AbsoluteZero
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StevieP said:
I want to high five you, I wish there were some way to.
Rumor: Xbox successor codename is "Ten". Expected release Holiday 2012.
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I want to high five you, I wish there were some way to.
nincompoop
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Bo Derek to become the next Xbox spokesperson?
bgassassin
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StevieP said:
I posed the idea in the Loop thread that maybe the APU and ARM cores are used together. This would line up with DICE talking about multiple processors.
AbsoluteZero
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cyberheater said:
"Everyone you know" is the qualifier here.
If you're part of the brogamer crowd that plays call of duty all day long I doubt that they were ever interested in Nintendo and never will be. You won't change their perception when there is none to be changed to begin with. As far as they're concerned Nintendo doesn't even exist.
Nuclear Muffin
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Holiday 2012 sounds completely insane. The rumours about them rushing R&D must be very true if that's the case (and if it is indeed the case, I would stay the hell away from the launch consoles! With what happened last time, there's no way that they'd get reliable consoles out in time!)
BTW, for those wondering, Paul Thurrott is about as trustworthy as a source gets when it comes to Microsoft.
BTW, for those wondering, Paul Thurrott is about as trustworthy as a source gets when it comes to Microsoft.
Smiles and Cries
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hmmmm, he hesitated for a long time thinking about the holiday next year it could be 2013 that he heard
Fallout-NL
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Yeah, the real question here is: who's brave enough to buy launch hardware this time around?
StevieP said:
Quoting again so you understand AMD makes a huge range of products. Nobody is calling AMDs notebook APUs shitty (except you). Did they fail spectacularly at a high end product (in power consumption)? Yes. But consoles never get the cutting edge desktop CPUs to begin with. That market segment is irrelevant to the topic at hand.
Dr. Zoidberg
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ghostmind said:
Not about the video game industry. While Paul is a certified CoD fanatic, he doesn't seem to understand the industry as a whole. The same can be said for Leo and almost all the TWiT panelists, who often get things painfully wrong for those of us listening at home that DO understand and follow these things. Occasionally on TWiT they will have a panelist on that actually knows something about video games but it's rare. 90% of the conversations every week are on social media and Apple.
Mr.Green said:
Call of Duty *is* a casual title. The definitions of casual have been twisted around this gen 177 different ways, mind you.
But why put ARM cores together with a multicore AMD APU (or multicore IBM CPU, if they flipflopped)
A bulldozer-based APU isn't out yet, so I can't make any kind of judgement. However, I can say with certainty that the people looking for massive technical leaps wouldn't be happy on AMD's current high-end APU.
H_Prestige
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Sucks for Nintendo if true.
Zombie James
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Nuclear Muffin said:
I can't believe Microsoft would make the same mistake twice. Didn't dealing with the RRoD issue cost them over $1B? No need to rush things.
Last Hearth
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I'm not remotely interesting in a next-gen console until I see games I'm interested in. And no, I don't care about Halo 4.
Nuclear Muffin
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Dr. Zoidberg said:
When it comes to Microsoft, he's pretty much always spot on. He does run http://www.winsupersite.com/ after all.
Graphics Horse
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StevieP said:
Well yes, there is that, assuming it's directly related.
The ARM rumour could roughly fit a potential microconsole-tv hub thingamy with xbOnlive support.
bgassassin
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StevieP said:
Increase the power without making it too hot would be my idea of that possible direction.
Father_Brain
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HocusPocus said:
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/Marketplace/Product/Halo-4
The Twilight Princess comparison just doesn't wash, by the way; when it was last publicly shown as a GC title (E3 2005, AFAIK), it was still slated to be released on GC that year. Nintendo, by all indications, didn't decide that they needed it for Wii launch until a few months later.
If the next Xbox is launching by the end of next year, Microsoft would have had to have planned on that launch timeframe before this past E3. Meaning that they flat-out lied about what platform Halo 4 was for, solely to cover up their plans to launch the next console by the end of 2012.
Is that inconceivable? No, but it is completely unprecedented. And pretty damn unlikely, IMO.
well if this is true, one has to wonder how much horsepower the new xbox will have compared to wii u, since they would probably release within 6 months of each other. Since Nintendo is rejoining the graphics race to some extent, the consoles should be pretty close in that regard, assuming that the 2012 rumour is true.
I would also expect a "gimmick" built into the new xbox, maybe an evolution of kinect or something. This would probably mean that they would have to scale back on the specs a bit, since they have to divide the cost between horsepower and the built in new feature.
I would also expect a "gimmick" built into the new xbox, maybe an evolution of kinect or something. This would probably mean that they would have to scale back on the specs a bit, since they have to divide the cost between horsepower and the built in new feature.
Proelite
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Maybe in order to rush out a new console they have to drop the SOC design and go with a traditional discrete design that dedicates more die space to CPU and GPU. Manufacturing costs would still be the same, but they would get more power for the buck but less potential for savings reduction. Fingers crossed.
Woffls
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Waiting for Tony Hawk to turn up at E3 2012 and some Microsoft exec will be all like "Hey, Tony. Hang ten. Amirite?" Then everyone from the West Coast is just gonna' cry their way out the conference.
