DarthPutin
Member
PS. I get it, it's hard to believe someone could be so clueless and dumb, I also have hard time accepting it, even though I've seen it before.
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IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
The dev did a 'woe is me why does everyone think I'm Kojima, woe is me this is tuff guyz" routine right when this really blew up.. that's why Resetera closed their thread, and probably why the likes of Jason Schrier didn't press further. Also why I suspect Nuare decided they should lend a hand... although I have a feeling they will or already have bailed from the project, and likely hadn't done any work yet. (just my hunch)
Beyond the fact that it's blatantly obvious that it's not Kojima.. and it's really just some guy named Hasan, so there's nothing really to press further on lol
Beyond the fact that it's blatantly obvious that it's not Kojima.. and it's really just some guy named Hasan, so there's nothing really to press further on lol
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Oh wow. I am watching this MBG guy ramble and suddenly he stops for good 5 minutes and you can see he is confused and weirded out.
After this he tells that BBG contacted him and told him that they are real company and 5s video was teaser for a teaser.
He is 100% not lying I can see that in his face. He had a title something like "bluebox slaughered, it's over"... changed the title in the meantime he was baffled looking at his phone
After this he tells that BBG contacted him and told him that they are real company and 5s video was teaser for a teaser.
He is 100% not lying I can see that in his face. He had a title something like "bluebox slaughered, it's over"... changed the title in the meantime he was baffled looking at his phone
MobsCanParry
Banned
Well, it's not an ARG, we've discussed this. It's a reveal, in real-time, happening right now. Just not in the way you've ever seen. Same as Moby Dick wasn't an ARG but a reveal.
And yes, I do find it believable that Kojima would do something like that, because he's done it before. Let's not ignore that. He's done this kind of thing before. So it's not without precedent.
As for the tweet, we discussed that it was intentional. To do exactly what it has done, garner further interest and keep people strung along, and it worked, expertly. As were still talking about it. I mean you won't let it go. So it worked pretty damn well, obviously.
Spank_Magnet
The Male Lewinsky
Why are people trying to make out that 4 sec trailer is the greatest thing they’ve ever seen on a console?
People were like that with the original forest reveal.
People were like that with the original forest reveal.
Banjo64
cumsessed
Hasan is an AI developed by Microsoft, the successor to Tay.
GuinGuin
Banned
And Kojima just happens to be listing to it on a blue box shaped Sony mp3 player when every sane person in modern society listens to music on their phone?
MobsCanParry
Banned
Did you read the interview with Jason? He said he believes that Hasan is Hasan, is an indie developer, but he himself can't explain a lot of what's going on. He's a game journalist, one of the best out there, you're acting like he just said "well never mind" for no reason after that article? I mean come on. This after he said, "oh yeah this is Kojima" then quickly backtracked. Same as Geoff being like, yeah talked to him, seems legit, we will see more this summer.
We have two of the biggest names in the industry saying, yeah seems legit, we will see more, and yet you're like, nah he's an idiot scammer. I mean dude, he's such an idiot he fooled them? Come the hell on that just doesn't hold water.
You want us to believe that Jason Schreir was just like, yeah this moron scammer won't do shit, but I'm intrigued so I won't say anything. The same dude that has unrelentingly went after larger companies? Come on. That's the biggest joke. That other people are like "we feel bad for him" so we willl pull his interviews. This "dumb" guy sure has a lot of fucking sympathy for him by the industry. That's crazy for a guy that came out of nowhere.
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Banjo64
cumsessed
Some of you are legit fucking coo-coo and will never be in charge of marketing any product, ever.
mylifedotcom
Member
All it would take is for Kojima to take four seconds of his life to tweet "This ain't me, fam," and this thing could be over.
Not a peep from him.
Not a peep from Konami.
Not a peep from Sony.
No journalists in the game industry taking a serious look into this.
Very odd, the amount of silence around this even now.
Not a peep from him.
Not a peep from Konami.
Not a peep from Sony.
No journalists in the game industry taking a serious look into this.
Very odd, the amount of silence around this even now.
Alebrije
Gold Member
Well the clothes and characters steps looks and sounds like Silent Hill2 but more like Residen Evil 1 or 2 when you open a door and walk over a stair. If you lisent to the background sound is white noise, so it could be related to the moment previous static radio sound on SH games. The lighting looks like moon light so an area near Toluca Lake...
