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[chillybright]

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/russian...cal-magazine-charlie-hebdo-mocks-plane-crash/

Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov described the cartoons as “excrements,” saying in Thursday’s statement that “it is humiliating for a normal person even to pay attention to this labored filth.”

Sunday’s crash of a Syria-bound Russian plane killed all 92 people on board. It was carrying members of the world-famous Russian army choir to a New Year’s concert at a Russian military base in Syria.

One of Charlie Hebdo’s cartoons depicts a singer in the falling aircraft wailing ‘aaaa’ with inscription: “The repertoire of the Red Army Choir is expanding,” while another voices sardonic regret that Russian President Vladimir Putin wasn’t inside.

Honestly, it reminds me of this:

Charlie Hebdo really mocks everything.

 

[valkillmore]

Has Charlie mocked the attacks on their own paper?

 

[Grug]

Charlie Hebdo really mocks everything.

Well that is basically their charter.

 

[Funky Papa]

Has Charlie mocked the attacks on their own paper?

A number of times, I believe.

 

[milanbaros]

Has Charlie mocked the attacks on their own paper?

Pretty sure they have, yes.

 

[valkillmore]

A number of times, I believe.

Pretty sure they have, yes.

Huh. I really don't know how to feel about what they do.

 

[Joni]

Huh. I really don't know how to feel about what they do.

Well, if you don't buy them, you don't have to. It is just a fringe magazine that was on the edge of bankruptcy. Seeing that it is still a magazine in a modern world it probably still is.

 

[elyetis]

Seems like those are the cartoons :

The first two did make me laugh.

 

[BAW]

Huh. I really don't know how to feel about what they do.

Just see it as a barometer for the level of free speech in the world. Their raison d'etre is to be extremely insulting, everybody knows it, they know it... If the world can understand and accept that it has a right to exist regardless of what it says, then things are good for free speech in the world, if anyone wants to start a "noble crusade" against Charlie Hebdo for whatever bullshit reason (our children! or the quality!) then better be wary.

 

[pants]

Seems like those are the cartoons :

The first two did make me laugh.

I dont know french, could you translate?

 

[kirblar]

Seems like those are the cartoons :

The first two did make me laugh.

Couild you translate the captions for us uncultured brutes who don't read French?

 

[Dalibor68]

Well, they can be rightfully outraged as long as noone is calling for censorship (assuming it's covered by free speech).

I do sometimes wonder who buys this magazine though.

 

[liquidtmd]

Irrespective of the wider context, satire for me has to have an undercurrent of humour.

One of Charlie Hebdo’s cartoons depicts a singer in the falling aircraft wailing ‘aaaa’ with inscription

This to me is not funny and I do like black humour.

They are free to do as they wish though but I'm not surprised at the outrage.

 

[Sinsem]

I dont know french, could you translate?

I don't know how to properly translate the joke for the first one but the second one says:
"The Red Army Chorus Crash. Bad news... Putin wasn't inside"
And the 3rd one says:
"After the catastrophe, The Red Army conquers a new public"

 

[elyetis]

I dont know french, could you translate?

Couild you translate the captions for us uncultured brutes who don't read French?

The first two are already in the OP ( left then middle ) :

One of Charlie Hebdo’s cartoons depicts a singer in the falling aircraft wailing ‘aaaa’ with inscription: “The repertoire of the Red Army Choir is expanding,” while another voices sardonic regret that Russian President Vladimir Putin wasn’t inside.

The third one would be :
After the disaster
The Red Army Choir conquered a new audience.

( I'm not sure the literal translation 'conquered' is really the right word to use in english in this context )

 

[Keasar]

Has Charlie mocked the attacks on their own paper?

So, so many times.

 

[Atom Heart Mother]

Why does this little French magazine still cause outrage? Like, I've seen webcomics way more offensive than what they do

 

[Alx]

Why does this little French magazine still cause outrage? Like, I've seen webcomics way more offensive than what they do

Quite ironically, because the attacks put them in the spotlight. They've been doing their thing for decades and nobody cared (they were actually starting to dwindle for lack of popularity), now they're a known name all around the world. They just started a local edition in Germany a few weeks ago, even.

 

[Ulysses 31]

Just see it as a barometer for the level of free speech in the world. Their raison d'etre is to be extremely insulting, everybody knows it, they know it... If the world can understand and accept that it has a right to exist regardless of what it says, then things are good for free speech in the world, if anyone wants to start a "noble crusade" against Charlie Hebdo for whatever bullshit reason (our children! or the quality!) then better be wary.

Have you not seen the "hate speech is not free speech" card being pulled a lot when people find critisism/satire disagreeable? >.>

 

[Kurita]

Seems like those are the cartoons :

The first two did make me laugh.

Lol they're pretty good

 

[Sgt. Kabukiman]

Oh, it's time for a new Charlie Hebdo thread already?
I certainly understand why anybody from Russia would be pissed and outraged by these drawings but Charlie mocked their own attack so... Why wouldn't they joke about everything else?
And looking at these drawings, they're not really mocking the victims but are using the situation to shit on Poutine, which is more than fair game.

