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[Tricky I Shadow]

Avatar Oscar nominations, from the other thread:

Best Picture
Best Director
Art Direction
Cinematography
Film Editing
Music (Original Score)
Sound Editing
Sound Mixing
Visual Effects

I'm predicting it'll win all of those except maybe not Best Director + Music (Original Score).

I think James Cameron definitely deserves Best Director, but I think his ex wife will take it.

 

[EternalSunshine1976]

Been working on a Google Docs spreadsheet for my own curiosity, and made a few graphs (clickable for larger versions). The 230 day graph really makes Avatar's crazy performance apparent. It has a slope like no other movie...

Through Day 47 for Avatar, and Day 70 for everything else



Through Day 47 for Avatar, and Day 230 for everything else



The full excel sheet is shareable, and found here: GOOGLE SPREADSHEET

 

[Vic]

Damn

 

[hirokazu]

That also really shows how steady Titanic's legs were.

 

[Expendable.]

I'm writing up a feature on films that could rival Avatar's Box Office. Here is what I have so far for different reasons:

Iron Man 2

Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows

John Carter of Mars

The Adventures of Tintin

Tron: Legacy

The Hobbit

Transformers 3

Avatar 2

Battle Angel

Pirates 4

The Dark Knight "Sequel"


Anyone have any other ideas?

 

[Baki]

I'm writing up a feature on films that could rival Avatar's Box Office. Here is what I have so far for different reasons:

Iron Man 2

Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows

John Carter of Mars

The Adventures of Tintin

Tron: Legacy

The Hobbit

Transformers 3

Avatar 2

Battle Angel

Pirates 4

The Dark Knight "Sequel"


Anyone have any other ideas?

None of them will come close (except Avatar 2/Battle Angel) for the same reason why the no one came within 700M of Titanic overall gross. Its just too much of a mountain to climb.

Now if this is an article about the next potential box office movies to hit $1BN, then the Dark Knight Sequel and Harry Potter are the only candidates. (with Hobbit also being a potential candidate, but to a lesser extent)

EDIT: Oh and Pirates 4.

 

[Bit-Bit]

I'm writing up a feature on films that could rival Avatar's Box Office. Here is what I have so far for different reasons:

Iron Man 2

Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows

John Carter of Mars

The Adventures of Tintin

Tron: Legacy

The Hobbit

Transformers 3

Avatar 2

Battle Angel

Pirates 4

The Dark Knight "Sequel"


Anyone have any other ideas?

If Pirates 4 is in 3D, I think that's the only movie that will have a chance.

 

[GhaleonEB]

That second graph really shows how crazy Avatar's legs are, and how much further it could go. Just wow. :lol

 

[Baki]

If Pirates 4 is in 3D, I think that's the only movie that will have a chance.

No it won't. Plus, I honestly think that Pirates will probably suffer franchise fatigue (with the way they are whoring it out).

 

[Gui_PT]

I just want to know when this technology will restart the Halo movie's production

Don't hate pleaz

 

[HolyCheck]

I'm writing up a feature on films that could rival Avatar's Box Office. Here is what I have so far for different reasons:



John Carter of Mars




Anyone have any other ideas?

Totally didn't know they were making this. Am now excited.

 

[madara]

Dang I need to see this on Imax for a second viewing before its gone.

 

[-COOLIO-]

I'm writing up a feature on films that could rival Avatar's Box Office. Here is what I have so far for different reasons:

Iron Man 2

Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows

John Carter of Mars

The Adventures of Tintin

Tron: Legacy

The Hobbit

Transformers 3

Avatar 2

Battle Angel

Pirates 4

The Dark Knight "Sequel"


Anyone have any other ideas?

it took 12 years to topple titanic. i wouldnt bet on any of these except maaaaaaaybe battle angel for obvious reasons.

 

[EternalSunshine1976]

That second graph really shows how crazy Avatar's legs are, and how much further it could go. Just wow. :lol

Definitely, not only does Avatar have legs, it's got speed as well... It's now $288 million ahead of Titanic at this point in Titanic's run.

 

[Somnia]

Remember guys this thing is going to end up at 2.5-3 billion world wide. Not only is there still a 700 million gap between #2 and #3 in the top 10 there will potentially be a 1+ billion difference between #1 and #2. Avatar will be #1 for quite a long time.

 

[EternalSunshine1976]

Avatar officially trumps Titanic! Hollywood Reporter Article

On Wednesday, "Avatar" distributor Fox said the scifi epic had rung up $601.2 million in domestic b.o. through Tuesday. "Titanic" registered $600.8 million in U.S. and Canadian coin.

