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TacticalFox88 said:
Damn, I feel like, Sculi, Dead, Solo, and I are the only ones hyped for the sequels. We're the only ones posting here. lol

Avatar 2 and 3 are the only movies I am looking forward to. Then again, the only movies I ever look forward to are James Cameron movies.

Anyway, I try not to think about the sequels because they are an eternity away. I mean, the scripts aren't even done yet. But at least it won't be as bad as the 12 year wait between Titanic and Avatar 1.
 
ArachosiA 78 said:
Avatar 2 and 3 are the only movies I am looking forward to. Then again, the only movies I ever look forward to are James Cameron movies.

Anyway, I try not to think about the sequels because they are an eternity away. I mean, the scripts aren't even done yet. But at least it won't be as bad as the 12 year wait between Titanic and Avatar 1.

No, that wait will be saved for Battle Angel.
 
To be honest I wouldn't even be surprised if part 2 gets delayed to 2015 lol

Wasn't part 1 originally slated for summer 08? rofl. Delayed a year and a half and they still barely finished on time, despite a, what Im assumeing was a shorter than originally planned runtime

I swear, one of the most enlightening things I heard about how arduous the production must have beeb, was hearing Joe Letteri say (paraphrasing) "we were hoping to complete all 200 minutes of the film ourselves" regarding Weta's involvement
 
Scullibundo said:
No, that wait will be saved for Battle Angel.
Yeah, I'm not holding my breath for BA. 12 years sounds about right, if we ever get it.

Dead said:
To be honest I wouldn't even be surprised if part 2 gets delayed to 2015 lol

Wasn't part 1 originally slated for summer 08? rofl. Delayed a year and a half and they still barely finished on time, despite a, what Im assumeing was a shorter than originally planned runtime

I swear, one of the most enlightening things I heard about how arduous the production must have beeb, was hearing Joe Letteri say (paraphrasing) "we were hoping to complete all 200 minutes of the film ourselves" regarding Weta's involvement

I'm thinking at least one of the Avatar sequels will get pushed back. I don't know how they expect to do all the post-processing for Avatar 3 in just 1 year. The movies are being shot at 48fps I believe, which is going to double the rendering time needed, if I understand that correctly. I don't see how there's enough time.
 
TacticalFox88 said:
Damn, I feel like, Sculi, Dead, Solo, and I are the only ones hyped for the sequels. We're the only ones posting here. lol
You can add me to the list. :D I want to see Battle Angel, but I'll probably see it with my son when he's a teenager lol.
 
jett said:
this thread is alive because sculli doesn't do dare post new threads for inane news again. :P

Just you wait till Cameron comes out wearing Battle Angel socks.

Dead: Cameron once said that they were hoping for an 07 release. Lulz.
 
TacticalFox88 said:
Damn, I feel like, Sculi, Dead, Solo, and I are the only ones hyped for the sequels. We're the only ones posting here. lol


Hype is rising. Love reading up on what's new once it's posted here. Bust just making a post saying "cool" wouldn't really be worth much.
 
So I just finished watching the dvd collectors edition of Avatar featuring an extra 16 min of addtional footage and the scene that was only worth watching that was cut from the theatrical release was
Tsu'tey asking Jake Sulley to be his last shadow (mercy kill) and giving him the "reins" to lead his people

Great film, should've watched it on 3-D :(
 
TacticalFox88 said:
Solo waited 20 months? Why would you torture yourself like this?

Previous to last November, I never let myself have a backlog. I'd have the game or movie I was about to play/watch, and that was it. But then I went batshit insane on Black Friday and its taken me the better part of 8 months to clear out my backlog, which I'm close to finally doing. The Avatar set is rather daunting, so I've held off on it.
 
TacticalFox88 said:
Damn, I feel like, Sculi, Dead, Solo, and I are the only ones hyped for the sequels. We're the only ones posting here. lol

Who Posted?
Total Posts: 17,820
User Name Posts

Scullibundo 1,069

GhaleonEB 751
Dead 731

Solo 544
StuBurns 530
jett 526

CassidyIzABeast 332
Veidt 311
gdt5016 308
Zeliard 304

ryutaro's mama 283
Count Dookkake 267
Combine 248
Expendable. 217
PhoncipleBone 206
Somnia 206

Thats:
- 16 posters with over 200 posts
- 10 posters with over 300 posts
- 6 posters with over 500 posts
- 3 posters with over 700 posts
- 1 Sculli with over 1000 posts

I'd say there are plenty of us looking very much forward to Avatar 2. Cameron's sequels are always godly.
 
Every time I see this thread bumped by Sculli I think of jeff_rigby endlessly bumping the PS3 internet browser thread over in Gaming.