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MobsCanParry
Banned
Exactly this. Jason has written expose after expose on some of the largest names in gaming. He's not afraid to make enemies as it were. Geoff has nothing to lose from calling this out for what it is if it were so obvious, yet instead, he says look for more this summer. No other games media will touch it, with the exception of some largely unknown podcast. A podcast that mind you then say, we are pulling the interview. For what? Because they feel bad or something? I mean you can't just hand wave all of this away and act as though this "dumb" guy has somehow fooled everyone in the gaming press who's looked into him.
Like no offense, but I'm more inclined to believe a reporter who's written multiple articles on the games industry than some random poster on Neo Gaf. But hey, what do I know, I am just a flat earth moron from a lunatic asylum or some shit.
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Kenneth Haight
Gold Member
SafeOrAlone
Banned
To simply play devil's advocate, I can envision Kojima enjoying this more than anyone, whether he is involved or not.
He doesn't even have to do anything and everyone is talking about him.
MobsCanParry
Banned
I mean, straight up someone just tweet Jason and ask him if he thinks this is a scam or whatever. Ask Geoff. If it's a scam that's going on in gaming they should want to ensure people aren't getting scammed. This isn't that difficult folks. This is simple logic.
GuinGuin
Banned
After paying some guy to legally change his name to Hasan Kahraman 7 years ago you bet he's enjoying seeing it all finally pay off.
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MobsCanParry
Banned
I mean why would Jason have not said anything? Geoff? Sony at this point? This doesn't make anyone look good. Especially since Geoff told people to watch Abandoned himself, as did Jason. Care to explain?
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SafeOrAlone
Banned
You have to find a way to phrase it in a way that will bruise Jason's ego, without getting yourself blocked. It's like one of those bowling ball games they used to have at chuck e. cheese. It requires a delicate balance.
"Jason doesn't really have the type of connections to know whether this is real or not. It would take someone with more progressive connections. Jason is damn good at reporting simple videogame stuff, but this is hardcore journalism."
"Jason doesn't really have the type of connections to know whether this is real or not. It would take someone with more progressive connections. Jason is damn good at reporting simple videogame stuff, but this is hardcore journalism."
GuinGuin
Banned
People are asking every day. Read their tweet replies. They are all silent.
8BiTw0LF
Banned
Oh wow. I am watching this MBG guy ramble and suddenly he stops for good 5 minutes and you can see he is confused and weirded out.
After this he tells that BBG contacted him and told him that they are real company and 5s video was teaser for a teaser.
He is 100% not lying I can see that in his face. He had a title something like "bluebox slaughered, it's over"... changed the title in the meantime he was baffled looking at his phone
I saw that! A teaser for a teaser?
This shit gets weirder and weirder!
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
No he wrote a big article, said he was convinced it was just an indie.. and then moved on.. because where is the story?
All he said was that the interview raised more questions.. he didn't get any real response from Hasan.. so.. what else?
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bitbydeath
Gold Member
It sounds like we’ve reached a point of:
Team Real = Silent Hill
Team Fake = AAA Silent Hill clone
Win/win either way.
Team Real = Silent Hill
Team Fake = AAA Silent Hill clone
Win/win either way.
MobsCanParry
Banned
According to you, there should be one easy-to-find story. I mean, you laid it out. If he's doing what you have suspected him of doing how is that not a story? Why are you here if there's no story here? Why would Jason Shceir of all people not want to report on this so obvious and easy to see, and document, fraud, as you have alleged? What sense does that make. That's a huge story in gaming. Are you saying that Jason would just ignore that?
Also, Geoff? What about his comments? I mean, dude, the logic doesn't hold up.
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IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
It's not a huge story in gaming at all.
There are literally dozens of asset flip garbage (scams) released every single day.
Beyond that all Hasan has done is lied and asked for investor money he very unlikely recieved.
You are just doing that thing where you make way too big of a deal out of my use of the word "scam" even though I keep repeatedly telling you none of these are a big deal.. because he's unlikely to have successfully defrauded anyone but a few dozen people buying $2-5 games who probably moved on with their lives or asked for a refund from Steam/Google Play.
