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[PhoncipleBone]

Yeah, let's all leave a sticky mess on the floor intentionally. I'm glad you aren't twisting what I'm saying.

Leaving a mess could include a spilled soda, thus resulting in a sticky floor. That was what I was referring to of leaving a mess.

 

[Gui_PT]

Couldn't find one that only had him smiling

 

[Blablurn]

Post Awards Q&A with Cameron and co.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7CPxb8zFkM&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6BO2bpEVk8&feature=player_embedded

(some overlap in between the two)

i like how they ask the media to help them educating the new methods they used. great Q&A session!

 

[GhaleonEB]

Have you ever been to a sporting event? Theater seating signifies that you have a free pass to litter guilt-free as long as it's not more than what you'd normally consume. You pay a fuck-load of a premium at the concession stand for a reason.

True, but having people on hand to pick up after isn't really one of them.

It takes minimal effort to carry your popcorn bucket and/or cup to the trash can; in my theater the attendants wheel one over to the end of the isles when the credits roll to make it even easier. Myself, I pick up some of the trash left by lazy littering people, in addition to tossing my own. Because I don't care if people are there to clean up after, I think it's simply a decent thing to do and it takes not one iota of effort.

 

[HomerSimpson-Man]

True, but having people on hand to pick up after isn't really one of them.

It takes minimal effort to carry your popcorn bucket and/or cup to the trash can; in my theater the attendants wheel one over to the end of the isles when the credits roll to make it even easier. Myself, I pick up some of the trash left by lazy littering people, in addition to tossing my own. Because I don't care if people are there to clean up after, I think it's simply a decent thing to do and it takes not one iota of effort.

Yeah, I actually make an effort to pick up after myself in theaters and toss it in the trash bin.

 

[PhoncipleBone]

True, but having people on hand to pick up after isn't really one of them.

It takes minimal effort to carry your popcorn bucket and/or cup to the trash can; in my theater the attendants wheel one over to the end of the isles when the credits roll to make it even easier. Myself, I pick up some of the trash left by lazy littering people, in addition to tossing my own. Because I don't care if people are there to clean up after, I think it's simply a decent thing to do and it takes not one iota of effort.

Yeah, I actually make an effort to pick up after myself in theaters and toss it in the trash bin.

Can we be friends?

 

[Black-Wind]

Do you also piss on the toilet seats in public restrooms instead of lifting the lid since janitors go in there?

No, thats nasty and I wouldn't want to walk in my (or anyone's) piss. 0_o

Do you just leave groceries you decided not to buy on a random shelf since others work there?

Hell the fuck yeah. Im in and out, don't have the time to go around putting stuff back half way across the store. And again, people get paid to stack things back the way they should.

Do you also leave all your trash on fast food tables for others to clean up even though they give you a trash can to put it in yourself?

Nope, but I wouldn't feel bad about leaving drops of food/ drink there if they fell on the table in my eating time.

Whatever happened to making people's lives easier by actually taking some personal responsibility for yourself and cleaning up your own mess? I take it you have never worked a job where you interact with the public. If you have worked one then you know one of the BIGGEST pet peeves of employees is cleaning up messes that lazy and inconsiderate customers leave behind.

Seriously. WTF?

Yep, never worked with the public a day in my life. Only done YMCA summer child care programs . . . and art programs.

But you know what? I don't give 2 flying fucks how they feel about cleaning up. Its in their fucking job . . . they don't want to do it then they should find a different job. It's like waiters bitching about getting shitty tips . . . want more money then find a job where your not paid by the kindness of strangers.

You take a shit job, you have to do w/e is in that shit job. Be it cleaning the shit smeared walls of a public rest-room or picking up litter in the movies.

These people cleaning up after themselves in the movies or w/e wouldn't make our world any "cleaner" if the movie theater just throws the stuff into a land full and doesn't recycle . . . so maybe thats what we should be worried about?:lol

 

[PhoncipleBone]

But you know what? I don't give 2 flying fucks how they feel about cleaning up. Its in their fucking job . . . they don't want to do it then they should find a different job. It's like waiters bitching about getting shitty tips . . . want more money then find a job where your not paid by the kindness of strangers.

You take a shit job, you have to do w/e is in that shit job. Be it cleaning the shit smeared walls of a public rest-room or picking up litter in the movies. [/B]

And this is a textbook example of what is wrong with most of society. A supreme sense of self importance and lack of respect and responsibility. I guess this is the future of the world, and it frightens me that people have little to no respect for others.