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(Not at all hard to find seeing as he last posted in it yesterday.)

Only it's far less annoying because this thread is actually interesting. :p
 
TacticalFox88 said:
Damn, I feel like, Sculi, Dead, Solo, and I are the only ones hyped for the sequels. We're the only ones posting here. lol

I'm totally hyped but it's a long way off. Gotta pace yourself. Also, I kind of soaked up too much stuff in the lead up to Avatar - watching all the youtube features, reading all the reviews etc. I will try to go in as cold as possible for 2 and 3. Would love to be able know next to nothing about them except the release date and where the nearest IMAX showing is.
 
So when are they planning to shoot these? With an X-mas 2014 date for the first one, I would tend to think mid-2012 would have to be the start of principal photography.
 
I threw it in the other day after it got some digs in this shit movies that 'get you' thread, still pretty incredible.

And I'm very excited for A2/3, there's just very little to talk about.
 
PrivateWHudson said:
I just looked back, and my predictions were:

$720million domestic and $1.6billion ww. Do either of those stand a chance?

I stumbled upon this post, from December 31st 2009. Nostradamus reborn confirmed.
 
jett said:
I stumbled upon this post, from December 31st 2009. Nostradamus reborn confirmed.

I love that the person who had the most ridiculous and closest bet out of anybody was still more than a billion dollars off the WW.
 
Solo said:
Thats:
- 16 posters with over 200 posts
- 10 posters with over 300 posts
- 6 posters with over 500 posts
- 3 posters with over 700 posts
- 1 Sculli with over 1000 posts

I'd say there are plenty of us looking very much forward to Avatar 2. Cameron's sequels are always godly.

I feel like I posted more than that. I guess I was too busy watching the film in theaters =)

Listened to the soundtrack on my way to work the other day again, been awhile. Ended up watching the movie when I got home (first time in awhile)...movie is still so fucking beautiful. Can't wait for casting news on the 2nd/3rd.

edit: Also the making of on the extended edition is great. Love the detail they go into about the process they took to make the film.
 
Scullibundo said:
I love that the person who had the most ridiculous and closest bet out of anybody was still more than a billion dollars off the WW.

It's still crazy that Cameron came around and beat his own record by around a billion. It's crazy to think that the closest movie to beat Titanic other than Avatar right now is at 1.18 billion and still needs to do another 600 million to beat Titanic and then another billion to beat Avatar.
 
jett said:
I stumbled upon this post, from December 31st 2009. Nostradamus reborn confirmed.

Haha went and looked back at my old Avatar posts to see if I had a box office pred. This is from the Comic-Con '09 thread where there was so much hand-wringing over Fox's lack of marketing:

Zeliard said:
I really don't think it's as a big a deal as you and others are making it seem. We all desperately want to see a trailer, but the "general public" will go see if based solely on it being a rare James Cameron film, and the pretty 3D visuals. They aren't that hard to appease. It probably would not have hurt if they had started marketing it earlier, but I don't think it's necessary other than to appease people like us.

Again, I'm having a very difficult time seeing this movie struggling at the box office. It's going to be gigantic. Is it going to be good? That's what remains to be seen, and that's the big question mark at this point.

Solo said:
Box office wise, who is saying that? I dont think even Sculli is that crazy to think it will hit $400M. Hell, $300M domestic seems high.

Cheebs said:
Then Cameron is off in this too. He can't sell a movie to the masses based on his name, they don't know who he is. Titanic itself sold it as well as the actors. Not Cameron's name. Plus it's sci-fi. Sci-Fi isn't something the masses will run too. Unless it is from a franchise they already are familiar with. Plus no big name stars. It really needs massive marketing to sell it.

Even if we magically get a trailer this week it doesn't excuse the fact we should have gotten one MONTHS ago. Attached to one of the big May blockbusters. We've got trailers for 2010 movies already!

Tobor said:
Outside of movie geek circles there is 0 hype for this. None whatsoever. I could walk around my office and be lucky to find 1 person out of 50 who have ever heard of it.

This movie needs marketing, stat. Break out the jaws of life and rescue this movie, Fox. The patient isn't breathing.

Zeliard said:
Buncha pessimists. :D

If the movie does live up to the hype and sets a new standard for film-making tech, people will go see it in droves even if they have no idea what it is right now. These sorts of huge tech undertakings are often seen as a big can't-miss event, ala Jurassic Park.

If it's your typical 3D movie, then I'd agree that it may not do that well. If it's something more, it will be huge. It isn't just Cameron's name that will do it, but even moreso the type of movie it potentially is.

I'll eat some crow if it bombs at the box office. I just really don't see that happening.

heh :P
 
Mission: accomplished. Some 600 days since I last saw the movie, and 9 months since I bought the Blu-ray, I finally watched it.