Geoff said the guy contacted him.. made a couple posts on resetera.. and then nothing else. What "comments" of his? He bailed right around the time 99% of the internet did on this story.
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MobsCanParry
Banned
"Kahraman named two of the “six or seven” outsourcing companies that he said Blue Box is working with: Nuare Studio and Dekogon Studios. Representatives for both companies declined to comment."
I mean you're telling me Jason Schreir called up Nuare and Dekogon and said, hey you working with Hasan, and rather then saying "no were not associated with this obvious and easy-to-see scammer" they said "no comment".
Folks, I think we can all agree a no is a no, a "no comment" is essentially a yes. FFS this isn't difficult.
Man, this obvious scammer sure is making inroads in the industry. So much that these companies won't discuss a thing with the biggest in-depth reporter in gaming. That's crazy, especially for such a dumb dude.
I mean you're telling me Jason Schreir called up Nuare and Dekogon and said, hey you working with Hasan, and rather then saying "no were not associated with this obvious and easy-to-see scammer" they said "no comment".
Folks, I think we can all agree a no is a no, a "no comment" is essentially a yes. FFS this isn't difficult.
Man, this obvious scammer sure is making inroads in the industry. So much that these companies won't discuss a thing with the biggest in-depth reporter in gaming. That's crazy, especially for such a dumb dude.
Dr_Salt
Banned
What about team tax fraud?
bitbydeath
Gold Member
That still falls under AAA Silent Hill as he would need to sell it for it to become a tax fraud.
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MobsCanParry
Banned
Do all these other asset flippers immediately garner an interview with Jason Schreier? Did you get some numbers on that or something?
Are they all getting this kind of attention and press? Do they all get Geoff saying, yeah more to come this summer. Cause that's what Geoff said. That there would be more to come this summer from Hasan and Abandoned. I've documented all of this.
As for this being a nothing story? That just doesn't hold water with the allegations you yourself have alleged and the fact that it's so easy to see (and it is) yet Jason ignored all of that in his reporting? I mean dude, it doesn't make any damn sense.
Yeah, Geoff does this for everyone. Just gotta ask nicely.
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MobsCanParry
Banned
You know who else asked nicely of Geoff?
Cause Geoffs never been all in before. And like Kojima has never hired an actor or someone else to represent a "fake"/alternative studio before. Never happened.
Just like Kojima is known for being so subtle....so so subtle.
Cause Geoffs never been all in before. And like Kojima has never hired an actor or someone else to represent a "fake"/alternative studio before. Never happened.
Just like Kojima is known for being so subtle....so so subtle.
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IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
I want to get back to my theory that this is all just Konami trying to make us feel how they did when Kojima Abandoned them.
MobsCanParry
Banned
Also, not at all like Kojima and his team have a connection to the Netherlands at all.
Oh, wait. Yes they do.
www.vg247.com
"In fact, prior to offering the engine, Guerrilla Games didn’t even have a name for the tech. Hulst and Kojima came up with the word Decima, which is the name of an artificial island in the bay of Nagasaki.
Fittingly, the Decima island (also called Dejima) was built in 1634 as a home for Portuguese traders; Japan’s way of limiting their influence on the country. The Dutch later moved to the island in 1641, making it Japan’s only trade port with the rest of the world.
Hulst also revealed that a team from Guerrilla Games engineers would go on missions to Tokyo to help Kojima Productions with engine support, sometimes embedded in teams at the Japanese studio.
Through this partnership, Guerrilla was able to improve the engine based on regular conversations the Dutch team has with Kojima Productions"
oh look, Japans only trade port to the rest of the world used to have to go through the Dutch. Funny that. (I'm just having fun, but seriously folks)
Oh, wait. Yes they do.
Guerrilla Games co-founder tells the story of how he and Kojima arrived at the name Decima for the studio's engine
During an interview at Reboot Develop today, Guerrilla Games co-founder Hermen Hulst talked a little bit about how the collaboration with Kojima Productions...
www.vg247.com
"In fact, prior to offering the engine, Guerrilla Games didn’t even have a name for the tech. Hulst and Kojima came up with the word Decima, which is the name of an artificial island in the bay of Nagasaki.
Fittingly, the Decima island (also called Dejima) was built in 1634 as a home for Portuguese traders; Japan’s way of limiting their influence on the country. The Dutch later moved to the island in 1641, making it Japan’s only trade port with the rest of the world.