I (dis)like the cloud theory that was mentioned. Seriously, if Ten is download only then I ain't buying one. It won't be, though, because that's dumb. Every game will be available for download, saves will go to the cloud, and profiles will (hopefully) be accessible from any console.
I (dis)like the cloud theory that was mentioned. Seriously, if Ten is download only then I ain't buying one. It won't be, though, because that's dumb. Every game will be available for download, saves will go to the cloud, and profiles will (hopefully) be accessible from any console.
H_Prestige
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Having Halo 4 as a launch title seems like a great strategy IMO. It's still a very popular series and something their competitors won't have.
FleckSplat
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cjelly said:
Fixed.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
All the conversations I've had makes me think it's 2013 just based on what I know is being planned for launch titles... but hey, the market may dictate drastic changes. Though I don't see that as realistic.
Proelite
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BeauRoger said:
Like I said time and time again, if MS is going for a 175-200 Watt console, and Nintendo is going for a 100 Watt console, it'll be pretty close. The recent rumors of Wii U devs kits using 4870 certainly places the Wii U at having a much higher power envelope than the Wii.
In addition, kinect will never get as performance intensive as streaming and rendering extra 853x480 pixels of graphics.
REMEMBER CITADEL
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So many tasty rumors, all batshit insane.
bgassassin
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StevieP said:
If you let DICE tell it, they got it covered.
StevieP said:
So how can you call it shitty? Llano is certainly not a shitty product. And whatever AMD is working on, it's going to be more impressive than that. And because it's a custom product for a specific customer, will have more emphasis on the GPU performance.
Anyone expecting MS to break past the 100 watt TDP is nuts and is going to be severely disappointed. But I still expect it to be significantly more powerful than what Nintendo is going to be rolling with.
thekad said:
Denial of the facts is the sole reason.
Although specs were supposed to leak in like July and developers seem to still be clueless on final specs. So hopefully they decided to kick things up a notch or two.
Whoa there buddy. Don't walk away from your hyperbole so quickly. CoD might not be as hardcore as Red Orchestra but I wouldn't say it's casual, let alone "as casual as Wii fucking Sports". You're confusing casual for popular here. I almost typed mass-market but I don't think the gaming industry is big enough for that yet.StevieP said:
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BeauRoger said:
I would love to see a seamless eco system between my PC running windows 8 and the next Xbox. Buy a game in my PC and I can play it on my Xbox. View files/pdfs/docs/movies/photos etc... easily with no setup on my Xbox from my PC. Record some gameplay and view it instantly on my PC.
Talk to my Xbox and it sends messages to my PC etc...
Unless 343 Industries somehow manage to have an EA-style annual update production line, and manage to knock out the new Halo trilogy in 3 years, Halo 5 and 6 will come out well into the 360's successors life span.
So either the new trilogy will be available on current and new Xbox from the get-go, or the latter games in the series certainly will. It could be that Halo 4, 5 and 6 will work like the upcoming CE Anniversary. The new Xbox would have a version that is same underlying game as the 360 version, but with a fancy 'next gen' graphical filter over top. The same code underneath could also allow for cross Xbox online gaming.
So either the new trilogy will be available on current and new Xbox from the get-go, or the latter games in the series certainly will. It could be that Halo 4, 5 and 6 will work like the upcoming CE Anniversary. The new Xbox would have a version that is same underlying game as the 360 version, but with a fancy 'next gen' graphical filter over top. The same code underneath could also allow for cross Xbox online gaming.
InaudibleWhispa
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He may have heard something but misinterpreted it. Perhaps he just heard that there is a major Xbox update coming next year called Project Ten (or Project X maybe?) and he assumed it's the next Xbox. He did seem a bit clueless about Xbox 360 + Kinect throughout that show. He states that the next Xbox is getting silverlight and strong connectivity between Windows 8 and Windows Phone, but that kinda stuff has been rumoured for the current 360 for a while (the upcoming TV stuff/new dashboard framework is Silverlight I think, there are numerous Windows Phone integration apps out/in the works and I'm sure the 360 will have some connection with Windows 8 too) and he says that he doesn't think that the new dashboard is coming til next spring despite all of the PR saying "this holiday". He also says Kinect doesn't work for black people. I can assure you that it does.Nuclear Muffin said:
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Furio53 said:Ether_Snake said:2013.
Also:
Ten = Heaven = Cloud
so its going to use cloud ?
Media and social platform shared across all Windows-supporting devices (PC, phone, Xbox, etc.) I guess.
Doesn't mean it's cloud-only of course
bgassassin
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[Nintex] said:
I was about to something like this. He was just joking about that. I don't see how that could be viewed any other way.
Mr.Green said:
CoD is casual though. A different type of casual, in that CoD is a traditional game, but still.
Just as there are a sizeable percentage of Wii owners who bought the console just for Wii Sports, there are plenty of people who buy Xbox/PS3 primarily to play CoD games. That is the pretty much defined definition of casual in my book.