 

[mckmas8808]

Remember guys this thing is going to end up at 2.5-3 billion world wide. Not only is there still a 700 million gap between #2 and #3 in the top 10 there will potentially be a 1+ billion difference between #1 and #2. Avatar will be #1 for quite a long time.

And remember this too guys, the only guy that actually beat James Cameron was James Cameron.

So likes not act like the next "BIG" movie in 3D will compete with Avatar.

 

[demosthenes]

If Pirates 4 is in 3D, I think that's the only movie that will have a chance.

Every Harry Potter has been $900m plus. Pretty sure the last 2 movies have a shot at a billion.

 

[Baki]

And remember this too guys, the only guy that actually beat James Cameron was James Cameron.

So likes not act like the next "BIG" movie in 3D will compete with Avatar.

There can only be ONE....

Spoiler

Cameron

 

[Count Dookkake]

Iceberg, dead behind!

 

[ryutaro's mama]

Avatar officially trumps Titanic! Hollywood Reporter Article

And home in time for dinner.

 

[Trickster]

Every Harry Potter has been $900m plus. Pretty sure the last 2 movies have a shot at a billion.

Would still not even be half of what Avatar is gonna end at, and the Harry Potter movie that made the most money was the first one.

 

[CassSept]

it took 12 years to topple titanic. i wouldnt bet on any of these except maaaaaaaybe battle angel for obvious reasons.

First thought is that anime adaptation has no chance of crossing even $500 mil., but after Avatar I really, really don't know.

 

[jmdajr]

Congratulations James. To tell ya the truth, I didn't think you could do it.

 

[PhoncipleBone]

Avatar officially trumps Titanic! Hollywood Reporter Article

And that is how you scatter the roaches.

 

[Somnia]

Cameron and the cast are on Larry King tonight as a heads up to all.

 

[Blablurn]

the king is dead, long live the king.

 

[LosDaddie]

meh....adjusting to inflation, Avatar still has a long way to go be the real #1

Spoiler

yes, i was kidding.

 

[-COOLIO-]

meh....adjusting to inflation, Avatar still has a long way to go be the real #1

adjusting to every other factor, im sure it's around there.

 

[EternalSunshine1976]

meh....adjusting to inflation, Avatar still has a long way to go be the real #1

This is a very cogent point! Especially considering the fact that if it were released today, Gone With the Wind would blow Avatar away at the box office... :lol

 

[Sriffat]

Rupert Murdoch Pushing James Cameron for Avatar 2

http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/rupert-murdoch-pushing-for-avatar-2/

In yesterday's News Corp earnings call, Rupert Murdoch revealed there have been "very early talks about it" with James Cameron and "we'll be pushing for one". He also noted about the sequel: "Jim had ideas for one" but "we haven't come to any agreement with him or budget or timing." Murdoch also referred to the fact that Avatar was 14-years in the making, so "being Jim Cameron I wouldn't hold your breath for an early one."

It has made so much money that even Fox's Rupert Murdoch wants more the allegedly 'liberal' film

Money Talks

 

[GhaleonEB]

"we haven't come to any agreement with him or budget or timing."

I suspect the offer was something like, "As much as you want for as soon as you can."

 

[WillyFive]

I really can't understand how Titanic and Avatar made it. They are both from James Cameron.

If Battle Angel becomes this huge, then we all know that James Cameron is a warlock.

 

[EternalSunshine1976]

I really can't understand how Titanic and Avatar made it. They are both from James Cameron.

If Battle Angel becomes this huge, then we all know that James Cameron is a warlock.

There's a reason why his initials are what they are...

 

[dmshaposv]

Avatar officially trumps Titanic! Hollywood Reporter Article

End of a fucking era. Now I won't have to cringe at Titanic being at the top.

Spoiler

but I will still have to cringe at Avatar being at the top Still Avatar > Titanic

 

[Frank "Trashman" Reynolds]

Cameron should do a Titanic sequel.

 

[Vic]

Cameron should do a Titanic sequel.

Pfff, what?

Oh, wait: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD4OnHCRd_4

:lol :lol

 

[LosDaddie]

meh....adjusting to inflation, Avatar still has a long way to go be the real #1

awesome :lol

 

[Vic]

awesome :lol

 

[MisterHero]

Pfff, what?

Oh, wait: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD4OnHCRd_4

:lol :lol

Why is the trailer for Captain America being re-labled as Titanic 2?