Hulst also revealed that a team from Guerrilla Games engineers would go on missions to Tokyo to help Kojima Productions with engine support, sometimes embedded in teams at the Japanese studio.
Through this partnership, Guerrilla was able to improve the engine based on regular conversations the Dutch team has with Kojima Productions"
oh look, Japans only trade port to the rest of the world used to have to go through the Dutch. Funny that. (I'm just having fun, but seriously folks)
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GuinGuin
Banned
Hard at work doing nothing we are supposed to believe I guess?
MobsCanParry
Banned
Yeah, cause so many want to ignore all the reports that they're working on a new game that have also been running rampant for months. You know, like this:
Kojima Productions' Next Game Announcement Coming 'Quite Soon'
https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/kojima-productions-likely-to-announce-its-next-game-quite-soon-says-art-director/ That’s according to studio art director Yoji Shinkawa, who was asked if he could share any details about the company’s second game during a video interview with Al Hub...
But they're just twiddling their thumbs, I agree.
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GHG
Gold Member
Nah it's this simple...
Either:
- This is in fact Kojima and all of this is part of the plan - Hasan is not a real person or he is hired to be part of this
- Hasan is a fraudulent motherfucker who has never and will never released a game, the only reason he's doing this is because he gets off on the attention. Once he's done toying with everyone he will disappear into the sunset and never be seen again.
There is no in between. So the question for all of us right now is are you an optimist or are you a pessimist? What do you chose to believe? For me personally I can't for the life of me understand why someone would want and wish for the second scenario I outlined to be the truth but it shouldn't be surprising considering there can be no light without darkness.
What has been interesting though is witnessing team fake become more and more aggressive as time has gone on, to the point where insults are now being thrown around. If nothing else this has made for an interesting social experiment. People behave in funny ways when faced with uncertainty despite (rightly or wrongly) feeling so close to the truth. For every day this continues to go on without any clear resolution it's another L for team fake and it's starting to take it's toll on some of them. As for the rest of us:
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MobsCanParry
Banned
Oh and that Island that the Dutch controlled, it was artificial. Goddamn these coincidences. They are so inconvenient.Also, not at all like Kojima and his team have a connection to the Netherlands at all.
Oh, wait. Yes they do.
Guerrilla Games co-founder tells the story of how he and Kojima arrived at the name Decima for the studio's engine
During an interview at Reboot Develop today, Guerrilla Games co-founder Hermen Hulst talked a little bit about how the collaboration with Kojima Productions...
"In fact, prior to offering the engine, Guerrilla Games didn’t even have a name for the tech. Hulst and Kojima came up with the word Decima, which is the name of an artificial island in the bay of Nagasaki.
Fittingly, the Decima island (also called Dejima) was built in 1634 as a home for Portuguese traders; Japan’s way of limiting their influence on the country. The Dutch later moved to the island in 1641, making it Japan’s only trade port with the rest of the world.
Hulst also revealed that a team from Guerrilla Games engineers would go on missions to Tokyo to help Kojima Productions with engine support, sometimes embedded in teams at the Japanese studio.
Through this partnership, Guerrilla was able to improve the engine based on regular conversations the Dutch team has with Kojima Productions"
oh look, Japans only trade port to the rest of the world used to have to go through the Dutch. Funny that. (I'm just having fun, but seriously folks)
You know what else was an island, a Kojima island? Hasan's background.
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MobsCanParry
Banned
Do you know what the locals in Hawaii believe about that island? That it isn't real. That it's artificial. That it's a lizard's tale that was cast out to the sea and what you see is its back poking out of the seafloor. It's not a "real" island.
Growing up we were told that it was a giant Chinese man that had gone to the ocean, and sat down, and was still there to this day. Just his hat protruding from the water. Point is, it's believed to not be a real island. It obviously is, but the lore being what it is.
In other words, an artificial Kojima island. Out there all by itself. Alone. Abandoned. No one on it. It's uninhabited if you didn't know.
Growing up we were told that it was a giant Chinese man that had gone to the ocean, and sat down, and was still there to this day. Just his hat protruding from the water. Point is, it's believed to not be a real island. It obviously is, but the lore being what it is.
