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Rottenwatch: AVATAR (82%)

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Spike Spiegel said:
Because, while being the best looking meal ever put onto a plate, the actual food tasted bland and unsatisfying?
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Sounds more like he's saying it was the best tasting meal he's ever had, but it left him feeling unsatisfied.

It's lunchtime. Imma gonna heat up some pizza.
 
Spike Spiegel said:
Because, while being the best looking meal ever put onto a plate, the actual food tasted bland and unsatisfying?
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Eh.

Still reads odd to me- to write it off FOREVER based on that review.

But that's his own singular opinion.
 
While #1 alltime WW has been a lock for weeks, Im finally convinced that #1 domestic is now a lock too. Goddamn, Cameron, you magnificent bastard.
 
ryutaro's mama said:
You review is all over the road.

You herald it as the greatest looking film you've ever seen and how it has revolutionized the medium and yet you NEVER want to see it again.

This makes zero logical sense.

Please, explain to me how in your mind this makes sense.
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How amazing it looked and how awesome this 3D is < how boring and average the film itself is.

I mean, it's f'n 3 hours long! No thanks.
 
LevelNth said:
How amazing it looked and how awesome this 3D is < how boring and average the film itself is.

I mean, it's f'n 3 hours long! No thanks.
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Well, according to your review, you did find the the first half (the slower, more expository stuff) to be better than that "boring, high action second half so, I don't know what to say to you.

And I know, 3 hours! How awful is that?

Disney did it right.

70 minute movies FTW.
 
Avatar's script in original form leaked

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:lol

I love the movie but seriously...wtf
 
I love that golden globes threads, haters bitching and moaning and pretty much pissing their pants.

Raistlin said:
that was one of the dumber things I've read recently
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If you think that was serious I think you're the dumb one my friend.
 
When it comes down to it, Avatar amazed me the most at the movies, seeing it in IMAX 3d. Watching at home, i think maybe a couple of the other nominated films might have had a bigger impact, but im glad Avatar won. I would have been glad if Inglorious Basters won too.
 
I saw this film and loved it. It's hard to deny the philosophical similarities between this and other films that represent white paternalism, but still, great film. There were only a few moments throughout that I thought Cameron was doing something just because, and the film would have run at a better clip but missed some of the ambiance if he did.

Overall, I'm very pleased. It's a technical achievement of the highest order, if not the greatest story ever told. But it was still a good story with mostly believable characters. Probably the best film of the year, including District 9 and 500 Days of Summer. I still need to see Up in the Air before the Oscars go.

Does anybody have any quality links to a non-gushing film criticism review? I read Ebert's but that didn't leave me satisfied in the same way his review of District 9 did (which was brilliant). Any help appreciated.
 
Scullibundo said:
I love that Arnold is always sitting right by Cameron. Arnold was actually looking great, not ArnOLD for once.
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maybe he got some work done? after all he is going back into acting once his term is done.
 
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3id3e0b71b5f1a6df40dc998544184f47e

Quote from the link..

"In its fifth round overseas, "Avatar" remained dominant just about everywhere, dropping a relatively benign 17% from the prior weekend's foreign tally. A record Italy opening generated $14.5 million from 925 locations. China weighed in with an $18.9 million weekend from 2,509 screens for an industry record market cume of $76.6 million rolled up in just 13 days.

The biggest market cumes have been registered in France ($113.9 million), Russia ($88.4 million), Germany ($85.6 million) and the U.K. ($80.5 million). Boxoffice from 81 Imax screens was $4.6 million, pushing the foreign take from Imax locations, the company says, to $39.4 million."

Jesus Christ at this movie...I mean I know its huge, but this is just crazy.
 
Meus Renaissance said:
Avatar's script in original form leaked

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v94/SoulChimera/original.jpg[IMG]

:lol

I love the movie but seriously...wtf[/QUOTE]

Wow, that's awesome.

And kinda sad.
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Avatar's numbers are sick.

Between the best picture/best director wins and hitting box office numbers only he alone set the bar to over a decade ago, James Cameron is truly king of the world.
 
