Rumor: Xbox successor codename is "Ten". Expected release Holiday 2012.

Kaijima said:
Only way I could see this happen for fall 2012 is if the nextbox is a straight iterative upgrade of the 360 - just a new box you slide in place, plays all old software and seamlessly transitions your xbox live (and XBLA content) services with no interruption. Mainly, just focuses on more powerful revision of the hardware and games can either be coded to run on both consoles (locked 60fps on nextbox, etc) or pave the way for nextbox exclusive next gen games.

Halo 4 might be launched to help push such a concept - say, it has better shaders, superior textures, and runs at 60fps when played on the nextbox. But it would still be fully playable to current 360 owners.

In a way I wonder if this is not a likely scenario after all. The next xbox seems as if it MUST be a seamless update to the current one. Xbox live and digital content is now too important. With games on demand many people have half of their library via digital means. As with Steam, nobody is going to want to lose their game library for merely upgrading hardware to play newer games at higher quality.

whats the difference digital/physical? Its the BC argument over again. Want to play 360 games? Keep your 360.
 
Why is everyone saying Nintendo is fucked with WiiU if this is true? We don't know the power of the WiiU and we have no idea what the power of the Xbox Ten will be. They could be very close as MS stated they aren't going the route of the 360 again because it isn't financially feasible in the current market. Leads me to believe they won't go for the highest tech on market and go a bit cheaper to keep cost down.

Other rumors said it'll be smaller and cheaper than the 360 also. So WiiU is fine.
 
[Nintex said:
]That's part of their running 'The Kinect doesn't work' joke.
Ah right, fair enough. I haven't watched it before.

bgassassin said:
I was about to something like this. He was just joking about that. I don't see how that could be viewed any other way.
Because there were legit articles about such a thing before/during the Kinect launch. I thought he might have just been referencing those.
 
NateDrake said:
Other rumors said it'll be smaller and cheaper than the 360 also. So WiiU is fine.

The other rumors also says that it'll be released a year later. Some rumors also says that it'll have "Avatar" quality graphics. At this point we know far more about the Wii U.
 
InaudibleWhispa said:
Ah right, fair enough. I haven't watched it before.


Because there were legit articles about such a thing before/during the Kinect launch. I thought he might have just been referencing those.

He seems to have a pretty good sense of humor. On a side note he sounds like Keith Olbermann to me.
 
Father_Brain said:
The Twilight Princess comparison just doesn't wash, by the way; when it was last publicly shown as a GC title (E3 2005, AFAIK), it was still slated to be released on GC that year. Nintendo, by all indications, didn't decide that they needed it for Wii launch until a few months later.

If the next Xbox is launching by the end of next year, Microsoft would have had to have planned on that launch timeframe before this past E3. Meaning that they flat-out lied about what platform Halo 4 was for, solely to cover up their plans to launch the next console by the end of 2012.

Is that inconceivable? No, but it is completely unprecedented. And pretty damn unlikely, IMO.

"New trilogy for the Xbox 360" is what they said. So yeah, they lied. I wouldn't even be surprised if Halo 4 is exclusive to the next system.
 
NateDrake said:
Why is everyone saying Nintendo is fucked with WiiU if this is true? We don't know the power of the WiiU and we have no idea what the power of the Xbox Ten will be. They could be very close as MS stated they aren't going the route of the 360 again because it isn't financially feasible in the current market. Leads me to believe they'll won't go for the highest tech on market and will go a bit cheaper to keep cost down.

Other rumors said it'll be smaller and cheaper than the 360 also. So WiiU is fine.
It isn't about power. If Nintendo is trying to kill MS and Sony's next consoles with the Wii U, then they are the underdog because they didn't chase after that segment of the market this gen. MS has all the momentum right now with the hardcore gamers and they are not going to be easy to beat. Nintendo needs time to catch up.
 
H_Prestige said:
It isn't about power. If Nintendo is trying to kill MS and Sony's next consoles with the Wii U, then they are the underdog because they didn't chase after that segment of the market this gen. MS has all the momentum right now with the hardcore gamers and they are not going to be easy to beat. Nintendo needs time to catch up.
I can accept that but in truth, isn't Sony more the one that is truly fucked if this is true? Sony can't afford to come out last against Nintendo and MS, especially if all 3 are close in power.
 
Holiday 2012 is too soon. I know that consoles generally last around 6 years (excluding Sony's 10 year life cycle model) but technology has increased as such a rapid pace in the last decade that this is the generation where gaming consoles are going to take a while to move onto the next gen. If the console did come out in Holiday 2012, it would be more of a "Wii U" ish type of machine, where it plays existing 360 games but runs on better hardware.
 
NateDrake said:
I can accept that but in truth, isn't Sony more the one that is truly fucked if this is true? Sony can't afford to come out last against Nintendo and MS, especially if all 3 are close in power.

Sony is fucked if they put out a next generation console in the next few years period. They should just ride out on the PS3 and wait for a industry shifting piece of technology, like streaming games or Virtual Reality etc.
 
