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Snaku said:
Target will have it for $19.99. I expect Amazon to price match at some point.
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You also get 3$ off Avatar BD or DVD with Purchase of it plus one of the following:
X-Men Origins: Wolverine
ID4
The Day After Tomorrow
Australia
The Kingdom Of Heaven
Jumper
Master And Commander
...all $14.99

Time to finally pick up M and C possibly.
 
Scullibundo said:
I wonder if that Target price will extend to Aus as well.
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:lol

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Scullibundo said:
Hey! Our dollar is good this week. $25 sounds reasonable, as opposed to the $39.95 JB Hi Fi are asking for (I think).
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There may be an introductory special considering how well the film did, but there's no way it's going to be the AUD equivalent of US$20 or thereabouts. New release BDs are, what, $35-40 here? I'm guessing $29.99 will be the "special" price.
 
Bit-Bit said:
I'm also saying that it takes a great director to get all of that together and working. I mentioned the shots in the film are some of the best in recent years. I'm talking about the framing and compositions of the shots. It's this combination of tech and art that I credit to Cameron and believe that is why he should have won best director. Sorry I wasn't too clear.
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QFMFT.

The main argument I've seen for why Cameron didn't deserve BD is that the actors in The Hurt Locker gave better performances, which makes little sense. Not only is the director not the one performing, but Cameron got arguably the best blue-screen performances of all time out of his actors.

What Cameron did is a major, major accomplishment in the history of film. Saying "well, it won the technical awards and cinematography" is ignoring the fact that this was Cameron's project, and he was the one who held everything together and really created this thing from the ground up.
 
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=65234

Over the next few months, Landau and Cameron will be overseeing production on the supplementary materials for the four-disc ultimate edition Avatar Blu-ray out in November

Eventually, the Blu-ray will include a brand-new two-hour documentary on making Avatar and unused extra scenes from the movie, including more on the Na'vi school run by Sigourney Weaver and on Jake's training as an Avatar. With that in mind, we wondered how much time Cameron might have to start developing new material.
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Special Edition will be 4 discs :D
 
Puddles said:
QFMFT.

The main argument I've seen for why Cameron didn't deserve BD is that the actors in The Hurt Locker gave better performances, which makes little sense. Not only is the director not the one performing, but Cameron got arguably the best blue-screen performances of all time out of his actors.

What Cameron did is a major, major accomplishment in the history of film. Saying "well, it won the technical awards and cinematography" is ignoring the fact that this was Cameron's project, and he was the one who held everything together and really created this thing from the ground up.
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Very well put. This more than anything is why Cameron is such a great director.
 
Ill be waiting until November myself. I want the extras, and its already been 4 months since I last saw the movie, so whats another 7?
 
GhaleonEB said:
No double dipping for me.

Of course, I don't own a Blu-Ray player. I'll pick one up the same day the Ultimate Edition hits. :D
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Not only am I double dipping, I just bought a bluray player for my bedroom so when my flatmate is hogging the big TV in the lounge, I can get my fix in bed before knocking off. That came out wrong.
 
Dreams-Visions said:
I hate saying, "well duh", but everyone should be well aware by now that passive 3D glasses reduce the brightness a full stop. something like a 40% drop in brightness!
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I would have thought that for 3-D showings, the projected image would be brightened to compensate for the tinted glasses.
 
richiek said:
I would have thought that for 3-D showings, the projected image would be brightened to compensate for the tinted glasses.
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In the right cinemas with projectionists who knew what they were doing, they were. But then you had people taking off their glasses and seeing that it was even brighter (than the intended image) and saying 'Fuck this 3d! Its darkening the image! I want to see it THAT bright!' :lol
 
If you guys think Cameron deserved Best Director for fucking Avatar then I hope Gaspar Noe gets the Oscar (which he obviously won't, probably not even a nomination) for Enter The Void. Which I heard has some of the best cinematography ever put to film....ever.
 
http://www.rifftrax.com/rifftrax/avatar

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By now, everyone knows the story of how Avatar single-handedly changed moviemaking forever. Its visionary director (whose name escapes us, you know the one, he's that guy who didn't win an Oscar this year) proved that progressive films can succeed in today's marketplace. As long as progressive means "completely unoriginal and devoid of depth" and the high praise heaped upon the work is entirely based upon it being nice to look at. In this sense, Megan Fox is a progressive actress, and The Hills was the most important television show of the last 10 years. It is truly a bold, experimental piece of work, keeping in mind that crystal meth and fat substitute Olestra (which brought the phrase "anal leakage" into our lexicon) were also the results of experimentation.

