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Being a Lucina (secondary) main is suffering. 
Roy (our boy) & Ryu confirmed for Smash Bros
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"Oh but guys, she totally has reduced landing lag! She totally has a lot more knockback on everything! She looks like Melee Marth! Best girl. RIP Marth. They should have replaced Marth."
Funny how that all worked out.
It's fun remembering the crazy comments of early smash.
Dat Fsmash tho...
SporeCrawler
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Dont forget the years before
- sonic black knight
- sonic heroes
- shadow
- sonic unleashed
- sonic 2006
Id put lost world in the good game category but i know some will disagree
BJ Blazkowicz has been getting some pretty good character development lately.
An armored shield breaker would be wonderful.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Ahahahahah!
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So you don't want the face of fighting games for not being Nintendo appropriate... but you want a buff dude wrapped in leather that whips bloody undead creatures.
Blame Sakurai for half-assing it. Each of those characters could be unique if he actually cared to do so.
I remember that one gif of the autocanceling nair everyone posted."Oh but guys, she totally has reduced landing lag! She totally has a lot more knockback on everything! She looks like Melee Marth! Best girl. RIP Marth. They should have replaced Marth."
Funny how that all worked out.
A memorial to commemorate his noble sacrifice ;-;
Zomba13
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Yup. When she was announced I though "Oh, alternate costume! That's cool." like how Villager has female ones and little Mac has the hoody. Then she was a seperate character and I thought "Oh... Ok. Maybe she is like Lucas where she has some different moves?" And then nope, exactly the same except even damage on the sword instead of the tip doing the most.
And now with Roy, where we have another clone just with fire element attacks and explosion on his B and he's DLC it's just... Yeah.. Maybe if they changed the characters up I'd be ok with it, then they'd be like Lucas and Ness where they share a base but are different even in the moves that are the same, the have different properties.
Super hyped for Ryu though and his stage. Hope he has Ken, Akuma and Dan alt colours.
Red Arremer
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Unleashed and Heroes were pretty decent, I definitely enjoyed Heroes. Not amazingly great, but definitely not garbage. Shadow wasn't all that bad either (though that might just be a guilty pleasure of mine), people just love to hate on it being "edgy". 2006 was trash but at least it is hilariously glitchy; one of the most entertaining speedruns to watch.
Never played Black Knight.
Askherserenity
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Why would anyone be mad at Ryu making it? Street Fighter not an important enough franchise for you guys?
Ryu is a fucking awesome pick.
Ryu is a fucking awesome pick.
Baron von Loathsome
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Ōkami;167654091 said:
We're getting Heihachi from Tekken alongside Akira and Jacky.
kunonabi
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and? I'm sure there are loads of games that were more succesful then those. That doesn't change the fact that Castlevania has been a bigger part of Nintendo's history for longer than almost any other third party franchise.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
also don't spiral out on this thread or the direct thread guys, don't get it locked
SporeCrawler
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Well i would love nintendo vs capcom proper (sora x mvc team)
This game has over 40 completely unique characters and fewer than 10 clones/derivations. That's very impressive for a fighting game. You'll never be taken seriously for implying that Sakurai is lazy.
Metalingus5150
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Nintendo fans can be close minded sometimes.
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Zen_Arcade
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I'm saying Ryu was a small part of Street Fighter and isn't as recognizable as Mega Man. The same way that a solo artist is probably more well known then the lead singers of a lot of bands, even though said band may be more popular as a group then the solo artist is.
I also just said that I wouldn't put Mega man on the Mt Rushmore either, so I dont even know where your last paragraph is coming from.
But if I had to pick one or the other, I think more people would know who Mega Man is then Ryu, because Ryu was a part of a group of characters. I was never arguing about if Street Fighter was more influential then Mega Man or not. I was arguing on a character by character basis.
Professor Lich
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Shouldn't Gaming Mount Rushmore have Pong on it before anyone else?
Ryu looks cool, hope we get more fighters from other games.
Ryu looks cool, hope we get more fighters from other games.
oh god, dem BOOTS
Both Marth and Lucina are dumpster characters imo. Marth is a bit better but only in killing power.
I really gotta hear SmashGAF's impressions on Roy if I'm dropping $5 bucks for him. Still on the fence about him. Ryu and Lucas all day though!
Who wouldn't wan't this power?
Smash jokes always on point.
Finale Fireworker
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Yeah. Some Nintendo fans are really... xenophobic, for lack of a better word.
"Oh but guys, she totally has reduced landing lag! She totally has a lot more knockback on everything! She looks like Melee Marth! Best girl. RIP Marth. They should have replaced Marth."
Funny how that all worked out.
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Battlesmurf
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No going to disagree, though I have to say Viewtiful Joe would have been an amazing fit.
The Hermit
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Holy crap I didnt though about that
uuuuhhhh....
crabhammer
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Yeah, but isn't that the vast majority of the smash roster? My mom actually plays some video games but I guarantee you she'd have no idea who the following are:
Ness, Captain Falcon, Fox, Falco, Lucas, any of the fire emblem characters, Shulk, Dark Pit, Palutena, Pit, Rosalina, any of the post gen 1 pokemon, Olimar, Shiek, Ganondorf, Lil Mac
So lets axe all of those while we're at it!
