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Was it just me, or was the Cena vs. Orton match one of the worst ones they have had if not the worst. This is including that Summerslam match where Orton won because of the other DiBiase interference.
 
EnVy_CaLiBeR said:
After tonight, HHH and Vince will be in overdrive mode trying to bury Bryan. Tonight was embarrassing and Bryan's pop had the crowd booing the guy that they've hyped for weeks. Hilarious stuff but the burial is coming.
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We are past the point were you could bury him to inconsequential. This is not Zack Ryder we are talking about.

No one since Rock or Austin has been able to have a crowd as hot as Bryan does when he is in the ring.
 
Professor Beef said:
And I will admit that Kane has gotten in much better shape.
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He's been in amazing shape for the vast majority of his career. The man is nearly 47 years old. The WWE, under HHH, will never give him any credit, but he's better right now than anyone else his age or older, and most guys younger.
 
EnVy_CaLiBeR said:
After tonight, HHH and Vince will be in overdrive mode trying to bury Bryan. Tonight was embarrassing and Bryan's pop had the crowd booing the guy that they've hyped for weeks. Hilarious stuff but the burial is coming.
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Don't worry. Bryan will get beat down by the Wyatts tomorrow, only for Cena to make the save! Then in the tag matches, Bryan will be the face in peril AND job. KA-CHING!
 
thepotatoman said:
I don't follow WWE much anymore except for reading summaries, I bought this PPV thinking this would be the payoff for almost of year of supposedly keyfabe Daniel Brian screw jobs, and was planning to get the WWE network to at least watch the PPVs, but I guess my expectations were too high for this company. I really don't know where the payoff is supposed to be for Bryan's rage against the machine.
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There is no payoff.
There was never going to be a payoff.
At least not in a match of consequence.

RAW's ending from a couple weeks back was the closest you'll get to a payoff.

You were a fool if you gave the WWE your money expecting otherwise.
They will now use your money to market Big Dave. Enjoy!

Professor Beef said:
So I guess were going to see most of you tomorrow night? Same RAW time, same RAW channel?
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You know me. I don't watch RAW. I pop onto WrassleGAF during RAW to trash the product.
If there's a good match, I'll check it out on YouTube afterwards.
 
Here's what you guys don't get about Bryan. People love him but they won't spend the money on him so he doesn't get the push. Little kids are out there buying Cena shirts and Batista pops the big rating. That's where WWE is looking towards. People that bring in the money either in advertising or merch. Pretty simple.

Not saying it's the right mentality at all or anything. Just saying that WWE believes in their stars making the money to go along with their push. They don't want to push someone they don't think will bring in as much money as other guys.

Ithil said:
I thought it was all part of the angle? You're changing your claim fast.
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I never said it was angle leading to Bryan being a top guy. He might get a win over Triple H at Backlash or Extreme Rules to blow off the Authority angle. But Roman Reigns will be headlining Wrestlemania in the next year or two.
 
Son Of D said:
On the plus side. Imagine if Bryan was in the Rumble but got eliminated by Batista. That crowd would have destroyed Dave.
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They should've used that heat on Sheamus and turned him heel like he desperately needs.

That way there was someone to blame for it, have Baptista eliminate Sheamus to give him some goodwill.

This way they just killed the crowd and gave the heat to Baptista, the big face that's going to main-event Mania.

I've never seen a crowd die so quickly. It was a stupid move.
 
Master Thespian said:
At least with Reigns, it makes sense. He's full-time, young, good looking, and is exciting in a Goldberg kind of way in the ring. He's gonna be HUGE when he learns how to work the mic a bit better (although I think he might be off to Hollywood with the Rock soon enough).


And at least the Rock was the second biggest name of the AE and the biggest movie star on the planet right now. Batista doesn't move the needle like the Rock or Lesnar do, so why bother?
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you know what I think Roman is going to hollywood too he's way to handsome to be in WWE for long it's bound to happen
 
The Silver said:
Also Undertaker
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Dunno, it would be a toss up... Everyone expects Taker to come back at some point for WM though... He is so over its not funny, however i dunno would have to see it and see how people take it. Austin just cause no one has seen him in a WWE ring for ages, Sting well he is sting.
 