For those of you who haven't seen it (*cricket cricket*), Avatar is the story of just how pretty a jungle planet can look in 3D, and maybe there are some people fighting in it or whatever. It's also a great refresher on some of your favorite 90s action movie dialogue clichés.

Mike, Kevin, and Bill implore you to "GO GO GO!" and "MOVE MOVE MOVE!" lest you be "s*** out dead without warning" before enjoying Avatar!
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Looks like I'm buying the bare-bones edition next week.
 
“Also,” Cameron adds with a mischievous grin, “I have this kind of unwritten deal with Fox that, any time one of my movies makes more than a billion dollars, we leave all the crap trailers off of it, just as a little service to the viewer. Because I can’t stand watching them any more than you can.”

Avatar has now grossed a record $2.7 billion worldwide, a record $743.7 million of that in the U.S. and Canada. Avatar broke Cameron’s own records, which were set by Titanic (1997). The weird thing is how he almost made Battle Angel, a futuristic story about a female cyborg, instead of Avatar. Both projects, long in gestation, had been on equal footing in the planning stages. “They were in a dead heat for a while,” Cameron says. “It was almost a coin toss.”

But he and Landau had to shoot test footage of the motion capture techniques they were planning for both. Only Avatar offered a simple scene involving two CG characters with dialogue, a prototype of the scene of when Sam Worthington first meets Zoe Saldana. The Battle Angel scenes all involved CG action sequences. So Avatar became the test case. “It was a purely practical matter. Then, when we did the test, we just got all into Avatar and then it went to weeks later and we’re doing Avatar. We never looked back at Battle Angel.

“But it wasn’t some master plan. You could expect it to be a master plan, like we’re a little more in control of things than that.” But that was not the case, Cameron says. An accident of planning became part of cinema history — and it is still making history.

Cameron pondering next move

James Cameron has no idea yet what his next feature film will be. One choice is a sequel to Avatar. Another is Battle Angel, the futuristic sci-fi adventure he put on hold to make Avatar.

“Battle Angel was parked the whole time,” Cameron says of the five years he spent making Avatar. “It is still parked now. So I’ve got to decide. Do I want to go back and do Battle Angel now, and come back to Avatar later? Do I want to just plough on with Avatar? Do I want to go do something completely different, like this Mars project that has been floating around out there for the past 12 years?”

The Mars movie originally inspired Cameron to develop the 3D camera systems he then used on Avatar. As for the Avatar sequel, he already has one major sequence in hand. It was filmed for Avatar and then deleted. It will not appear in any DVD or Blu-ray extras, keeping it available for future use, Cameron explains.

“There are a number of options,” Cameron says, summing up his choices. “I haven’t decided. I have too many possibilities and not enough time.”
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Hmm! I'm glad to hear he is at least considering Battle Angel again. I like that he convinced FOX to leave the goddamn trailers off the blu.

Also, as a special feature, I present you with..

James Cameron goes to the Amazon! (video)
http://www.mnn.com/green-tech/computers/blogs/video-footage-from-james-camerons-trip-to-the-amazon
 
Hm, is this "na na we won´t show you" scene the one were
Neytiri is shown pregnant
that was in the script, but left out of the movie to let it end with Jake waking up?

