Two Years, Twenty Four Months, smart arse.
You're going to sit here and tell me that Dark Kingdom is all you want to see ever made?
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Sailor Moon Community Thread: She Blinded Me With Science!
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What part of "first and third saturdays of each month" is giving you difficulty?
I'm going to sit here and tell you that I'll finally get to see the manga version of the Dark Kingdom arc animated, and there's a chance at getting all of the manga animated as a straight adaptation. If it takes five years to get through, it'll be a great five years.
Well, do you think the recent Berserk movies "got away with it"?
No, not particularity.
What part of "Announced 2012, released 2014" is hard for you to grasp?
I'm talking about A, you're talking about Z.
That pamphlet is saying 26. I dare say, after everything that's happened that the chances of a second season is downright laughable. 26 episodes is what we're getting and no more. Ether we're getting a heavy squeezed 1:1 adaptation of the manga or, once again, we're going to play the first verse of a song that has five.
No, I have issues in them only doing the one god-damn thing (Or rushing through five under a rushed schedule)! That's my issue! The ep count suggests ether a rushed adaptation or a partial one, nether scenario is entirely enticing with the only hope being a 1 in a million shot at a sequel.
No, it's fairly obvious they're doing the first arc, or more of the cast would have been discussed, and it's also the arc that focuses on the Silver Crystal. Doing all 60 chapters in 26 episodes is too stupid to even consider.
Again, though, you're despairing and throwing a fit based on your own pessimism and nothing else.
Yeah well fuck me for wanting to see things other than the Dark Kingdom, I guess I'm just the bad-guy for wanting to see other things like time travel, science gone mad and such.
You seriously think that if this goes well for Niconico they'll just pack it up? This is a potential gold mine for them. Maybe it pans out, maybe it won't, but it all starts at the beginning.
I seriously think Naoko Takeuchi will make it completely not worth the effort shy of it doing Doreamon numbers, yes.
Again, Two years of gaestration time, most of which I will grantee you was her going Thatcher every time anyone so much as sneezed.
Also, has anything anime wise NicoNico done internationally not been a complete disaster?
Because twiddling your thumbs until you have to knock a series back a year is totally a thing you do.
When you don't have the resources and staff lined up yet, sure. Hell, they probably weren't even sure what concept they were working with for a long time, and I wouldn't be surprised if they fell back on just doing a straight manga adaptation as a default.
That paints this whole endeavour under a poor light.
As far as I can tell, there isn't anything that wouldn't paint it in a poor light for you.
It being 52 eps would have been all it would have taken.
No, because if you were doing a proper adaptation of the full manga that's still cramped.
Honestly I disagree; that's one episode per chapter and I think you could get most of the material of the chapter done from each of those with time to add in incidentals to spare.
DB Kai seemed to do it perfectly fine with a ratio of a chapter per two episodes (dividing the number of chapters from Raditz to Cell, 226 by 4 (56 (and a bit)) to account for SM's monthly publication run) over 90 some episodes
Look, all I want is R, S, a proper version of SS and Stars, is that really unreasonable here?
Is being forced to wade though an expanded version of what is essentially the origin story reasonable?
The main story is 52, those extra eight are side stories with only one of them (the one with the NASA dood and Luna) being anywhere near important to the main story.
The misadventures of Osaka's insane sister and her wierdo Ganguro buddy do not rank high on my list of "Things to addapt in a new version of Sailor Moon".
*grabs copy*
For page 228 of the japanese PGSM edition manga volume 12 table of contents, it says "Act 60 - Stars 11".
I repeat; the extra 8 are extra side storys (Like Ami's first love, the verious asides with ChibiUsa et all) so there's 52 chapters to the main story.
And besides all that, is there enough origin story to spread over 26 episodes? Fifteen Chapters, that's spred awful thin, isn't it?
Volume 1 (First)
1 2 3 4 5 6
Volume 2 (First)
7 8 9 10 11
Volume 3 (First/R)
12 13 14 15 16
Volume 4 (R)
17 18 19 20 21
Volume 5 (R)
22 23 24 25 26
Volume 6 (Infinity)
27 28 29 30
Volume 7(Infinity)
31 32 33 34 35
Volume 8 (Infinity/Dream)
36 37 38 39
Volume 9 (Dream)
40 41 42 43 44
Volume 10 (Dream)
45 46 47 48 49
Volume 11 (Stars)
50 51 52 53 54
Volume 12 (Stars)
55 56 57 58 59 60
No numbers skipped. Side stories are in two separate volumes.
I'm right. You're wrong. I have the actual manga on my desk, and I know SM better than you.
1 2 3 4 5 6
Volume 2 (First)
7 8 9 10 11
Volume 3 (First/R)
12 13 14 15 16
Volume 4 (R)
17 18 19 20 21
Volume 5 (R)
22 23 24 25 26
Volume 6 (Infinity)
27 28 29 30
Volume 7(Infinity)
31 32 33 34 35
Volume 8 (Infinity/Dream)
36 37 38 39
Volume 9 (Dream)
40 41 42 43 44
Volume 10 (Dream)
45 46 47 48 49
Volume 11 (Stars)
50 51 52 53 54
Volume 12 (Stars)
55 56 57 58 59 60
No numbers skipped. Side stories are in two separate volumes.
I'm right. You're wrong. I have the actual manga on my desk, and I know SM better than you.