 

[Vic]

Why is the trailer for Captain America being re-labled as Titanic 2?

Because Cameron can't write original scripts.

 

[Trurl]

Is anyone else watching Larry King?

 

[GhaleonEB]

Is anyone else watching Larry King?

I'll watch the replay online. That senile old man in suspenders gives me the creeps, though.

 

[Trurl]

I'll watch the replay online. That senile old man in suspenders gives me the creeps, though.

:lol
I enjoy Larry King quite a bit when he isn't talking about stupid celebrity gossip.

So far the best part has been Stephen Lang talking about his character.

Edit: I want an avatar of Larry King as an avatar.

 

[border]

Especially considering the fact that if it were released today, Gone With the Wind would blow Avatar away at the box office... :lol

Why does this always get brought up? Yeah, a 70 year old movie would not do very well in today's box office....times and taste change. Avatar wouldn't do that well if it was released in 2080 either.

 

[Sriffat]

The 3D and Inflation effect

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=2667&p=l.htm

All told, Avatar's estimated admission count is 60.7 million thus far, or less than Titanic through the same point (47 days in). It's also less than half of Titanic's 128 million total estimated admissions. Emphasizing the impressiveness of Avatar, it took such recent blockbusters as The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King, Spider-Man 2, The Passion of the Christ and Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith their entire runs to reach around 60 million admissions.

Unfortunately, the industry does not track admissions, only dollars. Absent proper admissions tracking, estimated admissions are determined by dividing the grosses by the average ticket prices, but this method is certainly iffy and should not be seen as definitive. It's best used for recent releases that have complete box office records, but, even then, one may know the national average ticket price but not the average for an individual movie. The audiences vary demographically and regionally for each movie, which means different average ticket prices. What's more, for a picture like Avatar, the method does not address leveling the playing field for the possible deterrent of higher ticket prices, how the 3D presentations impact 2D attendance or how 3D currently has far fewer theaters than past 2D blockbusters.

However, it's better to have an approximation than to have nothing. Only the money may matter to Hollywood, but attendance is important from an audience and cultural perspective. The disparity between Avatar and Titanic is so huge according to this method, that it is safe to say that Titanic sold a boatload more tickets.

Pointing out the estimated admissions in no way diminishes the box office achievement of Avatar. The purpose is to add perspective. There is no doubt that Avatar is a phenomenon in its own right with its own unique set of circumstances and that it stands as one of the greatest box office runs of all time.

 

[Deleted member 22576]

Oh, wait: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD4OnHCRd_4

:lol :lol

I would soooo go to see this.
Wow, that was great.

 

[Somnia]

The 3D and Inflation effect

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=2667&p=l.htm

Emphasizing the impressiveness of Avatar, it took such recent blockbusters as The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King, Spider-Man 2, The Passion of the Christ and Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith their entire runs to reach around 60 million admissions.

That right there is something people should pay attention to regarding this entire argument. Yes it's making a lot of cash, but it also is selling a ton of tickets. Times are different now than titanic days and even more so with Gone with the Wind. When all is said and done this will be the highest ticket seller since Titanic which is a feat that is very very hard to do in this day and age.

 

[FlawlessCowboy]

I saw this movie again today with some friends. The story and visuals are so captivating. I loved it even more the second time.

Screw the haters. I hope this movie wins best picture.

 

[GhaleonEB]

The 3D and Inflation effect

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=2667&p=l.htm

I kind of wish Mojo had been around in 1998, when Titanic crossed $600m. I don't recall there being any discussion of ticket price inflation as a constant caveat to the box office. Brandon's article archives start a few months too late. Guru (a site I've read since 1997 for analysis) wrote this article when Titanic crossed $600m, with nary a mention of ticket prices.

This time around, similar to Mojo's article, it's all about admissions:

Of course, Avatar is benefiting from higher ticket prices for 2D films as well as surcharges from 3D and IMAX 3D screens where the bulk of the business is coming from. As for total audience size, Titanic sold roughly 125 million tickets while Avatar has sold in the neighborhood of 70 million and counting which is about equal to the tallies of 2004's Shrek 2 and 2002's Spider-Man. Studios generally do not reveal exact admissions figures. Still, movie fans have never emptied their wallets to this extent before.

I think the 3D premiums and IMAX screens have really brought more attention to it, since the pushed prices up much faster than the gradual rise that had been seen previously. Just another sign of how much the market has changed over the past 12 years.