At this point Avatar has settled in and I no longer need to have a sequel that soon. With the BR releases there´ll be enough Pandora for a time, the movie is just so re-watchble. I don´t care what Cameron does next as long as he starts it soon instead of taking a year long coke n bitches time-out :lol

Edit: Omg, the BR is cheaper on German Amazon than my regular UK webshop! *happy dance* :D And it´s a SE without the usual German logo shit! Yay.
 
god, the blu ray is coming next week? guess i'll buy it. i'm in china when the special edition comes out. i don't want to wait till next year :lol
 
Scullibundo said:
Hmm! I'm glad to hear he is at least considering Battle Angel again. I like that he convinced FOX to leave the goddamn trailers off the blu.

Also, as a special feature, I present you with..

James Cameron goes to the Amazon! (video)
http://www.mnn.com/green-tech/computers/blogs/video-footage-from-james-camerons-trip-to-the-amazon
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I want to hear more about this Mars movie. This makes it like four movies that he's trying to decide on which one will be his next. And they all sound good, except for maybe the Dive.
 
So I pre-ordered the DVD version since I don't have a Blu Ray player because they're way too expensive for me

Apparently the pre-order comes with a "book with pictures from the movie". Does anyone know what book this may be? Perhaps the movie scrapbook?
 
Dead said:
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=65234

Over the next few months, Landau and Cameron will be overseeing production on the supplementary materials for the four-disc ultimate edition Avatar Blu-ray out in November

Eventually, the Blu-ray will include a brand-new two-hour documentary on making Avatar and unused extra scenes from the movie, including more on the Na'vi school run by Sigourney Weaver and on Jake's training as an Avatar. With that in mind, we wondered how much time Cameron might have to start developing new material.
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Special Edition will be 4 discs :D
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I'm more interested in that than the movie itself. Love "making of" documentaries.
 
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=65324

CS: It's been four months, but the movie's still playing well in theaters and is still in the Top 12.
Landau: Yeah, but there's such a demand worldwide for people who want to return to Pandora that we felt that to do it. With the added content that we want to do in today's day and age - the internet has made behind the scenes footage available prior to a DVD release, so you can't just put that on there because people have seen that already. You have to create original content to support the added value material. So we needed the time in order to create the appropriate added value content including scenes that weren't in the movie that Weta Digital is now taking four to five months to finish scenes to be in the movie. We just couldn't wait for a DVD release until November and we couldn't get that content ready before then. So we chose to say, "Let's get rid of all the frills. Let's get rid of trailers. Let's get rid of commercials. Let's get rid of director's commentary and utilize every available bit of this space for the presentation of the film itself." We went with very simplistic menus again because things that I didn't know about before we sort of had this mandate of say, "Can we elaborate on the menu a little bit?" They said, "We could, but you have to do nine different versions and you gotta do it in French, you gotta do it in Spanish and you gotta do all this different branching and it's gonna take up this space, so you're gonna lose something off of the picture quality," and we just didn't want to do that.

CS: But you mentioned additional scenes.
Landau: Right, but again, I think another thing that was very important for Jim is that the movie go out the first time as the director's cut. This is his version of the movie. Anything we do down the road, it's going to be fan-based. Jim put his best foot forward. There's a lot of stuff that's great content. There was really no scene in the movie that did not work as a part, but to create the best version of the whole as a way to introduce the world to "Avatar," it's this version of the movie. Now that people are a little bit more familiar with the world, do you have another couple of minutes to tell a little bit more of the back story, behind the scenes in the school that Sigourney taught at? Do you have time to see a little more action of Jake maybe in his training? You know, those are the type of things that we might have more room to do now and would make available.
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4 to 5 months to finish new scenes...I wonder how much total will be done for the Blu-Ray. 4-5 months seems like a lot for only 6 minutes, which the number that Cameron threw out last month.

And I guess some of the scenes confirmed for the extended cut are the backstory of Graces School and more of Jakes training. Putting in the School backstory is a good addition imo.
 
Dead said:
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=65324


4 to 5 months to finish new scenes...I wonder how much total will be done for the Blu-Ray. 4-5 months seems like a lot for only 6 minutes, which the number that Cameron threw out last month.