So tell me, what is your job? And let me guess, it is something better than most of us which places you higher up the food chain? Since there are so many people trying to make an honest living with whatever they can get, but self important (fill in your own expletive here) come along and make it harder on others instead of helping them out just to feel a small sense of superiority is the standard? Ugh. Remind me to stop by your place and vomit on your floor then leave.

 

[Evlar]

Umm.

 

[PhoncipleBone]

Umm.

So back on topic, how many more days do you think until Avatar breaks Dark Knight's domestic record? Saturday?

 

[GhaleonEB]

So back on topic, how many more days do you think until Avatar breaks Dark Knight's domestic record? Saturday?

Saturday or Sunday, latest. TDK made just $16.2m from Tuesday-Sunday this week in its run, and Avatar is $28.3m from topping its total gross.

So Avatar needs to make $44.5m through Sunday to beat TDK by then. Shouldn't have any trouble with that.

 

[PhoncipleBone]

Saturday or Sunday, latest. TDK made just $16.2m from Tuesday-Sunday this week in its run, and Avatar is $28.3m from topping its total gross.

So Avatar needs to make $44.5m through Sunday to beat TDK by then. Shouldn't have any trouble with that.

Agreed. Then I think it will be two more weeks until Titanic is gone, and then it just becomes a show of watching how high the numbers can climb.

 

[GhaleonEB]

Agreed. Then I think it will be two more weeks until Titanic is gone, and then it just becomes a show of watching how high the numbers can climb.

It still feels kind of surreal to be having this conversation. A month ago, the subject was the topic of jokes. A couple weeks ago, a lot of people were doubting it would top Titanic. Now we're talking about how much it will make after it blows past Titanic.

I mean, on the world-wide records, Avatar has already put half billion dollars between it and the previous number two movie. 0_o

 

[gdt]

It still feels kind of surreal to be having this conversation. A month ago, the subject was the topic of jokes. A couple weeks ago, a lot of people were doubting it would top Titanic. Now we're talking about how much it will make after it blows past Titanic.

I mean, on the world-wide records, Avatar has already put half billion dollars between it and the previous number two movie. 0_o

:O

You remind me, time to go digging through all the BO threads since Avatar's release.

 

[PhoncipleBone]

It still feels kind of surreal to be having this conversation. A month ago, the subject was the topic of jokes. A couple weeks ago, a lot of people were doubting it would top Titanic. Now we're talking about how much it will make after it blows past Titanic.

I mean, on the world-wide records, Avatar has already put half billion dollars between it and the previous number two movie. 0_o

I know. It is kinda of crazy. I do hope that whomever is putting together the crow thread also makes a section for the people that made all these crazy predictions like $700 million domestic and whatnot and gives them some recognition. I thought the movie would be huge, but the notion of it toppling Titanic were not in my mind. I even laughed at the thought of it toppling it, much less the legs it has shown.

It is nice to be wrong on this.

 

[How About No]

Hell the fuck yeah. Im in and out, don't have the time to go around putting stuff back half way across the store. And again, people get paid to stack things back the way they should.

So that was YOU!

Wait this is the Avatar thread?!

 

[gdt]

OMG, BO thread from opening weekend.

It's awesome :lol . Seems so far away at this point.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=382779

 

[gdt]

Not to pick on anyone, but this looks so weird now :lol .

It's not bad, but it's hardly a slam dunk. We'll no more next week when we see if it holds. I'm still betting on a $220mil domestic take.

 

[GhaleonEB]

OMG, BO thread from opening weekend.

It's awesome :lol . Seems so far away at this point.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=382779

The critically acclaimed "Avatar" posted glowing exits, earning an A or A+ CinemaScore across all demos.

More than the box office, that's the figure I was really waiting for. Word of mouth is off the charts, both in the US and abroad. Very good debut, but it's going to have very solid legs.

(Titanic also scored an A+ from Cinemascore; Cameron knows how to make an entertaining movie.)

Deserves every penny it makes and then some.

*flexes*

I was even more correct than I thought I was about the word of mouth and legs; on opening weekend I was making a Titanic comparison. :lol

 

[CassidyIzABeast]

Avatar only 73M?

that looks like a la bomba doesn't it?

there's no way it's gonna cover its 300M budget, and that's without marketing budget

I love it

 

[gdt]

Im calling a 30% drop from opening to second weekend, which is fucking fanstastic for a blockbuster event movie.

