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Rugby World Cup 2015 |OT|

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Doc_Drop

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Yes. Only supporting Aus because it's good for our table standing.

Disgraceful but understandable. You'll make it, but you'll be calling up the reserves in the late stages. Unfortunately after last week I can't fight the desire to see you guys crash and burn in the latter stages
 

Griss

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That first half flew by. Great game of rugby so far.

Just a shame it's not closer. This could get ugly. If England come back it'll go down in history.

Agreed. They are just so fast with the ball. Constantly running and hitting to get those extra few meters.

By contrast England's timing is all off in the back line. Not hitting the ball at speed, dropping passes - they've had some good moves but far too much disorganisation leading to too many errors.
 

Clegg

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What's making this good as the intensity of the Australian play.

England have wilted as that half went in and we're starting to make stupid unenforced errors. Pressure is starting to tell.
 

Doc_Drop

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Just a shame it's not closer. This could get ugly. If England come back it'll go down in history.

If we do, my Australian extended family would never speak to me again. After the last few World Cups and the recent Ashes I have given them a metric tonne of shit. I did have to witness the MCG Boxing Day test live during the 5-0 whitewash tho..
 
I'll be honest, I don't think I'll ever understand the rules at scrum time (collapsing etc.)' I think I've called every single one wrong during that half.
 

Doc_Drop

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I'll be honest, I don't think I'll ever understand the rules at scrum time (collapsing etc.)' I think I've called every single one wrong during that half.

Being someone who enjoys Rugby but never played, I find this does happen often to me and I get called out immediately by my mates
 

Griss

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I'll be honest, I don't think I'll ever understand the rules at scrum time (collapsing etc.)' I think I've called every single one wrong during that half.

I played prop for a bit and I never have any idea what the ref has called. I always wonder if the players know / are in total control of whether they avoid giving one away.
 

KingSnake

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I'll be honest, I don't think I'll ever understand the rules at scrum time (collapsing etc.)' I think I've called every single one wrong during that half.

Half of the referee's scrum calls didn't make sense anyhow. I haven't seen any other referee at this world cup making similar calls.
 

Omikaru

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Disgraceful but understandable. You'll make it, but you'll be calling up the reserves in the late stages. Unfortunately after last week I can't fight the desire to see you guys crash and burn in the latter stages
I feel filthy about supporting Australia too, but strange things happen in The Group of Death and you don't talk about it afterwards.
 

Clegg

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I don't get the point of Brad Barritt. He's there for defensive solidity at the centre, but it's not like he's an impassible wall. He's a good defender but nothing more. Was very poor against Wales last week in that. regard. He's a terrible carrier of the ball, makes no metres or gain line breaks, a poor passer of the ball with no creativity. He's a black hole. When you have a genuine talent like Jonathan Joseph at 13 it's criminal that you put a cart horse like Barritt as his centre partner. Give him a creative 12 or a gainline buster and he'd be a world beater. As it is he's making a great go of things but he can't do it all himself.
 
I played prop for a bit and I never have any idea what the ref has called. I always wonder if the players know / are in total control of whether they avoid giving one away.

The english loose head is causing all the problems. He keeps getting side on which is a pretty simple penalty. But he's getting side on because the Aussie scrum is pushing the rest of the english scrum around.
 

JP

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I always look as the two halves of a match as two separate matches as so much cab change from one half to the next.

Still have my money on Australia winning the championship as they're the only team that looks worthy of that so far. As a Welsh supporter an Australia win is what works for me although I'll be dreading what will happen next weekend, particularly with us being on second and third choice players already.

It's good to see that Joe Marler is finally getting called out for what he does in the scrum. Really not sure why it took so long and needed the press to get involved in it as it's a standard issue for him recently.
 
I played prop for a bit and I never have any idea what the ref has called. I always wonder if the players know / are in total control of whether they avoid giving one away.

Ditto but flank. The commentators say "that was a smart twist of the shoulders" and I just think "was it bollocks."

Aaahhhh come on England, come back and smash their disgusting balls off.
 

Doc_Drop

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I feel filthy about supporting Australia too, but strange things happen in The Group of Death and you don't talk about it afterwards.

As an Englishman, this is all I deal in. Hell, I'd support Germany in football for 95% of a World Cup if it meant a Cup final or win
 

kmag

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Half of the referee's scrum calls didn't make sense anyhow. I haven't seen any other referee at this world cup making similar calls.

The early push is fair enough, although it's rarely called as it's easy for one side to game by taking a mini step back on the engage, but pretty much everything else is entirely dependent on the refs positioning and his tendencies. This is ref is notorious for calling fouls at scrums.
 
I played prop for a bit and I never have any idea what the ref has called. I always wonder if the players know / are in total control of whether they avoid giving one away.

Being someone who enjoys Rugby but never played, I find this does happen often to me and I get called out immediately by my mates
Good to know I'm not alone, even amount players ha!

Half of the referee's scrum calls didn't make sense anyhow. I haven't seen any other referee at this world cup making similar calls.
That last one "Aussie prop has clearly collapsed there" - ref gives a penalty to England! Only one I got right was the early push which was obvious.
 

Clegg

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And my point about Barritt goes for Farrell too. He's a decent 10 for when your pack has control of the game. He kicks well from hand and kicks his goals. But he's not a playmaker. He doesn't have the ability to put his outside backs into space and for a fly half he takes contact far too much instead of looking to facilitate backplay. George Fors needs to come on. He's a genuine talent.
 

KingSnake

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The early push is fair enough, although it's rarely called as it's easy for one side to game by taking a mini step back on the engage, but pretty much everything else is entirely dependent on the refs positioning and his tendencies. This is ref is notorious for calling fouls at scrums.

English scrum almost never pushed forward, it's like the simplest and most often seen scrum penalty.
 

Bagerk

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Foley putting in a Matt Burke like performance here and hopefully putting a final nail in the coffin for Quade Coopers horrible career.
 
And my point about Barritt goes for Farrell too. He's a decent 10 for when your pack has control of the game. He kicks well from hand and kicks his goals. But he's not a playmaker. He doesn't have the ability to put his outside backs into space and for a fly half he takes contact far too much instead of looking to facilitate backplay. George Fors needs to come on. He's a genuine talent.
Ford is a football player, he's smart and has a great brain. No idea why England don't play him more, though as an Irishman I'm happy about it! Farrell is too by the numbers and a bit safe.
 

Doc_Drop

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Good to know I'm not alone, even amount players ha!

I had to spend roughly 5-10 years constantly asking my Dad questions while watching Union to even have a slight grasp, then rules change often. All I really took away from it was:-

As long as the ref is consistent, it's probably ok
 

Clegg

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Oh my god.

They've put on Ford but moved Joseph to the wing. These two play 10 and 13 together at club level and rip things up. Now they've a centre partnership of Barritt and Farrell. That's the worst pairing of all the major rugby nations.
 
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