UberTag said:
There is no payoff.
There was never going to be a payoff.
At least not in a match of consequence.

RAW's ending from a couple weeks back was the closest you'll get to a payoff.

You were a fool if you gave the WWE your money expecting otherwise.
They will now use your money to market Big Dave. Enjoy!
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I'm sorry #8thedream didn't happen. We can take solace in the fact that it should have happened though.
 
JesseEwiak said:
They're building a new draw. His name is Roman Reigns. Expect him to do all the things you want Bryan to do.
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Because they are behind him. You build stars by protecting them and putting a rocket behind them and book them well for a long period of time.

The Rock and Stone Cold weren't created right away. They were built over time to create stars. Bryan has never been given that. His push to Summerslam was telling how small he is and how he doesn't deserve it. Then after that he was booked like crap and never got his revenge yet. The people want him to have the title and the WWE won
t let him have it.

Good luck because the crowd will shit this at WrestleMania then the next two pay per views are at Seattle and Chicago.
 
Shark Johnson said:
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RYDER!
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UberTag said:
I bet they continually troll Zack by telling him he's going to be on cards and then say, "Whoops, we had a change of plans at the last second" minutes beforehand. He's probably working out his 4-5 minute sequence in the Rumble right now and all of the guys are humoring him - knowing all the while he's going to be replaced by Kevin Nash or something.
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Vince McMahon said:
It's definitely the IWC getting worked though, it's being done on purpose and we're all reacting exactly like they want.
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Unlikely. It's just the typical stagnation you get with nepotism. Nothing more. There's no work.

If they had shareholders to answer too I'd imagine things would be wildly different.
 
JesseEwiak said:
Here's what you guys don't get about Bryan. People love him but they won't spend the money on him so he doesn't get the push. Little kids are out there buying Cena shirts and Batista pops the big rating. That's where WWE is looking towards. People that bring in the money either in advertising or merch. Pretty simple.
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If you were a parent, would you get your kid a shirt with words like "Never Give Up" or "Fear the Beard"? I thought so.
 
somedevil said:
Because they are behind him. You build stars by protecting them and putting a rocket behind them and book them well for a long period of time.

The Rock and Stone Cold weren't created right away. They were built over time to create stars. Bryan has never been given that. His push to Summerslam was telling how small he is and how he doesn't deserve it. Then after that he was booked like crap and never got his revenge yet. The people want him to have the title and the WWE won
t let him have it.

Good luck because the crowd will shit this at WrestleMania then the next two pay per views are at Seattle and Chicago.
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Indeed. They like Roman Reigns. They see Daniel Bryan as a good hand, but they see Roman Reigns as the next Cena.

Yes, they may be booing, but if half of them are kids buying $100 worth of John Cena merchandise, the WWE still wins.
 
kiguel182 said:
They should've used that heat on Sheamus and turned him heel like he desperately needs.

That way there was someone to blame for it, have Baptista eliminate Sheamus to give him some goodwill.

This way they just killed the crowd and gave the heat to Baptista, the big face that's going to main-event Mania.

I've never seen a crowd die so quickly. It was a stupid move.
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If they keep the storylines as is, I think Bork will be FACE and Brotista Heel for snooze fest championship match at WM.
 
The Incarnation said:
Unlikely. It's just the typical stagnation you get with nepotism. Nothing more. There's no work.

If they had shareholders to answer too I'd imagine things would be wildly different.
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they do, they're publicly traded
 
JesseEwiak said:
Here's what you guys don't get about Bryan. People love him but they won't spend the money on him so he doesn't get the push. Little kids are out there buying Cena shirts and Batista pops the big rating. That's where WWE is looking towards. People that bring in the money either in advertising or merch. Pretty simple.