This is what we all thought :lol .

It ended up being 1.6% :lol .

 

[GhaleonEB]

This is what we all thought :lol .

It ended up being 1.6% :lol .

And you're there on the front page, warning people not to bet against Cameron. :lol

I think I did a pretty good job reading the tea leaves as well:

Avatar" dropped a mere 3% from Saturday to Sunday, a rare feat

Rare? That shit just doesn't happen. Like, almost ever. Legs are going to be monstrous.

 

[Black-Wind]

And this is a textbook example of what is wrong with most of society. A supreme sense of self importance and lack of respect and responsibility. I guess this is the future of the world, and it frightens me that people have little to no respect for others.

"A supreme sense of self importance and lack of respect"? Where the hell are you getting this from? 0_o

I don't treat anyone like shit based on their job, I clean up my own litter and I don't leave a mess in the movies (cause I don't buy over priced movie food :lol ). I was simply explaining why others arnt in the wrong when they DO leave a mess for people who get paid to clean up after them.

So tell me, what is your job? And let me guess, it is something better than most of us which places you higher up the food chain? Since there are so many people trying to make an honest living with whatever they can get, but self important (fill in your own expletive here) come along and make it harder on others instead of helping them out just to feel a small sense of superiority is the standard? Ugh. Remind me to stop by your place and vomit on your floor then leave.

I'm a unemployed college guy who wouldn't mind working at a fast food place to bring in money so that I could actually spend some of the few dollars I have been holding on to but I barely have the time for school so thats not gonna happen. Those 2 jobs I listed are the extent of my job history at this point.

I simply know that when you sign up for a job you have to do whats apart of said job so it shouldn't come as any shock that people expect you to do your job. Said movie cleaning person shouldn't expect people to make their job easier for them and as such shouldn't have a "pet peeve" about it when they walk in and see messy shit all over the place.

But that goes for any job . . . you shouldn't expect people to make your job easier, you should be happy when it happens but not pissed to find that someone actually left you something to do. Like I said, that goes for any job. I didn't expect those lil kids to make MY job at the YMCA (taking care of a group of lil kids) easier . . . they sure could have but I was being paid to do all the things enlisted in my job so I had no right to expect them to.

Oh, and you can expect to clean up your vomit if you come to my home just to throw up . . . but if you were my guess (who I invited over out of friendship) I would clean it up myself and hope you get well.:lol

 

[gerg]

"A supreme sense of self importance and lack of respect"? Where the hell are you getting this from? 0_o

I don't treat anyone like shit based on their job, I clean up my own litter and I don't leave a mess in the movies (cause I don't buy over priced movie food :lol ). I was simply explaining why others arnt in the wrong when they DO leave a mess for people who get paid to clean up after them.

I think "If not me, then who?" has a role to play it here.

 

[PhoncipleBone]

if Inception doesn't make $700 million domestic i'll rip off my own pubes one by one and send them each to a GAF'er.

We will have to remember this for later.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12686481&postcount=75
Sculli making a ban bet on Avatar's success. Nice.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=16771064&postcount=392

honestly cannot believe some of you do not think this will be a financial success. Even if the movie turns out to be complete shit (which all sings point to this not being the case), the budget, last we heard, was at $240 Million, with reports of it being up to 300 Million+. When you spend this much on a movie, you don't just send it out to die, you market the shit out of it. Case in point: Transformers 2.

Fox thinks (read: hopes) this will be Titanic all over again in terms of box-office success, so they will market it accordingly. Plus, Cameron has already expressed interest in sequels of AVATAR, so, logically, Fox would want to exploit that by making sure the first one is marketed properly. Market anything enough, and people will see it. On top of the marketing factor, they have the whole 3-D gimmick to factor in, and if it truly is as amazing as they say it is, then people will watch it just out of curiosity.

Combine marketing with quality, and there's no way this movie doesn't make 300 million. 400 million is an easy possibility domestic, and we could easily see this movie making more than TF2 worldwide. Bottom line: Don't bet against Cameron.

Box office wise, who is saying that? I dont think even Sculli is that crazy to think it will hit $400M. Hell, $300M domestic seems high.

