Kaijima said:Only way I could see this happen for fall 2012 is if the nextbox is a straight iterative upgrade of the 360 - just a new box you slide in place, plays all old software and seamlessly transitions your xbox live (and XBLA content) services with no interruption. Mainly, just focuses on more powerful revision of the hardware and games can either be coded to run on both consoles (locked 60fps on nextbox, etc) or pave the way for nextbox exclusive next gen games.
Halo 4 might be launched to help push such a concept - say, it has better shaders, superior textures, and runs at 60fps when played on the nextbox. But it would still be fully playable to current 360 owners.
In a way I wonder if this is not a likely scenario after all. The next xbox seems as if it MUST be a seamless update to the current one. Xbox live and digital content is now too important. With games on demand many people have half of their library via digital means. As with Steam, nobody is going to want to lose their game library for merely upgrading hardware to play newer games at higher quality.
Ah right, fair enough. I haven't watched it before.[Nintex said:]That's part of their running 'The Kinect doesn't work' joke.
Because there were legit articles about such a thing before/during the Kinect launch. I thought he might have just been referencing those.bgassassin said:I was about to something like this. He was just joking about that. I don't see how that could be viewed any other way.
Soneet said:Direct X > Xbox
Ten > 10 > X > Xbox
It's all about the X with MS consoles.
Fixed!Graphics Horse said:X[]X
NateDrake said:Other rumors said it'll be smaller and cheaper than the 360 also. So WiiU is fine.
Nuclear Muffin said:Holiday 2012 sounds completely insane.
InaudibleWhispa said:Ah right, fair enough. I haven't watched it before.
Because there were legit articles about such a thing before/during the Kinect launch. I thought he might have just been referencing those.
Father_Brain said:The Twilight Princess comparison just doesn't wash, by the way; when it was last publicly shown as a GC title (E3 2005, AFAIK), it was still slated to be released on GC that year. Nintendo, by all indications, didn't decide that they needed it for Wii launch until a few months later.
If the next Xbox is launching by the end of next year, Microsoft would have had to have planned on that launch timeframe before this past E3. Meaning that they flat-out lied about what platform Halo 4 was for, solely to cover up their plans to launch the next console by the end of 2012.
Is that inconceivable? No, but it is completely unprecedented. And pretty damn unlikely, IMO.
It isn't about power. If Nintendo is trying to kill MS and Sony's next consoles with the Wii U, then they are the underdog because they didn't chase after that segment of the market this gen. MS has all the momentum right now with the hardcore gamers and they are not going to be easy to beat. Nintendo needs time to catch up.NateDrake said:Why is everyone saying Nintendo is fucked with WiiU if this is true? We don't know the power of the WiiU and we have no idea what the power of the Xbox Ten will be. They could be very close as MS stated they aren't going the route of the 360 again because it isn't financially feasible in the current market. Leads me to believe they'll won't go for the highest tech on market and will go a bit cheaper to keep cost down.
Other rumors said it'll be smaller and cheaper than the 360 also. So WiiU is fine.
I can accept that but in truth, isn't Sony more the one that is truly fucked if this is true? Sony can't afford to come out last against Nintendo and MS, especially if all 3 are close in power.H_Prestige said:It isn't about power. If Nintendo is trying to kill MS and Sony's next consoles with the Wii U, then they are the underdog because they didn't chase after that segment of the market this gen. MS has all the momentum right now with the hardcore gamers and they are not going to be easy to beat. Nintendo needs time to catch up.
NateDrake said:I can accept that but in truth, isn't Sony more the one that is truly fucked if this is true? Sony can't afford to come out last against Nintendo and MS, especially if all 3 are close in power.
Massa said:"New trilogy for the Xbox 360" is what they said. So yeah, they lied. I wouldn't even be surprised if Halo 4 is exclusive to the next system.
Heavy said:Honestly this is terrible news if true. 2012 is too early for next-gen... I was hoping Fall 2013 so we get better tech. If true, it looks like PS4 is the one that'll be worth it for us tech nerds.
Bullocks.Reversed said:Zomg Net is Ten backwards.
You overestimate the power of the Halo name these days. Back at the early days of the 360, yes it would have been massive. Halo 3 was a huge seller but things slowed for the series since then. CoD took that market over. Halo 4 launch would do well but not a HUUUUUUUGE boost as you suggest.Satchel said:So no one thinks the new Halo trilogy will simply be for the new Xbox?