And I guess some of the scenes confirmed for the extended cut are the backstory of Graces School and more of Jakes training. Putting in the School backstory is a good addition imo.
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Well I believe were getting the backstory on Graces School, more interaction with Grace and Jake during his training, Jakes sturmbeast kill, the party/dance after with Tsu'Tey getting drunk and then Neytiri and Jake dancing around the fire and Tsu'Teys death for sure. I hope we get a bit more and 4-5 months seems like we might. I'm sure they are keeping some stuff close to the chest.
 
Just gimme the goddamn earth scenes in the cut of the film! I don't want to have to view them separately. Fuck. I bet Horner didn't even score them.
 
Scullibundo said:
Just gimme the goddamn earth scenes in the cut of the film! I don't want to have to view them separately. Fuck. I bet Horner didn't even score them.
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You can be pretty sure that the first Earth-Scene from the script will make it into the Extended Cut. This scene has been defenitily shot as one picture of it was floating through the internet a while ago.
I'm just reading the entire original script at work when I have nothing to do and so far I have to say it's really a shame that Cameron left out so many scenes. Especially the first scene on Earth would have really helped the movie to create an even better atmosphere because as a viewer you would have seen Earth prior to Pandora. I think the contrast of this picture could have make you emphatize even more with the Na'Vi. I mean Jake mentions in the movie what Earth looks like but to see this would have been far better. Hope you know what I mean.
Another scene I think is a shame they cut out was the one at Grace's school and I'm really glad to hear that this scene will most certainly make it into the Extended Cut. Think in the Theatre-Version it's quite unclear as why the relationship with the Na'Vi went to hell and this scene really helps to understand this aspect.

I'm not much further in the script so far but I wonder how much more of such decent scene were cut out.
 
TheExorzist said:
You can be pretty sure that the first Earth-Scene from the script will make it into the Extended Cut. This scene has been defenitily shot as one picture of it was floating through the internet a while ago.
I'm just reading the entire original script at work when I have nothing to do and so far I have to say it's really a shame that Cameron left out so many scenes. Especially the first scene on Earth would have really helped the movie to create an even better atmosphere because as a viewer you would have seen Earth prior to Pandora. I think the contrast of this picture could have make you emphatize even more with the Na'Vi. I mean Jake mentions in the movie what Earth looks like but to see this would have been far better. Hope you know what I mean.
Another scene I think is a shame they cut out was the one at Grace's school and I'm really glad to hear that this scene will most certainly make it into the Extended Cut. Think in the Theatre-Version it's quite unclear as why the relationship with the Na'Vi went to hell and this scene really helps to understand this aspect.

I'm not much further in the script so far but I wonder how much more of such decent scene were cut out.
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Yeah I know the earth stuff was shot, but its a bigger question whether Horner scored it. I have a feeling that the scene Cameron is saving for the sequel is THE Tsu Tey scene.
 
Cameron has mentioned that we wouldnt see the Earth scene in any kind of extended cut, as cutting that scene was one of the decisions he wouldn't go back on no matter what.

I really wouldn't get your hopes up. It will definitely be in the Deleted scenes though.
 
Scullibundo said:
Yeah I know the earth stuff was shot, but its a bigger question whether Horner scored it. I have a feeling that the scene Cameron is saving for the sequel is THE Tsu Tey scene.
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I have to say I'm just hoping he will use everything from the original script. It's almost crazy how good it is. Many things make so much more sense. Just read a scene which makes the whole Toruk Makto thing and how Jake even had the idea of riding the Leonopteryx. I can't believe Cameron cut that out....

Believe me when I say that I'm on page 88 now and I haven't read a single page/scene that was really worth cutting out.

Cameron has mentioned that we wouldnt see the Earth scene in any kind of extended cut, as cutting that scene was one of the decisions he wouldn't go back on no matter what.

I really wouldn't get your hopes up. It will definitely be in the Deleted scenes though.
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Shit man, I just read about this. I don't get Cameron on that point....
I mean, it's like with Terminator. There would be missing something without the post-apocalyptic beginning, wouldn't it?
 