At least he came around in the end.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=16805605&postcount=943

I sincerely doubt AVATAR makes more than TF2.

I'd be happy if it did though.

Hoped for the best. Prepared for the worst.

Avatar is NOT going to bomb. I think anyone thinking that or even considering that needs a serious reality check. It's a big action adventure movie with lots of creatures, battles and fantasy environments. It's being released in December right before Christmas. It's an IMAX 3D experience. It's family friendly. There is nothing else coming out in the next few months.

This doesn't mean it's going to be a huge hit, but the idea that any movie like that can remotely bomb is ridiculous. It might make 200-250 million domestic, which would not be great, but that's hardly a bomb. It might not have a HUGE opening, maybe 40-50 million, but that's not a bomb either.

Do not fall into the danger of letting the "hype" of the exaggerated expectations of the movie cloud your consideration for what is a "bomba" because that's just being silly.

Singing the gospel from early on.

Most people are not predicting over 400 million because not many films have crossed that threshold domestically. But at the same time, if Transformers 2 can do it, then maybe this can too.

I am not going to throw out predictions lightly, because honestly I see this going one of two directions. Either it will start big and fizzle very quickly like Watchmen did, or it will plow on through and be the biggest grosser this year. I dont think it will bomb bomb though. It will easily crack $100 million, and at the low end just squeak to around $200 million. Modest expectations I would put this as grossing $250 to $350 million. If it breaks $400 million though I would call it huge.

Was I vague enough in my expectations?

Ok, so it surpassed my expectations.

$72MM domestic opening weekend
$653MM domestic total

Hmm. He might be psychic. LOL.

 

[Kafarabo]

I always flush the toilet after I take a shit.

 

[Black-Wind]

I think "If not me, then who?" has a role to play it here.

"If not me then . . . the person getting paid for it." >_>

But I want to get back on topic now!

 

[PhoncipleBone]

I think "If not me, then who?" has a role to play it here.

Yup.

 

[g0est]

I just came back from my sixth viewing of the movie and the place was PACKED (300 seat 3D showing). Maybe it had something to do with it being MLK day, but the turnout for the movie was something I've never seen before, especially for a matinee showing on its sixth week of release.

 

[GhaleonEB]

Avatar's international weekend take was revised upward by $5m.

Domestic: $505,067,000
+ Foreign: $1,115,424,649

= Worldwide: $1,620,491,649

It's now $222.4m from topping Titanic, which is likely to happen by the end of this weekend.

 

[Kurtofan]

Avatar's international weekend take was revised upward by $5m.

Domestic: $505,067,000
+ Foreign: $1,115,424,649

= Worldwide: $1,620,491,649

It's now $222.4m from topping Titanic, which is likely to happen by the end of this weekend.

Wow,that's crazy!

 

[SteveMeister]

Avatar's international weekend take was revised upward by $5m.

Domestic: $505,067,000
+ Foreign: $1,115,424,649

= Worldwide: $1,620,491,649

It's now $222.4m from topping Titanic, which is likely to happen by the end of this weekend.

Next target -- beat Titanic even adjusted for inflation!

It only needs another $437M domestic!

 

[GhaleonEB]

Next target -- beat Titanic even adjusted for inflation!

It only needs another $437M domestic!

Inflation? It needs $288m for that. You mean the entirely irrelevant adjustment of ticket price inflation.

 

[maharg]

Are you saying that real inflation is more relevant than ticket price inflation? Ticket price inflation gives you (approximately) the number of people who went to see it in the theatre. Real inflation just tells you how many loafs of bread they could have bought instead.

Arguments about Gone With The Wind being from a whole different era of how people treated cinema aside, I find it ridiculous how easily people dismiss it.

 

[SteveMeister]

Inflation? It needs $288m for that. You mean the entirely irrelevant adjustment of ticket price inflation.

I'm saying it'd shut people up, because right now Titanic is #6 adjusted and Avatar is #34 on Box Office Mojo's list.

 

[universalmind]

So glad Reitman got rolled. LEARN FROM THE BEST, SON. You are not a jedi yet.

 

[GhaleonEB]

Are you saying that real inflation is more relevant than ticket price inflation? Ticket price inflation gives you (approximately) the number of people who went to see it in the theatre. Real inflation just tells you how many loafs of bread they could have bought instead.

Arguments about Gone With The Wind being from a whole different era of how people treated cinema aside, I find it ridiculous how easily people dismiss it.