Not saying it's the right mentality at all or anything. Just saying that WWE believes in their stars making the money to go along with their push. They don't want to push someone they don't think will bring in as much money as other guys.



I never said it was angle leading to Bryan being a top guy. He might get a win over Triple H at Backlash or Extreme Rules to blow off the Authority angle. But Roman Reigns will be headlining Wrestlemania in the next year or two.
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The huge Raw rating for Batista's return was just because it was his return. It's not going to sustain at that level, or even near it. This is common sense. Remember what happened with The Rock? He put up some insane Raw numbers at the start and then faded. Batista couldn't hold Rock's jockstrap when it comes to stardom so the drop for him is going to be much bigger. Tomorrow's Raw will probably have another big number but not because of Batista, but because of the fallout.
 
He does draw money!! The other day WWE offered refunds to fans when Bryan had his concussion. Vince is pissed he got over on his own, and that he dosent fit the WWE prototype.
 
awful, awful PPV.

Bryan vs Bray was good.

Bork vs Show made me want my money back. Cena vs Orton? ok. because that shit wasn't old back in 2006

and then the rumble.

Only good thing was Reigns. A garbage wrestler in his prime comes back because he has to promote his movie wins the rumble, because..?

This is why Bryan, Reigns, Bray, etc. won't have success. They need to be in a major film or they'll just be stuck being nothing.
 
JesseEwiak said:
Here's what you guys don't get about Bryan. People love him but they won't spend the money on him so he doesn't get the push. Little kids are out there buying Cena shirts and Batista pops the big rating. That's where WWE is looking towards. People that bring in the money either in advertising or merch. Pretty simple.

Not saying it's the right mentality at all or anything. Just saying that WWE believes in their stars making the money to go along with their push. They don't want to push someone they don't think will bring in as much money as other guys.
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Baptista pops ratings because he was a big star that's returning.

If Hogan returns this monday the ratings will increase, does that mean Hogan should get the belt? No, it doesn't.

Baptista was made a star by winning the Rumble and defeating HHH at Mania for the title. Bryan wasn't even in the Rumble and is the most over star they have. How can they expect him to performe like the other guys that are protected as hell?

This is just short term booking. At least they are trying to build Reigns and hopefully don't give up on him. But what they are doing to Bryan is insulting for an audience that's behind him every single week.

Of course he can't increase viewership only by himself, he is there every week. The company needs to get behind him like they did with Baptista and Cena.

This isn't what's best for business and hopefully the audiences will respond against this.
 
Vestal said:
We are past the point were you could bury him to inconsequential. This is not Zack Ryder we are talking about.

No one since Rock or Austin has been able to have a crowd as hot as Bryan does when he is in the ring.
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They're still going to try to halt that momentum somehow. It'll be a process, but Vince/HHH will make it happen. lol
 
Heavy said:
The huge Raw rating for Batista's return was just because it was his return. It's not going to sustain at that level, or even near it. This is common sense. Remember what happened with The Rock? He put up some insane Raw numbers at the start and then faded. Batista couldn't hold Rock's jockstrap when it comes to stardom so the drop for him is going to be much bigger. Tomorrow's Raw will probably have another big number but not because of Batista, but because of the fallout.
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Yes, I know that. I'm not saying it's right long term. I'm just saying they aren't doing this because they hate Daniel Bryan. They just prefer the guaranteed money over the risk.
 
JesseEwiak said:
Here's what you guys don't get about Bryan. People love him but they won't spend the money on him so he doesn't get the push. Little kids are out there buying Cena shirts and Batista pops the big rating. That's where WWE is looking towards. People that bring in the money either in advertising or merch. Pretty simple.

Not saying it's the right mentality at all or anything. Just saying that WWE believes in their stars making the money to go along with their push. They don't want to push someone they don't think will bring in as much money as other guys.