Don't know if it's been posted in this thread but the other rumor I heard was that the next Xbox would be much smaller and cheaper than the 360 (or at least what the 360 launched at). That would sound to me like they aren't going bleeding edge this time around. How much more powerful than the Wii-U could they really be, launching at the same time anyway? We still don't know how old the tech in the Wii-U is gonna be.
 
Honestly this is terrible news if true. 2012 is too early for next-gen... I was hoping Fall 2013 so we get better tech. If true, it looks like PS4 is the one that'll be worth it for us tech nerds.
 
Massa said:
"New trilogy for the Xbox 360" is what they said. So yeah, they lied. I wouldn't even be surprised if Halo 4 is exclusive to the next system.

It is almost unfathomable that the entire trilogy would appear on 360. I don't see them running the franchise into the ground with annual installments, I don't see the Ten/Loop releasing in 2016+, and I don't see them wasting resources (and the "buy our new console" incentive) by developing 2 versions of the same game (360 and Ten).
 
So no one thinks the new Halo trilogy will simply be for the new Xbox?

You guys talk like the word of these companies is their bond. Of course this far out they're going to say its for current Xbox. Doesn't mean they can't change when the time suits them.

To launch the new Xbox with Halo 4 would be a HUUUUUUUGE boost to the sales of the new console. As big as you can get in fact.
 
10 Cores
10 Gigs RAM
10 TB HDD


I await my Xbox Ten Commandments. They will be glorious.

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Heavy said:
Honestly this is terrible news if true. 2012 is too early for next-gen... I was hoping Fall 2013 so we get better tech. If true, it looks like PS4 is the one that'll be worth it for us tech nerds.

If you're a "tech-nerd" you'd be already in "next-gen" with a PC. Plus, if anything this generation has shown, is that the more powerful system doesn't mean much in the long run. Although I do wish MS would have had more space than than just DVD.
 
Satchel said:
So no one thinks the new Halo trilogy will simply be for the new Xbox?

You guys talk like the word of these companies is their bond. Of course this far out they're going to say its for current Xbox. Doesn't mean they can't change when the time suits them.

To launch the new Xbox with Halo 4 would be a HUUUUUUUGE boost to the sales of the new console. As big as you can get in fact.
You overestimate the power of the Halo name these days. Back at the early days of the 360, yes it would have been massive. Halo 3 was a huge seller but things slowed for the series since then. CoD took that market over. Halo 4 launch would do well but not a HUUUUUUUGE boost as you suggest.
 
NateDrake said:
I can accept that but in truth, isn't Sony more the one that is truly fucked if this is true? Sony can't afford to come out last against Nintendo and MS, especially if all 3 are close in power.
I think Sony is screwed if they wait too long. They have to launch their product around the same time if they want to remain competitive with MS. They have to be neck deep in ps4 development right now.
 
Satchel said:
So no one thinks the new Halo trilogy will simply be for the new Xbox?

You guys talk like the word of these companies is their bond. Of course this far out they're going to say its for current Xbox. Doesn't mean they can't change when the time suits them.

To launch the new Xbox with Halo 4 would be a HUUUUUUUGE boost to the sales of the new console. As big as you can get in fact.
Halo 4, Halo movie and Xbox Ten

Nintendo better bring Mario out to play.
 
H_Prestige said:
MS has all the momentum right now with the hardcore gamers and they are not going to be easy to beat.

That probably will be the case, but I don't know why that should be the case. I'm certainly wary of buying their next console.

-Hardware issues.
-Paying for online.
-Accessories are ridiculously expensive.
 
RedSwirl said:
Don't know if it's been posted in this thread but the other rumor I heard was that the next Xbox would be much smaller and cheaper than the 360 (or at least what the 360 launched at). That would sound to me like they aren't going bleeding edge this time around. How much more powerful than the Wii-U could they really be, launching at the same time anyway? We still don't know how old the tech in the Wii-U is gonna be.

We talked about it in the Loop thread. I still have a tough time believing all of what MS Nerd said though.

Heavy said:
Honestly this is terrible news if true. 2012 is too early for next-gen... I was hoping Fall 2013 so we get better tech. If true, it looks like PS4 is the one that'll be worth it for us tech nerds.

Unless it's coming out Spring '13. ;)

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=443445
 
Massa said:
"New trilogy for the Xbox 360" is what they said. So yeah, they lied. I wouldn't even be surprised if Halo 4 is exclusive to the next system.
They didn't.

And Halo 4 is an xbox 360 game no matter what happens.
 
flyinpiranha said:
If you're a "tech-nerd" you'd be already in "next-gen" with a PC. Plus, if anything this generation has shown, is that the more powerful system doesn't mean much in the long run. Although I do wish MS would have had more space than than just DVD.
PC is all I own, dude. Doesn't mean I can't get excited for next-gen console tech and devs taking full advantage of it.
 
I do not care if they release it next year or 2013. That shit must be full retrocompatible to 360 games and do not burn in the first year of use.
 
NateDrake said:
You overestimate the power of the Halo name these days. Back at the early days of the 360, yes it would have been massive. Halo 3 was a huge seller but things slowed for the series since then. CoD took that market over. Halo 4 launch would do well but not a HUUUUUUUGE boost as you suggest.
Halo is still a huge series, of course its going to be just that if it comes out for the next Xbox.
 