Yes, because ticket price inflation is basically backing out one factor in a changing marketplace, while ignoring the others. It find it interesting to see how many tickets a film sold, or what proportion of the population went to the movie. But as a comparison of movies? Not really useful. It does more to distort the picture than to refine it.

It also discounts premiums such as IMAX and 3D screenings, which doesn't make sense to me. The studios/theaters have found a way to charge a higher price for their product, giving that product a competitive advantage over other, non-3D movies (current or past). I have yet to read an argument to justify punishing movies in those formats for the purposes of comparison. It basically says, those premiums don't count. If all you want to do is count tickets, go for it. That is an interesting measure on how the marketplace has changed over the years, and continues to. Adjusting grosses on that same basis doesn't really mean anything.

 

[Spider from Mars]

So glad Reitman got rolled. LEARN FROM THE BEST, SON.

So you are suggesting he study Stanley Kubrick more?

 

[FirewalkR]

So you are suggesting he study Stanley Kubrick more?

Just like Cameron did.

 

[Dabookerman]

The clean up people are there to clean up and they know it. :lol

By that logic, it should be fine to just litter the fuck out of the streets. I mean there are street cleaners who's job it is to clean up, so why not just through all our shit on the street.

 

[demosthenes]

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=daily&id=avatar.htm

11.8 million today!? Beat last 2 Monday's. Golden Globe bump?!

edit: And all inflation/money arguments aside. This movie is having a phenomenal run which nobody can deny. 5th weekend #1, like once a decade type movie.

 

[GaimeGuy]

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=daily&id=avatar.htm

11.8 million today!? Beat last 2 Monday's. Golden Globe bump?!

It's a holiday today.

 

[jett]

Are you saying that real inflation is more relevant than ticket price inflation? Ticket price inflation gives you (approximately) the number of people who went to see it in the theatre. Real inflation just tells you how many loafs of bread they could have bought instead.

Arguments about Gone With The Wind being from a whole different era of how people treated cinema aside, I find it ridiculous how easily people dismiss it.

I personally dismiss it because movies like GWTW played in theater not for years, but for decades. I personally think the comparisons are meaningless.

 

[skyfinch]

What if Cameron made a movie about blue aliens, who build a gigantic cruise ship that sank?

Would we be talking 100 billion or even more?

 

[demosthenes]

What if Cameron made a movie about blue aliens, who build a gigantic cruise ship that sank?

Would we be talking 100 billion or even more?

Add 4D and it's guaranteed.

 

[FirewalkR]

It will blow by 2 Billion but will be beaten relatively soon by Avatar 2, which will also destroy the opening weekend record.

By the end of the trilogy Cameron will have the 4 highest grossing movies of all time.

 

[Black-Wind]

By that logic, it should be fine to just litter the fuck out of the streets. I mean there are street cleaners who's job it is to clean up, so why not just through all our shit on the street.

Don't know where you live but the only "street cleaner" I know of is that shitty truck that rolls around with huge brushes on what seems to be a random bases. And they don't do a good job at much other then throw the shit to the curb where you would be forced to clean it anyway. 0_o

 

[PhoncipleBone]

By that logic, it should be fine to just litter the fuck out of the streets. I mean there are street cleaners who's job it is to clean up, so why not just through all our shit on the street.

Ah, thank you. Best analogy. Unfortunately I dont think it will get through, as evident from the above post.

 

[user_nat]

It will blow by 2 Billion but will be beaten relatively soon by Avatar 2, which will also destroy the opening weekend record.

By the end of the trilogy Cameron will have the 4 highest grossing movies of all time.

I don't think an Avatar 2 will do as well (could do much worse and still make the top 3 all time). To me a lot of the appeal is the 3d tech, which by 2012 (or whenever) will probably not be as big of a deal.

Then again, I didn't think Avatar would do this well either.

The opening week will be massive, but probably lower than it could be due to movie length.

 

[msdstc]

list of stuff

You sound like a complete asshole. Somebody forget to teach you proper manners.

edit- When I go to movies IF I bring anything at all, I bring my own stuff in... my theater allows this. The concession stands are an absolute scam, I don't understand how people get suckered in by this time and time again. I also make sure to clean up everything I do bring in. I hate when I move my feet and I'm stuck to the floor or I'm kicking bottles/cups around.