In other words, an artificial Kojima island. Out there all by itself. Alone. Abandoned. No one on it. It's uninhabited if you didn't know.
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MobsCanParry
Banned
W
metalgear.fandom.com
point being there are multiple connections to Kojima and Hawaii. You just have to know where to look.
Want to hear something else interesting about Hawaii? A lot of Gekkos there. Like a lot. Gekkos are a huge thing over there. A part of the culture. Do you know what else is a gekko?Do you know what the locals in Hawaii believe about that island? That it isn't real. That it's artificial. That it's a lizard's tale that was cast out to the sea and what you see is its back poking out of the seafloor. It's not a "real" island.
Growing up we were told that it was a giant Chinese man that had gone to the ocean, and sat down, and was still there to this day. Just his hat protruding from the water. Point is, it's believed to not be a real island. It obviously is, but the lore being what it is.
In other words, an artificial Kojima island. Out there all by itself. Alone. Abandoned. No one on it. It's uninhabited if you didn't know.
Gekko
The Gekko was a large unmanned autonomous fighting vehicle developed by AT Corp for use in ground combat. Officially designated IRVING by the United States Army, Gekko were colloquially called "lizards" after the species of small lizard with a similarly spelled name: gecko. These war machines...
metalgear.fandom.com
point being there are multiple connections to Kojima and Hawaii. You just have to know where to look.
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IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Bro are you really serious with this "that floor and the guy walking are only possible w/ a AAA dev" thing?
lol
I <3 you
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Ooooooof bro...W
Want to hear something else interesting about Hawaii? A lot of Gekkos there. Like a lot. Gekkos are a huge thing over there. A part of the culture. Do you know what else is a gekko?
Gekko
The Gekko was a large unmanned autonomous fighting vehicle developed by AT Corp for use in ground combat. Officially designated IRVING by the United States Army, Gekko were colloquially called "lizards" after the species of small lizard with a similarly spelled name: gecko. These war machines...
point being there are multiple connections to Kojima and Hawaii. You just have to know where to look.
Now Kojima is a Chinaman?
Come on man I thought you were a progressive
bitbydeath
Gold Member
MobsCanParry
Banned
It's hard out here in 2021, you know.Ooooooof bro...
Now Kojima is a Chinaman?
Come on man I thought you were a progressive
OrionNebula
Member
Oh wow. I am watching this MBG guy ramble and suddenly he stops for good 5 minutes and you can see he is confused and weirded out.
After this he tells that BBG contacted him and told him that they are real company and 5s video was teaser for a teaser.
He is 100% not lying I can see that in his face. He had a title something like "bluebox slaughered, it's over"... changed the title in the meantime he was baffled looking at his phone
Yeah that reaction was weird as fuck
All of a sudden he’s all ‘’Oh, I’m so tired’’, with a big grin he desperately tries to hide, very out of it, all of a sudden
He definitely got some interesting news during the livestream. His whole demeanor changed right after that
MobsCanParry
Banned
A
All the big names are back to following BBGamestudios.
MobsCanParry
Banned
I mean at this point do we really not think this last tweet from Hasan's profile is anything but intentional? I mean this is expert-level trolling for such an obvious "dumb" scammer. "Don't be late" Then "jk". It's so obviously intentional.
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TheGodfather07
Member
So now the whole game is fake and not even a real thing?
Hasan kahraman is about to find a horses head under his blanket when he wakes up in the morning..
Hasan kahraman is about to find a horses head under his blanket when he wakes up in the morning..
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MobsCanParry
Banned
So, know who else is from the Netherlands? Stephanie Joosten. Who's that? Oh no one at all. Shhh. Don't tell.
MobsCanParry
Banned
Do you know what Stephanie Joostens Alma Marta is? Just the University of Leiden. Do you know where that's located? The Netherlands, particularly Leiden. Do you know what else is located in Leiden? Blue Box Studios.
www.crunchbase.com
But these are all just coincidences that mean nothing. Right?
BLUE BOX Game Studio - Crunchbase Company Profile & Funding
BLUE BOX Game Studios is an independent game studio based in The Netherlands.
But these are all just coincidences that mean nothing. Right?
MobsCanParry
Banned
No. It's a thing. Just not "Abandoned" an indie survival game. We all know what team real believes it to be. SH/MGS one or the other or both.