 

[EmiPrime]

I admit, I laughed out loud at the second cartoon (Putin).

 

[LiveFromKyoto]

And looking at these drawings, they're not really mocking the victims but are using the situation to shit on Poutine, which is more than fair game.

Poutine is fucking delicious. I don't care whether he believes in democracy or not, I will follow his orders anywhere.

 

[Sgt. Kabukiman]

Poutine is fucking delicious. I don't care whether he believes in democracy or not, I will follow his orders anywhere.

Lol, I should have remembered that I'm on an english speaking forum.
Poutine is actually the French spelling of his name, so I'm not completely crazy.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Poutine

 

[Weckum]

Poutine is fucking delicious. I don't care whether he believes in democracy or not, I will follow his orders anywhere.

Goddamn, now I want Poutine.

Anyway, I don't think their cartoons are funny or edgy or anything, but I respect that they mock absolutely everything and don't give a shit.

 

[evanmisha]

Lol, I should have remembered that I'm on an english speaking forum.
Poutine is actually the French spelling of his name, so I'm not completely crazy.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Poutine

Get. Out.

How did I not know this?

 

[LiveFromKyoto]

Lol, I should have remembered that I'm on an english speaking forum.
Poutine is actually the French spelling of his name, so I'm not completely crazy.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Poutine

I actually thought Hebdo were just making a silly pun, and I was like "wow, Poutine's a thing in France now too?"

 

[LiveFromKyoto]

Goddamn, now I want Poutine.

Smoke's reuben sandwich poutine 4lyfe

 

[Mr. Giggles]

Poutine is fucking delicious. I don't care whether he believes in democracy or not, I will follow his orders anywhere.

What is this?
Where's the gravy?

6/10

 

[TheWasTheJoke]

I mean they're clearly dickheads

 

[Violet_0]

oh my, is it already time for the CH "what is satire and can you eat it" test again?

 

[Mr. Giggles]

Smoke's reuben sandwich poutine 4lyfe

Is that... Is that mustard?

Awful.

4/10

 

[LiveFromKyoto]

What is this?
Where's the gravy?

6/10

Oozing over the side?

Is that... Is that mustard?

Awful.

4/10

Do not knock it until you've experienced it. Fries & mustard are a natural pairing, and according to Templar legend suppressed by the Vatican the reuben is the sandwich that Christ himself created while on the cross.

 

[SURGEdude]

Who are the people at the computers supposed to be?

 

[Javier23]

Who are the people at the computers supposed to be?

Pretty easy to guess once you think of all the airliners that have crashed into office buildings

 

[Razmos]

Why does Russia always respond to everything like a child spitting out their dummy. They never even try and sound diplomatic.

 

[Jackpot]

Hebdo has always been a tasteless, bargain-basement equivalent of an internet troll. The tragedies it's suffered doesn't change that. Nor the fact that Russia was its target should make this any more ok.

 

[TheRedSnifit]

I didn't used to care for the magazine, but the Internet tantrums they provoke has made me a fan.

 

[liquidtmd]

Why does Russia always respond to everything like a child spitting out their dummy. They never even try and sound diplomatic.

Alas, something under the Trump administration we are all going to experience

 

[Angel_DvA]

Seems like those are the cartoons :

The first two did make me laugh.

The middle one say: "Bad News, Putin wasn't on board"

 

[Betty]

The middle one say: "Bad News, Putin wasn't on board"

Is what his reaction would be, i'm not overly fond of this close to the bone humour but I wouldn't censor it either.

 

[DiipuSurotu]

Who are the people at the computers supposed to be?

Bottom right corner says it's 2001 and the Empire State Building is in the background.

 

[PdotMichael]

Have you not seen the "hate speech is not free speech" card being pulled a lot when people find critisism/satire disagreeable? >.>

Like who?

 

[Meadows]

Charlie Hebdo stuff kind of makes me feel gross, not because of this specific case but just in general.

 

[Fersis]

The Charlie Hebdo writers have the right to joke about it and the Russian military and people have the right to be offended by it.

 

[iuxion]

They don't seem funny. Probably best to ignore if you're offended though.

 

[andythinkpad]

This actually make me feel they crossed the line (more so than the rest of their stuns) for me.

My feeling is french are weird.

 

[Turin Turambar]

One of Charlie Hebdo’s cartoons depicts a singer in the falling aircraft wailing ‘aaaa’ with inscription: “The repertoire of the Red Army Choir is expanding,”

I have to confess, I did a (small) chuckle.

 

[ElyrionX]

Are they also outraged that their missile shot down a civilian aircraft full of passengers?

 

[DiipuSurotu]

One of Charlie Hebdo’s cartoons depicts a singer in the falling aircraft wailing ‘aaaa’ with inscription: “The repertoire of the Red Army Choir is expanding,” while another voices sardonic regret that Russian President Vladimir Putin wasn’t inside.

At first I thought this description was a single cartoon, as in the repertoire of the choir expands and one of the chorists thinks it's a shame that Putin isn't inside to hear the new song.