I never said it was angle leading to Bryan being a top guy. He might get a win over Triple H at Backlash or Extreme Rules to blow off the Authority angle. But Roman Reigns will be headlining Wrestlemania in the next year or two.
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Would you like to provide any proof for all of this shit? Because on one side you've got arenas for shows booing them not pushing Bryan. On your side, you've got yourself making troll statements.

You want to make comment along the lines of Batista popping rating whilst ignoring those rating were actually for Bryan coming off of the hottest RAW in years and depleting once he said his shit whilst Batista went on to interfere in a Del Rio match.

What grounds exactly are you making these statements where you prove everybody are idiots off of?
 
like what this guy said on another forum
I'm surprised it took me this long to figure it out. WWE legit does not care about the fans one bit.

They force people into the main event that people usually don't want to see.

They refuse to push people that the fans want to see.

The entire company revolves around the Breakfast Club of Triple H, Orton, Cena, and now Batista.

They make merchandise ACKNOWLEDGING that some fans complain about their product.

They also acknowledge that the face of their company gets boo'ed on a weekly bases, and try to cover it up as "oh well, he gets a reaction."

They dick-tease fans by starting to push people that they actually like, but then yank the rug from underneath them and making them into just another wrestler.

They are okay with their Royal Rumble winner getting boo'd out of the building.

They constantly put on matches like Orton/Cena when they know the crowd doesn't want to see that anymore.

And worst of all, they ignore the reactions the crowds give and do whatever they want.

It is NOT just the internet wrestling community anymore. They disrespect their ENTIRE fan base. Those 15,000+ people out there boo'ing Batista as he won the Rumble, I'm sure were not all "internet geeks."

We mean nothing. We are all just another dollar in Vince's pocket.

And we have to deal with it.
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the truth lol
 
SquashMatch said:
He does draw money!! The other day WWE offered refunds to fans when Bryan had his concussion. Vince is pissed he got over on his own, and that he dosent fit the WWE prototype.
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It's so hard to poll and if WWE won't let him prove himself, they can claim he doesn't draw for ages.

He doesn't move merch, BECAUSE HIS ONLY SHIRT IS FEAR THE BEARD.

His yes-shirt fucking sold! But of course his shit-shirt doesn't, IT IS SHIT!

He could draw if they booked him strong and didn't bury him the whole time. A barber would help too.
 
Heavy said:
The huge Raw rating for Batista's return was just because it was his return. It's not going to sustain at that level, or even near it. This is common sense. Remember what happened with The Rock? He put up some insane Raw numbers at the start and then faded. Batista couldn't hold Rock's jockstrap when it comes to stardom so the drop for him is going to be much bigger. Tomorrow's Raw will probably have another big number but not because of Batista, but because of the fallout.
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I bet most people who watched the Rumble and were incensed by it will be here tomorrow for Raw.

Aiii said:
It's so hard to poll and if WWE won't let him prove himself, they can claim he doesn't draw for ages.

He doesn't move merch, BECAUSE HIS ONLY SHIRT IS FEAR THE BEARD.

His yes-shirt fucking sold! But of course his shit-shirt doesn't, IT IS SHIT!

He could draw if they booked him strong and didn't bury him the whole time. A barber would help too.
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But at whose expense, and what are their merch numbers?
 
Daniel Bryan beating the undertaker is all I have left to hang my hat on.

Also the Wyatt's helping Orton after he buried them 20 mins earlier was horrible logic. Why would Orton even bring up Bray in the promo.
 
mercenar1e said:
Wrestlemania

Punk vs Kane
Daniel Bryan vs Triple H
Undertaker vs Roman Reigns (or Lesnar)
Orton vs Batista
Bray Wyatt vs Brock Lesnar?
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Punk and Kane at EC leading to Punk and Trips at WM.

I wish it was:
Lesnar (WWE champ) vs Bryan
Undertaker vs Cena
CM Punk vs Triple H
Batista vs Orton
Ambrose (IC/US champ) vs Rollins vs Reigns
With Sheamus, Wyatt, Big E, Ziggler, and Cesaro all getting something good to do as well.
 
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