I saw it over the weekend, and it was my first 3D movie (reald 3d at a regular cinema place). I enjoyed it for sure - my brother, whom I saw it with, was kinda shaking his head during it, saying it was really hamfisted, so that may have skewed some of my impression of the movie. Anyway, I want to see it again. The world was breathtaking. The plot and all I'll hold off from commenting until I see again.

About the 3D, I wore the 3D glasses overtop of my correction glasses. It took me a while to get used to the effects. I'm not sure if this is how it is or if it was just a matter of getting used to things being in / out of focus in another dimension, but it seemed like it was a lot blurrier than I expected. I think got better as I got used to it later on. The beginning, when the guy's floating around outside his pod, didn't seem like I could focus on things all that clearly and the scene as a whole seemed a bit off. Quick cuts (like chase scenes) were also kind of hard for me to make out the details in. Things that were way in the foreground always seemed blurry. Regardless, the 3D gives everything a much more realistic feeling that what I saw later on at home via trailers / featurettes, even though they were much sharper looking.

Anyway, I wonder, is this inherent in 3D movies to this date or could me having my glasses underneath the 3D ones have contributed to this? I don't have any contacts left, unfortunately, to see the movie with, but I wonder if that would help. Does anyone with glasses want to share their opinion?
 
Kurashima said:
About the 3D, I wore the 3D glasses overtop of my correction glasses. It took me a while to get used to the effects. I'm not sure if this is how it is or if it was just a matter of getting used to things being in / out of focus in another dimension, but it seemed like it was a lot blurrier than I expected. I think got better as I got used to it later on. The beginning, when the guy's floating around outside his pod, didn't seem like I could focus on things all that clearly and the scene as a whole seemed a bit off. Quick cuts (like chase scenes) were also kind of hard for me to make out the details in. Things that were way in the foreground always seemed blurry. Regardless, the 3D gives everything a much more realistic feeling that what I saw later on at home via trailers / featurettes, even though they were much sharper looking.

Anyway, I wonder, is this inherent in 3D movies to this date or could me having my glasses underneath the 3D ones have contributed to this? I don't have any contacts left, unfortunately, to see the movie with, but I wonder if that would help. Does anyone with glasses want to share their opinion?
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I don't think your glasses had anything to do with that. Cameron made the decision to have only the focal point is in focus. When he's editing, he decides where he wants the viewer to look, and he makes that area in the sharpest focus. He said something about how this is the only way to make 3D look natural, and that everyone else in the past has been doing it wrong.
 
Are there any numbers of how many tickets the movie actually sold? Considering ever rising ticket costs these numbers mean a lot less than one would think. I cannot actually imagine that so many more people saw this action movie.
 
ArachosiA 78 said:
I don't think your glasses had anything to do with that. Cameron made the decision to have only the focal point is in focus. When he's editing, he decides where he wants the viewer to look, and he makes that area in the sharpest focus. He said something about how this is the only way to make 3D look natural, and that everyone else in the past has been doing it wrong.
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That seems to make sense, I think, thanks. In this case, it's just a matter of getting used to being told where your focus is when your natural inclination in a three-dimensional setting is that you can control what you're focusing on, which I thought might be the case. I know that I would obsess over the possibility of not getting the "full-experience" if I didn't know the answer to my question though!
 
ArachosiA 78 said:
I don't think your glasses had anything to do with that. Cameron made the decision to have only the focal point is in focus. When he's editing, he decides where he wants the viewer to look, and he makes that area in the sharpest focus. He said something about how this is the only way to make 3D look natural, and that everyone else in the past has been doing it wrong.
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Ugh. Are you sure he said that? That's really disappointing. There are a lot of ways to draw a viewer's eyes to a part of a scene, but this method is pure brute force as far as I'm concerned. It's distracting, it's physically uncomfortable, and it is not natural. As far as I can tell, it's literally punishment.

It's something they do in 2d films (as well as still photography) because your eyes accept that they are looking at a plane and so keep the same focal length even when faced with something blurry.
 
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