You guys talk like the word of these companies is their bond. Of course this far out they're going to say its for current Xbox. Doesn't mean they can't change when the time suits them.
To launch the new Xbox with Halo 4 would be a HUUUUUUUGE boost to the sales of the new console. As big as you can get in fact.
I think Sony is screwed if they wait too long. They have to launch their product around the same time if they want to remain competitive with MS. They have to be neck deep in ps4 development right now.NateDrake said:I can accept that but in truth, isn't Sony more the one that is truly fucked if this is true? Sony can't afford to come out last against Nintendo and MS, especially if all 3 are close in power.
Halo 4, Halo movie and Xbox TenSatchel said:So no one thinks the new Halo trilogy will simply be for the new Xbox?
You guys talk like the word of these companies is their bond. Of course this far out they're going to say its for current Xbox. Doesn't mean they can't change when the time suits them.
To launch the new Xbox with Halo 4 would be a HUUUUUUUGE boost to the sales of the new console. As big as you can get in fact.
H_Prestige said:MS has all the momentum right now with the hardcore gamers and they are not going to be easy to beat.
RedSwirl said:Don't know if it's been posted in this thread but the other rumor I heard was that the next Xbox would be much smaller and cheaper than the 360 (or at least what the 360 launched at). That would sound to me like they aren't going bleeding edge this time around. How much more powerful than the Wii-U could they really be, launching at the same time anyway? We still don't know how old the tech in the Wii-U is gonna be.
Heavy said:Honestly this is terrible news if true. 2012 is too early for next-gen... I was hoping Fall 2013 so we get better tech. If true, it looks like PS4 is the one that'll be worth it for us tech nerds.
They didn't.Massa said:"New trilogy for the Xbox 360" is what they said. So yeah, they lied. I wouldn't even be surprised if Halo 4 is exclusive to the next system.
PC is all I own, dude. Doesn't mean I can't get excited for next-gen console tech and devs taking full advantage of it.flyinpiranha said:If you're a "tech-nerd" you'd be already in "next-gen" with a PC. Plus, if anything this generation has shown, is that the more powerful system doesn't mean much in the long run. Although I do wish MS would have had more space than than just DVD.
Letters said:They didn't.
And Halo 4 is an xbox 360 game no matter what happens.
Halo is still a huge series, of course its going to be just that if it comes out for the next Xbox.NateDrake said:You overestimate the power of the Halo name these days. Back at the early days of the 360, yes it would have been massive. Halo 3 was a huge seller but things slowed for the series since then. CoD took that market over. Halo 4 launch would do well but not a HUUUUUUUGE boost as you suggest.
inner-G said:Get rid of the xbox name, and just call it the Microsoft 10.
The MSX.
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Yeah, ok cool. Whatever you say.NateDrake said:You overestimate the power of the Halo name these days. Back at the early days of the 360, yes it would have been massive. Halo 3 was a huge seller but things slowed for the series since then. CoD took that market over. Halo 4 launch would do well but not a HUUUUUUUGE boost as you suggest.
Massa said:"New trilogy for the Xbox 360" is what they said. So yeah, they lied. I wouldn't even be surprised if Halo 4 is exclusive to the next system.
Heavy said:PC is all I own, dude. Doesn't mean I can't get excited for next-gen console tech and devs taking full advantage of it.
You sure? Maybe it was "beginning of a new trilogy on the xbox 360" or something equally open for interpretation.Massa said:Those are exactly the words used by Don Mattrick at E3.
NateDrake said:You overestimate the power of the Halo name these days. Back at the early days of the 360, yes it would have been massive. Halo 3 was a huge seller but things slowed for the series since then. CoD took that market over. Halo 4 launch would do well but not a HUUUUUUUGE boost as you suggest.
And what does next-gen quantify? Better graphics? What about if MS unifies a true platform between Win8, Windows Phones and Xbox? There is a massive opportunity for MS to unveil some kind of additional features that have nothing to do with anything a current high end PC can do. They quite honestly have the ability to do something that none of their competitors can do .. its very exciting.leadbelly said:Also, it's not entirely accurate to say PC gamers are already enjoying next-gen. How many games would you honestly say are actually next-gen?
Saying that, 'next-gen' is quite a vague term. What exactly constitutes a next-gen game anyway? Does adding a few DX11 features constitute it?