I tried rewatching Armageddon, Bad Boys 2, and Transformers 1 after seeing Revenge of the Fallen. Now all his filmmaking "techniques" just annoy the fuck out of me since they were so exploited in Revenge of the Fallen. Fuck him, fuck him, fuck him.
Epic Tier 3 Engineer
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So I heard about the sex scene that they cut from the movie and will add to the extended cut.
For all that is holy, please leave that out of an excellent movie. Some things should be left up to the imagination. Other things, like lizard people sex, should be left to the imagine of extra special people on the internet.
For all that is holy, please leave that out of an excellent movie. Some things should be left up to the imagination. Other things, like lizard people sex, should be left to the imagine of extra special people on the internet.
Epic Tier 3 Engineer
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I'd love to see them attempt to portray that tastefully.FirewalkR said:
Meaning, it's not possible. Everyone was thinking that during the movie, and I'm sure that those who were enjoying the movie up until that point really, really didn't want to have to laugh during an emotional scene. :lol
bah, my friends suck. i want to watch it for a 3rd time but no one wants to join me. either someone has no money or they just don't want to watch it. and they other guys who came with me in the first two times are not into this "watching a movie multiple times" thing
on the other hand i'm going to watch inglorious basterds for the 3rd times this week because our university is showing it for 2,50. Of course finding people wasn't a problem in this case.
Argh.
on the other hand i'm going to watch inglorious basterds for the 3rd times this week because our university is showing it for 2,50. Of course finding people wasn't a problem in this case.
Argh.
PhoncipleBone
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Blablurn said:bah, my friends suck. i want to watch it for a 3rd time but no one wants to join me. either someone has no money or they just don't want to watch it. and they other guys who came with me in the first two times are not into this "watching a movie multiple times" thing
on the other hand i'm going to watch inglorious basterds for the 3rd times this week because our university is showing it for 2,50. Of course finding people wasn't a problem in this case.
Argh.
It is because it is cool to like Tarantino.
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You fucked up the crow eating thread?
Aw man!
Aw man!
SCULLIBUNDO
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That was one terrible crow eating thread. Also because most of the quotes all came from one thread and there was no setup and execution of each individual crow feast.
Why do they suck? If I had a friend who wanted to spend 30-40$ to see the same movie 3 times in a row. I think it would be the other way around. :lolBlablurn said:bah, my friends suck. i want to watch it for a 3rd time but no one wants to join me. either someone has no money or they just don't want to watch it. and they other guys who came with me in the first two times are not into this "watching a movie multiple times" thing
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Blablurn said:bah, my friends suck. i want to watch it for a 3rd time but no one wants to join me. either someone has no money or they just don't want to watch it. and they other guys who came with me in the first two times are not into this "watching a movie multiple times" thing
on the other hand i'm going to watch inglorious basterds for the 3rd times this week because our university is showing it for 2,50. Of course finding people wasn't a problem in this case.
Argh.
As much as I loved the movie, have no desire to see it again any time soon, rarely have I ever seen a movie more than once in a theater. Shits too expensive and takes a good chunk of time, that I rather just wait till the home version comes out.
Just saw it for the second time! So awesome.
Hadn't been to the other imax in the area and apparently it's only one of two in the country with tempurpedic seats
(tempurpedic foam and special "buttkicker" bass in every seat.. that's what they called it. I really felt the explosions and
under my butt!)
Hadn't been to the other imax in the area and apparently it's only one of two in the country with tempurpedic seats
(tempurpedic foam and special "buttkicker" bass in every seat.. that's what they called it. I really felt the explosions and
hometree falling
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That sounds like too much bass!
I saw it in normal IMAX and it was already shaking my teeth.
I saw it in normal IMAX and it was already shaking my teeth.
saw it, loved it. predictable, but extremely well done with a beautiful world. also, my first 3d movie going experience and i cant imagine going back to standard films. it really felt much more immersive (after the first 10 min or so) and, i know this sounds funny, but things looked more "realistic" as well. i guess the sense of depth added a quality to the visuals that had always been lacking before, but i never looked at an actor in a movie before, and really felt i had seen them in person until avatar and sigorny weaver's first scene (i assume because she is a well known actress to me, thats what stood out most)
The Librarian
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Hey you guys, what ever happened to the REAL Avatar movie (as some GAFfers were calling it)? You know the one I'm talking about. The one about the lawlbender.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Dunno if its been mentioned yet, but AVATAR actually broke the record for highest opening weekend in China, selling 40.2m worth of tickets.
Something I'd like to get some thoughts on is whether or not people think the sequel should have a new composer. If it were any other new Cameron movie I would say yes, but the fact is that when films in a series switch composers, you definitely feel like a sense of continuity with that film world is lost. Off the top of my head I'm thinking of Terminator with the loss of Fiedel, Spider-Man with the loss of Elfman etc. I think a part of me would prefer to keep the continuity of the score and pray for something fresh in the vein of AVATAR.
I can't stop listening to Jablonsky's track from The Island (also in the AVTR trailer obviously) and wishing somebody else had scored AVATAR, despite there being many good tracks. I'm just so mad at Horner for not stepping it up and recycling the same music for a film that is so special and that he had so much time to work on. He is the definition of playing it safe.
Something I'd like to get some thoughts on is whether or not people think the sequel should have a new composer. If it were any other new Cameron movie I would say yes, but the fact is that when films in a series switch composers, you definitely feel like a sense of continuity with that film world is lost. Off the top of my head I'm thinking of Terminator with the loss of Fiedel, Spider-Man with the loss of Elfman etc. I think a part of me would prefer to keep the continuity of the score and pray for something fresh in the vein of AVATAR.
I can't stop listening to Jablonsky's track from The Island (also in the AVTR trailer obviously) and wishing somebody else had scored AVATAR, despite there being many good tracks. I'm just so mad at Horner for not stepping it up and recycling the same music for a film that is so special and that he had so much time to work on. He is the definition of playing it safe.
SCULLIBUNDO
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chubigans said:
He would indeed be awesome, but there are better choices for AVATAR.
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