TheExorzist said:
I have to say I'm just hoping he will use everything from the original script. It's almost crazy how good it is. Many things make so much more sense. Just read a scene which makes the whole Toruk Makto thing and how Jake even had the idea of riding the Leonopteryx. I can't believe Cameron cut that out....

Believe me when I say that I'm on page 88 now and I haven't read a single page/scene that was really worth cutting out.
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Yeah, really the stuff that was cut was just as strong as what is in the movie.

However, Cameron really didn't have a choice in cutting stuff out as he had to fit the movie into the IMAX Time Limit.

Will be interesting to see how much footage is completed when the SE is released.
 
Dead said:
Yeah, really the stuff that was cut was just as strong as what is in the movie.

However, Cameron really didn't have a choice in cutting stuff out as he had to fit the movie into the IMAX Time Limit.

Will be interesting to see how much footage is completed when the SE is released.
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Can't hardly wait to see. Just finished the infamous Sex-Scene and - though I first thought that it's good Cameron cut it out - even this scene is great. Think the movie wouln't get so much hate if he left all the cut out scenes in there cause they provide more depth.
Will defenitly see the Extended Cut in cinema in case of a re-release (which seems to be quite certain). As said, it's just a shame that Cameron does not want to change the beginning.
 
New Cameron interview

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/her...aign=Feed:+The_Hero_Complex+(The+Hero+Complex)

PD: Will we see an "Avatar" theatrical re-release this summer?

JC: We’re working on finishing an additional six minutes of the film -- which includes a lot of Weta work -- for a theatrical re-release in August. We were sold out of our Imax performances right up to the moment until they were contractually obligated to switch to “Alice in Wonderland,” so we know we left money on the table there. And the 3-D really helped “Avatar” right up until the moment that it hurt it. And it hurt it at the moment “Alice” and then “How to Train Your Dragon” and “Clash of the Titans” came in and sucked up all the 3-D screens. We went from declining 8% a week to declining 50%. Clearly, it wasn’t market forces directly; it was the availability of theaters. So we’re going to wait until there’s a time to come back in, inject the new footage into the mix and see if we can interest people in the “Avatar” experience in theaters.

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PD: When you embark on your next film project, do you know what the challenge will be? Something on par with filming underwater for “The Abyss” or perfecting the performance capture technology in “Avatar”?

JC: Well you’ve already defined what the challenge will be on the next “Avatar” picture, which is to do what we did before at half the price and in half the time. Again, that’s an impossible goal, we won’t accomplish that, but if we can reduce by 25% in both categories, we’ll have really accomplished something. We know our methodology works. We also know it took two years to come up with. It didn’t even become efficient until the last two months of the production. So we were four years into a project before we had this machine running smoothly. So we take a snapshot of that moment in our production and say that’s what we look like on Day 1, we’re going to do better. Now, none of that has anything to do with coming up with a great story or great characters or great new settings and so on. That all is a given. That’s not to say that it’s done yet, it’s a given that we have to do that. But for me, the technical challenge is in improving the process having proved that it works.

We created a broad canvas for the environment of film. That’s not just on Pandora, but throughout the Alpha Centauri AB system. And we expand out across that system and incorporate more into the story – not necessarily in the second film, but more toward a third film. I’ve already announced this, so I might as well say it: Part of my focus in the second film is in creating a different environment – a different setting within Pandora. And I’m going to be focusing on the ocean on Pandora, which will be equally rich and diverse and crazy and imaginative, but it just won’t be a rain forest. I’m not saying we won’t see what we’ve already seen; we’ll see more of that as well.
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- Confirms theatrical re-release
- Still saying 6 minutes of brand new footage being completed by Weta ATM for the re-release

- Avatar 2 will have a focus on the Oceans of Pandora

Im still hoping we see more than 6 minutes. Maybe its 6 minutes of MoCap scenes + a few more of Human scenes? :(
 
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