I watched the entire Capturing Avatar doc - what a great feature that is a rather nicely tied up package of the entire production. As for the deleted scenes, they really should have left The Hunt Festival in there. It was great to see Tsu'sey warm up a bit to Jake, and Ney'tiri getting to have fun and dance was something they should have left in the film.

As for the movie itself: goddamn, I fell in love with it all over again. It's just a hair short of 3 hours long but I'll be damned if it has a wasted scene in it. The whole thing is engaging from start to breathless finish. The first flight sequence was as joyous and exhilirating as I'd remembered it being. That final action sequence once again just knocked by balls off. The added scenes worked wonderfully. And almost 2 years later, the effects still left my mouth agap. How did they manage to do it? Jesus christ. Whenever Neytiri has a close-up (particularly ones featuring wind blowing, or fire in the background, or warpaint on her face, or sweat/tears on her face), that is some next level shit the likes of which I can't see being topped until Cameron himself does it with the sequel. The scene where she drinks water from the plant was worth the Oscar alone.

Finally, the Blu-ray. Holy fuck. I now have a new reference audio presentation and transfer for Blu-ray. Pristine on both fronts, with the transfer particular inducing eyegasms about every 30 seconds. Dat glorious Avatar Blu-ray!
 
That was a long time coming.

I've not seen it for a while at this point, tempted to throw it in right now. I've still never seen the medium length cut I think.
 
Indeed it was! Never again shall I have a backlog. Shit's tiring to get through. I have to keep myself away from Amazon on Black Friday this year.
 
With being really disappointed by the trailers for Tintin, I've been more tempted than ever to buy a 3DTV to watch Avatar again. I've not quite convinced myself yet, but the 3DS isn't helping my restraint.

My film backlog is about twenty/thirty films. I tend to rewatch films more than I watch new ones for some reason. I just ordered Black Swan on BluRay and I've already seen it twice, I could have saved the money and watched something new. I like the comfort of knowing a film will be good I guess.
 
CaptYamato said:
Backlogs suck. I have like 20 films I need to see.

Yes though do. Took me 10 months to get through mine, which I just finally did. Now I will gladly go back to only having the game/movie I am about to play/watch in my queue.
 
you guys mention movie backlogs, I saw avatar in the theatre and enjoyed it enough to grab that barebones release the week it came to bluray. I still haven't watched it. Along with about 30 other blurays , most of which I've seen theatrically.

I've kind of been in the mood to watch it some days and then I recall how long it is and do something else instead.
 
Solo said:
Yes though do. Took me 10 months to get through mine, which I just finally did. Now I will gladly go back to only having the game/movie I am about to play/watch in my queue.

How many was on your list? I went through 70 movies this summer break.
 
Good to hear, dude.

Did you check out all the deleted scenes Solo? Especially The Dream Hunt?

Most importantly though, get around to watching the individual documentaries outside of the Capturing Avatar - where they take you through shit like testing out the weapons (Cameron firing them live etc.)
 
Solo, What did you think of the dream hunt deleted scene?

Between that, the festival, Parker vs quaritch, and Neytiri going berserk, the extended cut really should have been closer to 200 min.
 
The Dream Hunt was kind of underwhelming after your guys' praise. Hunt Festival > Dream Hunt. And yeah, I watched those individual ones too.

Oh, something else I meant to say before I forgot: it really occurred to me this time, and I really appecriate that it is the case, but here is the rare $200M+ budget movie where you can actually see every last cent up on the screen.
 
Solo said:
What is disappointing about Tintin for you, Stuburns?
Just the visual direction really, I think they're pretty much dancing in the uncanny valley from the little I've seen. Although that could be premature, maybe after a few minutes it'd be fine, but the times when I've had that as an issue, it's always been a pretty consistent thing.
 
Absolutely. Which is why I'm aching to see the projected budgets for the sequels.

Anyway, one deleted sequence that I love that doesn't get much mention is the extended suit up for war on the human side - 'Kick Some Blue Ass.' Absolutely the kind of thing I would have loved to stay in. Otherwise 'A long way from Earth' and - as you mentioned - The Hunt Festival.

And yeah, the alternate death of Waynefleet with Neytiri going apeshit was much better than his 'AHHHHH!' death in the film.

Oh oh - and the alternate montage was better I thought. Some nice pieces of music in there.
 
Another one I liked which the theatrical cut didn't really even hint at was the quick one where all the scientists were taking control of their avatars to help Jake and Co. Had no idea that was happening in the theatrical cut.
 
Yeah. The full cut of the film should have been 3.5h. Everything else can remain cut out.

A part of me kinda wishes that the ISV leaving orbit was in the extended cut. The shot looked finished.
 
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