Listen guys, here's what up in my opinion: of the three upcoming DLC characters currently known Ryu is the MOST popular of them all by a fucking LONG SHOT. So if popularity of the character is is your metric for worthiness then why are you mad about Ryu?
LOL
Red Arremer
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He doesn't, only his SF2 alt colors.
SporeCrawler
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A lot more people know who snake is compared to marth, palutena or olimar
Baron von Loathsome
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Why do you think third-party games don't sell on Nintendo platforms?
At the very least, there's a link
of the non-Hylian variety
Her fsmash makes her a semi viable character in my opinion. She's a worse Marth, but she has one of the best fsmashes in the game
Im not one to shit on people's fave characters (people shit on my fave character, Jigglypuff, enough), so im not going to call Roy shitty, but it's weird you call Ryu more boring. If i were to pick a character to return, i would have picked Wolf, because he is more different from his base than Roy is, and Marth already has a clone, a 3rd clone is deffinitely more boring than Ryu, even if he has over exposure.
And i don't think people should complain that we get 3rd party characters instead of first party, because when we get down to it, 3rd party characters come from partnerships and cross promotion with other companies, so they're extras to any potential future first party character, so there is still chances for chorus boys and stuff.
I understand being excited for your fave character to return, even if he's Marth the 3rd, but it just weird to call Ryu "boring".
Not to mention he opened the flood gates for the possibility of additional sega or namco characters now that there is the precedent of more than one 3rd party from the same company. That's exciting.
It has done wonders for them, I bet...
Deputy Moonman
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Ahh I see. Yeah I have not been keeping up with anything, so my ignorance was showing. Thanks for the clarification =)
Zen_Arcade
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I don't know why everyone is assuming that me saying that Ryu isn't one of the top four most recognisable video game characters means that he doesn't deserve to be in Smash. I didn't say anything of the sort. They're two different conversations.
I am a bit surprised with some of the negative reaction to both Ryu and Roy :l.
Ryu represents a massive shift in the gaming world in the form of Street Fighter II; that game established the foundation for many, many future fighting games and it cemented the series as an important milestone in gaming. Not to mention, like others here pointed out, the many versions of SFII sold very well on Nintendo platforms and SFIV's 3DS port sold really well at the systems launch. The series has a place with Nintendo and to me personally, fits a lot more within the Smash-verse then Solid Snake ever did; a few NES games and a remake/port of the original MGS on the GC....and a 3DS port of MGS3....and that's it :l.
Roy is in a similar spot like Mewtwo and Lucas; a cut character that many missed, so bringing him back is not only for the fans of Smash but is also very easy to make (as they don't have to do that much in bringing him into Smash 4; porting over assests/movement/animations/ect from Melee and Brawl). Granted, we already got a 'clone' of Marth through Lucina but Roy has differences (even if isn't that much :l).
Either way, really excited about this news and while I would have liked others to join the roster (Chors Kids would have been cool, Ice Climbers would have been a nice return, Eggman would be really interesting with his moveset, Shantae and Shovel Knight would have been great reps for Nintendo's Indie Partners
), I am buying the DLC cast the moment they launch 
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Ryu represents a massive shift in the gaming world in the form of Street Fighter II; that game established the foundation for many, many future fighting games and it cemented the series as an important milestone in gaming. Not to mention, like others here pointed out, the many versions of SFII sold very well on Nintendo platforms and SFIV's 3DS port sold really well at the systems launch. The series has a place with Nintendo and to me personally, fits a lot more within the Smash-verse then Solid Snake ever did; a few NES games and a remake/port of the original MGS on the GC....and a 3DS port of MGS3....and that's it :l.
Roy is in a similar spot like Mewtwo and Lucas; a cut character that many missed, so bringing him back is not only for the fans of Smash but is also very easy to make (as they don't have to do that much in bringing him into Smash 4; porting over assests/movement/animations/ect from Melee and Brawl). Granted, we already got a 'clone' of Marth through Lucina but Roy has differences (even if isn't that much :l).
Either way, really excited about this news and while I would have liked others to join the roster (Chors Kids would have been cool, Ice Climbers would have been a nice return, Eggman would be really interesting with his moveset, Shantae and Shovel Knight would have been great reps for Nintendo's Indie Partners
), I am buying the DLC cast the moment they launch .
I tire of so many characters that only use their fists and feet.
No seriously, why is this a complaint? There's 50+ characters and only about a less than a 5th use swords and damn near completely differently (bar Marth/Lucina/and probably Roy). The complaint that I see that can even remotely agree with is the fact that there are way too many Mario characters.
Ryu was worth it just for this.
Source: http://inkerton-kun.tumblr.com/post/121430306402/hes-making-new-friends
Source: http://inkerton-kun.tumblr.com/post/121430306402/hes-making-new-friends
Baron von Loathsome
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Fixed that for you
I'd imagine that "sometimes" implies the same thing anyway.
Storm Kyleis
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Dumb question since I got Mewtwo for free:
Do I have to buy the characters separately for 3DS and Wii U?
Do I have to buy the characters separately for 3DS and Wii U?
Yeah but we're talking 3rd party.
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