The actaul story chapters equal 52 (and were numbered as such in the orgional as noted on Wikipeida) with the extra eight being side story stuff that wasn't numbred before hand
My point stands, this needed to be 52 and it needed to be the entire story. I'm bored with only doing Dark Kingdom. Let's have the origin story and then do things, let's only murder the Wanes once
I'm sure you do. But I ask again; why just only Dark Kingdom when there's so much more to be had?
The Dark Kingdom arc isn't an origin story. It's the story of how Usagi and Mamoru get together and how Usagi comes to learn and accept who she truly is.
Again, nobody has said this. You're being whiny and self-entitled on assumption and it's annoying as hell.
I'd love to be wrong. Really. But if this is only the dark kingdom then it's all been a wadte of time.
Any other show and I'd agree.
Sailor Moon just has too much nonsense around it to make a simple commission of a second sesson a thing.
Any other show and I'd agree.
Sailor Moon just has too much nonsense around it to make a simple commission of a second sesson a thing.
Femmeworth
Banned
The pessimist in me says that this series will only get one season. Though Toei is definitely experimenting with this project, so at this point it's harder to predict what they will do. A full adaptation does seems extremely unlikely if they keep the same production/distribution model, however.
Oh you can go bite me for all I care.
Nonsense such as?
One thing that might have been neat is using the original idea of Usagi's hair turning white/silver when she's Sailor Moon.
Hiiii~
I was here originally for Sailor Moon but now I'm here for Hito and Conan's juicy hot sexual tension.
In list form and off the top of my head:
Show taken off western market in 03.
All attempts to licence show or live action veriant stonewalled.
Manga version going oop and revised version taking shy of ten years to be printed in english.
SMC announced '12 for' 13 only to be punted to '14. Event for show turned into adver for musical whist editor dodges qustions.
- dont' see how that's relevant
- thought high licensing costs was what was preventative
- Kodansha in NA is still a relatively recent thing and Tokyopop couldn't renew the SM license in '08
- You really don't want a rushed production.
Not that I'm an expert but seems like getting ducks in a row to make some money on the property again directly.
The initial announcement for the new show mentioned that they weren't doing the Dark Kingdom, presumably because they had an original story in mind either as a reboot like the other installments or a followup to one of them. However, clearly this fell through and I don't blame them.
cj_iwakura
Member
Well, Cardcaptor Sakura's coming back. Maybe one day we'll get Stars.
YTV in Canada did that too. I got so sick of that stupid farmer. The show would just start to heat up and get exciting, and then *wham*, first episode of DBZ all over again.
And then, do you just lie back and watch beginning of the show for the upmteenth time? Because if you don't, Murphy's Law says new episodes will start airing as soon as you're not paying attention, and you will miss one or two of them.
The worst was when the show wrapped around and reached the point where it reset last time. Is it going to reset again, or is it going to spill into new territory?
It got to the point where I just discovered the International Channel later on and started watching the series in Japanese. The channel had Slayer subtitled, but not DBZ and GT.
Even though I couldn't understand anything they were saying, I did get to hear Tuxedo Mask, Sailor Saturn, and Hawk's Eye playing minor roles!
EDIT - Lunch is also Esmeraude, but I don't remember her having any dialogue in later storylines.
Even though I couldn't understand anything they were saying, I did get to hear Tuxedo Mask, Sailor Saturn, and Hawk's Eye playing minor roles!
EDIT - Lunch is also Esmeraude, but I don't remember her having any dialogue in later storylines.
The rage that would build seeing those blue sparkles across the screen as Raditz's capsule zoomed towards Earth.
Never forget.
1. The Saiyan arc is not the start of Dragonball, it happens about one third into the manga, so if a new Dragonball would start there, isn't that pretty much what you want, skipping the beginning and getting to the good stuff (although I'd argue that early Dragonball is much more fun than the Saiyan stuff and beyond).
2. The newer Dragonball stuff is a continuation of the original story, Sailor Mmon crystal os not, of course they start with the Dark Kingdom
That's a matter of opinion but no matter what, Beryl is the start of the story, this arc introduces the main characters, brings the team together, reveals the backstory, features 90% of the development in Usagi's and Mamoru's love story.
Once the show's running it will be relatively easy to extend it if it's successful, it's not like they'd fire everyone, burn the character designs and start from scratch for the Black Moon arc if it happens.
Yeah the first two arcs in Dragon Ball, Emperor Pilaf Saga and the 21st Budokai Saga, are my favourties. Although I generally like the series until the Cell and Buu arcs.
Sailor Moon 64
In this episode,the characters job to gravity poor Chibiusa is lost in a rainstorm and Usagi goes out to look for her. Here we see the four sisters interact with each other, and I alwys compared to them to my aunts because I had four of those too.
Sailor Moon 64
In this episode,
Serious shop talk, I know they're as good as dead in Crystal but I really liked the wierd gem sisters in R. I'm going to miss the bad guys having redeeming arcs.
Also Gravity strongest there is.
Except for James in WVGCW but that's for another thread.
I generally liked Dragonball from start to finish but the first few arcs will always be the best, my favourites are Pilaf, 21st Budokai and Red Ribbon. The Piccolo stuff was good too but I resent how it introduced the Dragonballs' power to revive people, death becoming meaningless was annoying.
Who says they won't have them? It's still not confirmed how close to the manga the new series will be. Closer to the manga does not mean zero original elements.