XBOX TEN

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inner-G said:
Get rid of the xbox name, and just call it the Microsoft 10.

The MSX.

:P


The xbox brand took a lot of effort to get it to where it is now, it'll never be dropped in the foreseeable future.
 
GAF needs to remember that Paul Thurrott (the guy talking about Xbox 10) is a very reputable source. Guy has major insider knowledge about MS and runs http://www.winsupersite.com/ which is widely followed by IT professionals around the world.

Rumors are rumors but do not assume this is silly business, this guy has been right before and continues to prove he has great knowledge of what goes on inside the Wonka factory. He was spilling the beans about Win8 stuff long before it was ever public.
 
NateDrake said:
You overestimate the power of the Halo name these days. Back at the early days of the 360, yes it would have been massive. Halo 3 was a huge seller but things slowed for the series since then. CoD took that market over. Halo 4 launch would do well but not a HUUUUUUUGE boost as you suggest.
Yeah, ok cool. Whatever you say.
 
Massa said:
"New trilogy for the Xbox 360" is what they said. So yeah, they lied. I wouldn't even be surprised if Halo 4 is exclusive to the next system.

Well, that's so obviously BS that I don't even count it as lying.

...Actually, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the full quote was "start of a new trilogy for the Xbox 360." Put a comma after "new trilogy" and it's not necessarily false...
 
Heavy said:
PC is all I own, dude. Doesn't mean I can't get excited for next-gen console tech and devs taking full advantage of it.

Also, it's not entirely accurate to say PC gamers are already enjoying next-gen. How many games would you honestly say are actually next-gen?

Saying that, 'next-gen' is quite a vague term. What exactly constitutes a next-gen game anyway? Does adding a few DX11 features constitute it?
 
Massa said:
Those are exactly the words used by Don Mattrick at E3.
You sure? Maybe it was "beginning of a new trilogy on the xbox 360" or something equally open for interpretation.

Either way, it's just Don being Don, we've talked about this on Halogaf more than once, and employees from 343 Industries always step in to put an end to doubt and confirm that it's definitely an xbox 360 game.

edit- I got confused, the second part of this post is not directed at your post.
 
On a more serious note: can a new Xbox be launched in the end of 2012 alongside Halo 4 for Xbox 360? Sure, why not. They'll just make Halo 4 for both platforms simultaineously thus killing two birds with one Halo -- they'll have a reason to buy new Xbox on launch for some people and they'll sell Halo 4 to those who won't buy a new Xbox on launch so that they'll buy it later for Halo 5 (which will be exclusive to new Xbox of course).

There certainly is a lot of rumours on next Xbox flying around which kinda make the whole thing quite possible. No matter how many NDAs you sign you still talk to your friends on Friday nights and they do have an Internet connection. So if these rumours will still appear as regularily as they did for the last couple of months then I'd say that we might get a new Xbox in the end of 2012.
 
NateDrake said:
You overestimate the power of the Halo name these days. Back at the early days of the 360, yes it would have been massive. Halo 3 was a huge seller but things slowed for the series since then. CoD took that market over. Halo 4 launch would do well but not a HUUUUUUUGE boost as you suggest.

Halo is still MS's biggest first party franchise and having a Halo game would only help bolster a launch lineup. Launching around the holidays would probably mean it would have a CoD too anyways.

CoD won't rule forever. Gears of War was the game to play online early in the generation only for that audience to flock to Halo 3 and CoD later.
 
That might have been the plan like a year ago. But then 360 sales took off and they havent dropped the price since ever

The incentive needs to big enough to upgrade and for 399 max. Not possible in 2012. The COD crowd would not give a shit if looks better only under Digitalfoundry microscope
 
leadbelly said:
Also, it's not entirely accurate to say PC gamers are already enjoying next-gen. How many games would you honestly say are actually next-gen?

Saying that, 'next-gen' is quite a vague term. What exactly constitutes a next-gen game anyway? Does adding a few DX11 features constitute it?
And what does next-gen quantify? Better graphics? What about if MS unifies a true platform between Win8, Windows Phones and Xbox? There is a massive opportunity for MS to unveil some kind of additional features that have nothing to do with anything a current high end PC can do. They quite honestly have the ability to do something that none of their competitors can do .. its very exciting.

Microsoft is a software giant, and they are going to flex their muscles with this next Xbox/Windows 8. I have a powerful gaming PC, but following closely how the entire tech industry is moving..I am pretty confident that MS is likely going to show off the next Xbox by showcasing some kind of new feature that isn't better graphics. They have to prove to people that the next Xbox is worth paying for, and more pixels isn't enough in 2011. We (as consumers) get new phones every few months that blow away the previous model. Consumers are hungry for tech advancement are we are not as easily impressed as we were just 5 short years ago. More pixels, more FPS, more AA ... that isn't enough. Its going to some kind of software integration, platform integration and features that are going to take center stage at the beginning of this next gen.

The days of graphics quantifying a new generation are over.
 
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